The thing is, Monroe claims that it has been there long before he discovered it.  You can't create something that already exists.

I too do not think the Park is a "Monroe creation."  For centuries, there have been writings about a similar place to be found when people die.  Other groups have referred to this place as the "summerland" - a place with unspeakable beauty, tranquility, happiness.

These descriptions antedate RAM by such a long time, I don't think it leaves any doubt.  However, there are some unknowns.  How many beautiful "parks" are there?  Can various spirits of varied levels of love all go to an initial beautiful park, there to be met by loved ones, and then, to eventually migrate off to their own areas (determined by their own ability to love and their own passion - some of who may end up in a hell?) 

Is a park an initial rest stop on this transition leaving earth life, and are there many set up on many levels of the afterlife? 


M

Hi Hawkeye,

Bob Monroe explained F27 to his daughter by saying it was a place where no one could impose their will over another. Kinda neat.

Much love,

Ginny

[Wow, Ginny!  After years of absence, I was wondering if you had died; and now suddenly you're back!  Wonderful!]

In my view, Carl Jung discovered a concept which has great potential to help us probe the depths of mysteries associated with afterlife planes.  "Archetypes" are innate tendencies to organize meaningful experience around certain symbols.  Examples range from the anima and the shadow self to whiteness and the park as a symbol of Paradise-like postmortem conditions. 

(1) The anima is the feminine aspect of the male psyche that initiates men into the mysteries of the unconcious and, therefore, often into spiritual experiences.  It manifests in a man's dreams and fantasies as a female presence at the center of a threatening spiritual encounter.  Jung labels the male aspect of a woman's psyche the "animus."

(2) The "shadow" is the suppresed aspect of our total self that we struggle to deny or marginalize.  The shadow manifests in our dreams and fantasies as a person of the same sex that we find threatening or insane.  But in our dreams it calls us back to a time in our lives when we made poor choices that blocked the natural progress of our true self.  It also manifests in "Freudian slips" of the tongue or in the inappropriate remarks intoxicated people make which they later excuse by claiming: "I'm sorry; I just wasn't myself last night."  The truth is, your true self DID manifest last night, but it was your shadow self.

(3) Here is a Jungian perspective on the whiteness archetype.  Prior to missionary David Livingstone's explorations that opened up the continent of Africa, Europeans were not considered "white" people.  In fact, we have a flesh color, not a white color.  The white-black distinction unleashed the energy of the "whiteness" archetype.  Even in African culture, the white archetype stands for the good, the true, and the beautiful and the black archetype stands for the bad, the sinister, and the false.  These 2 archetypes have evolved through encounters with the dangers and uncertainties of the African night and through growing awareness of the life-giving power and security offered by our sun.  The energy of these archetypes has generated racism in the form of the superiority complex of Europeans and has helped keep African slaves in their place through low self-esteem. 

(4) The park as an archtype of a postmortem Paradise or ideal initial meeting point may have influenced the perceived shape and nature of Focus 27.  The core elements of the standard NDE are each archetypal in a Jungian sense.  The more we grasp the identity and nature of archetypal energy systems, the better we might be able to penetrate the secrets of postmortem planes. 

Don

Hawkeye,

Yep, I'm sure there's a world within the BST populated by many who believe Monroe's adventures are the only truth. If enough people believe in any given mindset, the believing is the energy that subsequently creates. But Bob Monroe was the last person who ever wanted to see any kind of a structured belief system in the physical, dependent on faith alone, be established due to his work. He taught that everyone has to get their own experience, their own proof (if they so desire)...which is exactly what Bruce Moen has carried on with.

One of the things I feel so strongly about is that we as spiritual beings are having a blast with this 'human experience'. We aren't here in the physical because of any kind of sinful or rebellious behavior. We're here because we want to be, because we want to get out of the Earth Life/Human Drama all that we can...because by our very nature we seek to explore, experience and learn...and have fun while doing it. Some don't feel a need to understand why they're here. Some do. Many want the experience of abiding by faith alone. For me I just wanted to find out firsthand who thought it was funny that I had to be Here with all the pain and sorrow life brings (many years ago, I wasn't a very happy duck then, lol ). It's all good.

Much love,

Ginny

Ginny,

I am so happy to see you here again.  Your perspective and the way you describe your experiences makes reading about your activities a big treat for me.  I still remember chatting with you while riding the Ferry from Friday Harbor Island back to the Mainland World.

Guess the Girl Scouts loss is our gain 

Welcome back, Ginny

Bruce

Yes welcome back sis..nice to hear you; talk to you soon..
PUL
R.

PS..still remember the squeaky voice from harbor tapes..lol

My bud, Romain! Sending you an email in a few minutes.

Much love,

Gin

Ginny, so good to have you back!

I know my memory is not so great, and I'm reaching back several years, but didn't you theorize at one point that maybe retrievals do not really involve guiding "stuck" spirits to helpers, but instead are training tools designed to teach us more about the afterlife?

R

Mac...you wouldn't remember me but we met briefly in Faber in the lounge after the completion of a workshop at the MI. That was almost 20+ years ago.

1) At that 'time', you and some buddies were working on a project. 'Going forward' to find certain medical techniques from that 'time' to assist the 'present'. I always wanted to ask: did you encounter an issue/difficulty with parallel possible 'futures'...or 'sideways', whatever clumsy verbiage we are required to use these days on the subject. Maybe the same as 'chaff' thrown up when trying to view a target.

2) I see Canada next to your name. We just moved back down from rural northern Vancouver Island. No more Faber? Haven't kept up at all with VA or how that would impact your present life. How's the heart?

3) Enjoying reading Jon Ronson's book. I especially like the lock picking technique.

The Anjinsan