PS-

Bruce, I see where medical science is beginning to figure out how to translate thoughts into actions, via computers.

Would this breakthrough possibly help in terms of perfecting your afterlife communication device?

Since those in the afterlife communicate via thoughts, some sort of device would be needed to turn those thoughts into voice recognition so that those of us on the earth phone would be able to hear.

I'm not sure, however, how our thoughts would be transmitted via the phone to those in the afterlife.

In any case it looks like there are promising developments that may enable your system to work.

R

Don-

Sorry, I should have posted some background on this subject.  It goes back many years.  Most of the people on the board today would not be aware of it.

I'll try to answer your questions, but I'm sure Bruce will fill in where I'm either wrong or don't know the entire story.

(1) Ed Carter was an engineer friend of Bruce's.  After he died, Bruce stayed in touch with him and was getting technical assistance from Ed as to how to design and build a communication system that would allow us to have conversations with people in the afterlife.

Bruce compared the system to regular telephones that we use every day.  He envisioned that they could be mass produced for approximately $50 and be widely available at stores like Walmart and Radio Shack.

Bruce was very excited at this prospect.  Dead people could call us, and we could call them, just like we would call our neighbor across the street.

As time went on, however, Bruce's main problem was that he was so busy with his workshops and just the everyday need that we all have to pay bills, etc etc. that he just didn't have the time needed to devote to this project.  Therefore, development of the phone system slowed.

So, as a way of freeing himself up from the tasks necessary to earn a living and allow him to devote full time to the phone project, he talked about setting up a company, to be called Nimbus.  Shares of stock would be offered to investors, and the money generated would then allow Bruce the financial freedom to put all of his time, working with Ed (now deceased), in a joint effort to get the phone system up and running.

Bruce made it clear that this was a highly speculative venture, and if successful the investors would reap a fantastic profit.  If not, it was a risk they would need to take.  Bruce made it clear that no guarantees could be made.

The company (Nimbus) never got off the ground.  Bruce can correct me here, but I'm guessing not enough investors were attracted to the venture.

Nevertheless, Bruce vowed to never give up working on the project with Ed. 

From time to time Bruce would update us as to his progress.  He did encounter various difficulties, but with Ed's technical assistance, he thought he could eventually overcome them.

(2)  I think it was Bruce who took the initiative, but not sure.

(3)  I don't know the status of Bruce's relationship with Ed.  Bruce hasn't mentioned anything about it in several years.

I'm sure Bruce will fill us in on this project.  Since it's been a long time since Ed died, maybe other engineers who have passed over can help out in the event Ed has moved on to a higher, inaccessible dimension.

Let's all hope Bruce will give us an optimistic report, since the ability to call our dead friends and loved ones, and for them to call us, would no doubt be the most fantastic invention in the entire history of mankind.

Personally I have to give Bruce a tremendous amount of respect for even attempting to perfect this invention.  Just think, for example, how organized religion would react once we all found out that you don't have to be a Catholic or Muslim or Buddhist to survive death.  The Jehovah Witnesses would have a mass nervous breakdown!

I'll be anxiously awaiting Bruce's reply!  Let's all hope he has good news to share with us.

R

I'd be very interested, but I wonder how the communication would work amongst all planes of the afterlife, since there are different realms from heavens to hells, thought to be related to different thought.

From my point of view consciousness is thought, and I'm not quite sure how to get a mechanical machine to "tune in" to thought.  Clearly our consciousness attaches to our brain/body in the physical.  Any communication device would need to take sounds in the physical world, (raw white noise, etc.) and process them in a way that would be easy for a discarnate entity to manipulate.  This is the recipe for EVP with white noise/tape recorders.  That with intent, the spirit can use the various frequencies in white noise to manipulate sound on earth and come out with a "voice."

The two way theory of all this intrigues me as well.  Some say that it is much easier for a discarnate spirit to hear our words and thoughts with ease than vice versa.  So would a two way device even be needed?  We may be able to simply ask a question in our minds and out of thin air, and then have the disembodied consciousness manipulate the sound on our white noise machine to give an answer. 

I do think any device would work best for the recently deceased, and that deception and interaction with fakers might be an issue to contend with too.



Matthew

Perhaps the other side will set things up so only spirits within a certain realm can use the device that exists on the other side. If something such as a library can be set up, then perhaps a communications site can be set up. I wouldn't underestimate what beings at higher levels can control.

Did Satan really visit God in heaven as the book of Job suggests, or was that story only symbolic?

Matthew-

Yes there may be heavenly rules covering communication, but on the other hand Bruce says that there is a whole team in the afterlife helping on the phone project.

You would think that the team would be aware of any such rules.

R

Perhaps the reason it hasn't come into PE is the difference between "need" and "want". I see no "need" of any such device. Wouldnt direct communication open the possibility for those living a PE lifetime to learn of the reason they are re-experiencing the phyical and in so doing perhaps lessening the lession? Why the need for phyical communication? To say "I love you"? Or "I miss you"? Couldn't the continued communication and attachment of emotion that could be the effect of such a device perhaps cause those already crossed over to become attached more firmly to the phyical and in so reduce the possibility for them moving on further spiritually? And I was wondering if the proposed device would be for contact with just Bob's "Park" or any area of the afterlife? I personally just don't see the need. We already have the ability to make contact..why must we bring the contact we make back into the phyical. Using our ears and a phone like object? Why would anyone over "there" want to use a phone? Perhaps a non phyical energy that deciphers NVC is more in-line with what is needed.      

I saw an interesting show on the TV night or two ago.They were using a devise that scanned radio frequencies and they believed it to assist in contact with those who had died. Could this be others working on a Nimbus communication devise also?