Regarding fear and projecting

In my experience Calypso, the vast majority of people could not hurt themselves by attempting to go out of body or staying out of body too long.  In fact most sources feel that we do this unconsciously when we dream all the time.

Those who have reported back from NDEs and OOBEs sometimes see a cord connecting us to our bodies.  By most reports, as long as we are alive, this cord is unbreakable, and infinitely long.  Thus, the idea that we will float away and not come back is hogwash.  The bonding of you to your physical form is so strong, that it would be laughable to imagine otherwise.  Think about it.  Your soul/mind created and grew your physical body all these years, from the tiniest phase. 

Anyway, the minor warnings that exist have to do with possession and malevolent spirits.  Most cases have involved Ouija board communications, and require us to "invite" the unwanted guess in to use our bodies.  This is what a ouija board does, and why its use is highly discouraged by most mystics. 

When someone projects, setting good intention for the highest good, is usually enough.  Some say a prayer of protection, though again, I think this is unnecessary for 99.999% of the time.

You will find others who disagree with me.  Some see evil, everywhere and fancy themselves spiritual warriors fighting off dark side.  I remember one description where Robert Bruce from Astral Pulse, described how he interceded in a possession and had invited a spirit to inhabit him instead (this is as per my recall of one of Don's posts).  At one point, he had blackouts, and found himself standing by his child's bed with either an axe or some other awful object (I can't remember), and had to work hard to expunge this unwelcome guest from controlling him.  The key thing is not to make an invitation via Ouija board or otherwise in the first place.

But Robert writes books on psychic defense and finds intrusions a lot more often than most of us.  I have yet to see one case of an intrusion like this or hear about it in any of my acquaintences, friends or patients.  So, most people will not encounter these events - ever. 

I believe that being alive in the physical world means that you have thousands of times more control over your body than any immaterial spirit ever could.  This is why the billions of people who project every night during sleep don't encounter problems and wake up the next day.  It is why you should not worry about it.

Some people as I say set intentions for a voyage for the best possible outcome with safety in mind before meditating or, state quite casually while they are relaxing that they will enjoy the experience and be completely safe and protected.  This minor prayer with a definite stating of intent may give a person that tiny bit of extra protection, if there are any concerns.

I don't know what has been said, but the thing about Ouija boards is that you have to let a spirit have access to your subconscious mind in order for the board to work.

How do you know who you are giving control to?

I doubt that a light being would choose to make contact in such a way.

One night I had an OBE where I flew over a lower realm and felt completely safe, because I knew that the spirits within could leave only if they chose to move on to the light.

Immediately after the OBE ended the thought came into my mind, "sometimes they find their way out when people use ouija boards." I figure there are other ways.


Beau wrote on Nov 11^th, 2009 at 5:23pm:

Albert I promise i love ya, but that doesn't fly with me. Who could possibly be in control if not you. If not us, who? And if you say Jeez us you know what I'll say to that.

Jesus was a person of god (g.o.d.) = Jodie for me.
Hey Zeus. Jesu. Whatever, it's just a name and that is an enemy to anyone who doesn't know what's going on. We are one Clan. ouiRone.

E's everything and it can be any letter you like cause it's just a meta for. There is only on or om. There is no off. O = 1, so zero is an illusion. You can't not be in control. The only demons are yours. I can't make it any simpler. We are all persons of Jodie. The O in the middle is the only thing matters. It goes round and round just like me n u.

Yours,
Bo/beau

Hi Gang: Here is Roberts answer as to why a novice does best to take short exit and reentry procedures:

<<Once you exit, your physical body mind begins falling into deeper and deeper levels of sleep. The deeper the sleep the more difficult it is for reintegration to occur.

For obe to happen, the body mind must be asleep or falling asleep. For reintegration to happen, the body mind must be awakening.

In deep sleep, the returning projected double cannot rouse its physical counterpart. Memories of the obe are generally lost.

robert>>

Vicky wrote on Nov 12^th, 2009 at 12:19pm:


Hi Vicky: My job is to do everything I can to get back to my disk... to prepare for escape velocity... I finally picked up the signal and am working hard to follow its dictates... I am one of Curiousity's probes who is ready to return to its origins. How many of us there are out there I don't know... but I am on board for the final exit.

I will answer Vicky's question, too, for whatever it might add to the thread. 

..."do you have your own goals and intents in mind as far as wanting to learn the OBE?"

To experience reality with just my consciousness, and not my body, because if that can happen for me, I will have proved to myself from actual experience that my consciousness might survive the death of my body.  That's my first goal.  Just a little goal!