DocM
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I think it is also interesting that Bruce Moen has repeatedly stated that he rarely has had classic OOB experiences. His method, the imagination technique is best described as shifting the focus of concsciousness and then making observations. I have not heard Bruce, on this board talk about or concentrate on classic OOB astral travel.
Sometimes, there is an assumption that because Bruce was associated with TMI and Monroe that they had the same experiences. To me, Bruce's genius and techniques lie in the fact that unlike his predecessors, he does not require that you leave your body to travel in a different vehicle.
Think about that. Monroe had OOB experiences without trying to (this started his journeys). Robert Bruce's methods center around getting out of your body. However, Bruce Moen realizes that consciousness is independent of the vehicle. Thus traveling OOB is no more valid than phasing or shifting awareness (his method). This focus on various astral bodies is, to me another belief system, albeit an exciting one.
In our most basic state, we are points of pure perception, independent of any body (astral or physical). If we choose to explore this by creating various vehicles to travel in - so be it - whatever floats your boat. Bruce's method is by far easier, because he focuses on consciousness itself, not the so called vehicle. But remember, a key factor in spiritual growth is love. And vehicles have nothing to do with love. So I advocate exploration with that in mind. Otherwise, you miss the forest for the trees.
Matthew
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