A letter to an atheist by Alan McDougall

Is there a reason for living that goes beyond that of our earthly mortal life on earth? I say there is, how you can be so sure that there beyond life. Why not just try to consider that there just might be a god.

Life after death is unfortunately something neither I nor someone else can ever prove to, I, however, strongly believe we continue to exist in some form or other in dimensions of purpose, reason, beauty and that our consciousness continues to exist eternally after death. Otherwise our earthly fleeting life is nothing but a cruel joke of nature

Have you ever thought that to be an absolute atheist takes more faith and is more difficult to rationalize than one like me who believes there is a creator? How could nothing evolve from nothing and become everything?

This logic demands that dark nothing morphed into everything, nothing created energy time matter and finally life out of inanimate energy. I see this as a ridiculous assumption; I am left to believe that all existence including mysterious life evolved without reason or purpose. Do you really believe this as a fact?

Let us consider, what life is, how could the unimaginable almost infinitely complex molecule DNA of life came into existence so quickly in relation to cosmological time. Life existed on the primordial earth just a moment after its creation, again in cosmological time?

The universe is unimaginable complex and sustains itself by exact precise fundamental constants, if this harmony differed in the infinitesimal fraction we would simply not exist; indeed the earth itself would not exist.

A billion trillion googolplex monkeys typing for eternity would not produce even one of Shakespeare sonnets. Another analogy, if we took a billion airplanes, filled them with water, concrete and bricks and dumped the whole continuously on the earth for a billion years, would it magically and randomly form the beautiful Taj Mahal or the Sydney Opera house?

But you insist I must accept the beautiful universe a of unimaginable precision came into existence this illogical way

When life needs to evolve due to changing circumstances, does it tell itself to alter its own DNA for the new conditions or could there be a watch maker resetting the watch

I see god adjusting the DNA overlooking his own creation if you like

Our breathtaking beautiful is expanding and anything that expands must have a beginning. Can you prove there is no god of course you can’t, can I of course I can’t, but at least I can offer circumstantial evidence...

Atheism is a faith belief system just like anything that requires belief without evidence.

As an amateur astronomer leaves me with an unshakable belief that am awesome intellect created the universe and everything else

Look out the sparking water that quenches your thirst, the fruit that feeds you, and invigorated your body. There is beauty everywhere and you must search for real ugliness. Go outside on a moonless night and reflect on the wonder of the cosmos that sparkles above you. the great snow capped mountains and streams, the blue sky and the rise of the sun at dawn and its golden glow as it sets. In the early morning go and listen to the sounds of nature, birds chirping like tiny electrons in the mind of god. The wind that you breathe the precious nourishment supplied by mother earth.

Then explain to me how chance can bring this all about. To me there is a wonderful creative behind all this glory if only we would look at it.

Like all things the universe has a beginning and this demands a creator, for nothing can exist with a prime cause. The universe will end but for that we will just have to wait

Even atheistic scientists say our universe is precise, ordered with beautiful mathematical constants. One great astronomer said the universe was less like a great well oiled machine and more like a beautiful ongoing thought

I believe in God, what you believe is your right but to me a godless creation is bleak and cold

What do you people believe, No god or God??????????????????????????????

Atheism is, of course a belief system.  A belief that there is no God, or deities leads many atheists to believe that there is nothing but the physical world.  Afterlife exploration has shown that there is an atheist realm of "soul statues."  People who believe so completely that there is no God, and no heaven/afterlife, that they believe death is nonexistence.

Thus, when these atheists die, they appear as inanimate statues.  Because their lack of belief is a belief system.  They believe that after the physical world there is nothing, or that death is a "sleep."  They appear motionless and lifeless in the spiritual realms.  They stay that way, by their own misguided will power and beliefs for centuries/eons.   

As per your belief it is done unto you.

Matthew

Supermodel,

Most atheists specifically do not believe in God, not just deities in general.  Since afterlife belief usually implies an immortal soul, and since many afterlife explorers have confirmed that there is a divinity (albeit in a way many of us cannot understand while incarnate), I am not sure how you became an atheist who believes in the afterlife - it certainly would be interesting to hear your beliefs.

For many atheists, the lack of belief in God, overall leads to a belief in science and man in the physical world.  This is why, afterlife explorers (including Bruce Moen),  have encountered atheists in these lifeless soul statues - since they believed that death was non-existence.

From what I have seen, as well as others on this site, it appears that the driving force of the universe, heaven and earth, is love.  Many, even non-religious people have found that God is the source of this love.  Our own post-mortem fate may, to a large extent be based on how loving we have become, and our beliefs. 

I would say, keep an open mind.  If you believe in love and the afterlife, you may be very different than most atheists in a number of fundamental ways.

Matthew

Well, if you do not believe in deities, then you BELIEVE that there are no deities.  If you don't believe in something, it can also be said that you BELIEVE in the nonexistence of that thing.  The belief in the nonexistence of deities may be one belief in a pool of other beliefs regarding the afterlife, rather than it being an entire belief system in itself- but a belief it is.

If absence of belief is belief
then not collecting stamps is a hobby,
and not playing tennis is a sport....

That's the best way I can describe it...but no atheism is not a belief...it is not a belief system.

It is the ABSENCE of a belief

DocM wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2009 at 11:01pm:


Matthew now that is an interested observation, we go where we insist to go, so those that love the idea of hell just might put themselves there

Alan

Ok.

Go tell an atheist that....


"If the believer responds that the atheist is expressing belief, namely belief that all existents necessarily furnish evidence of their existence, we might ask him whether he believes in dragons or Santa Claus. The answer is almost certain to be no. On what grounds does the religious believer deny the existence of dragons? If absence of evidence allows the existence of God why does it not also allow the existence of dragons, fairies at the bottom of the garden, the Cheshire Cat, Santa Claus and all other entities dreamed up by poets, novelists, science fiction writers and so on?"


"The average theologian (there are exceptions, of course) uses "atheist" to mean a person who denies the existence of a God. Even an atheist would agree that some atheists (a small minority) would fit this definition. However, most atheists would stongly dispute the adequacy of this definition. Rather, they would hold that an atheist is a person without a belief in God. The distiniction is small but important. Denying something means that you have knowledge of what it is that you are being asked to affirm, but that you have rejected that particular concept. To be without a belief in God merely means that the term "god" has no importance, or possibly no meaning, to you. Belief in God is not a factor in your life. Surely this is quite different from denying the existence of God. Atheism is not a belief as such. It is the lack of belief. "

Is "atheist" a bad word around here?

NOTE: I quoted some atheists here because this is the response you will get if you tell an atheist that atheism is a belief. It is not. It is lack of belief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGT25Oj-6rc&feature=related

A cute little video explaining it...