Lots of speculation here. All you have to do is go to the hall of records and talk to the cw's (consciousness workers) in the planning center and the other Moen areas in focus 27... why not get the answers from the horses mouth.

I think reincarnation exists merely because our supersouls needs as much experience as possible in order to learn as much as possible, and I believe we do have choices but we decide whether or not to assertively make them, or to just 'drift with the tide' so to speak.

Since in the spiritual there is no time, all incarnations are happening in an eternal simultaneous 'now', and it makes more sense to look at it as 'multi-incarnations' rather than reincarnations, since our supersoul can have many incarnations of itself in the same time line as well as the past and the future. That's why we have 'soulmates' and 'soulgroups' I assume. I think 'past life memories' come from our other probes that are the most influential to the lessons needed to be learned in this life.

I think our original poster is very bitter, biased, and closed minded about the idea of reincarnation and karma based on misinformation.

I don't believe that anything is 'inevitable' and we are doomed to certain experiences. If we are made of the love of God, so to speak, then we always have a choice, we just have to become aware of that.

The idea that we, as individual points of perception, may reincarnate as a shrub or piece of sea weed, strikes me as a bit odd.  Even in reincarnationist circles I have heard tales that this rarely happens. 

If we are mistaken in thinking of ourselves as separate from God and the universe, then what exactly is reincarnating?  And why? 

Could a person reincarnate out of love for other earthly souls (loved ones, family members) in order to guide them, help them?  Possibly.  I have often thought that I have such a relationship with my seven-year-old son - that I would have willingly been born to be here for him. 

However, the idea that we, in large numbers reincarnate out of compassion to guide the rest of humanity out of the earth life system doesn't hold much water.  Why not help them when they cross over?  Meet them, guide them toward love, and take them to a rehab center in focus 27 (and then beyond)? 

Matthew

Alan

Do YOU Alan reincarnate or does your YOU disc reincarnate?

But, assuming you do have a disc or oversoul or whatever, do you have acces to all the memories of the disc?

I don't think you can treat YOU Alan (ie the individual) as a concrete thing, although in C1 that is exactly what we do. We assume it is fixed , Is it?

Here's another point:
Perspective.
When we are here in C1, we tend to view and recall events from one perspective. But when I hear stories of life reviews, I hear that the individual experiences the event from the perspectives of all parties involved. From a 360 degree perspective. How can that happen?

"And how can I improve on my mistakes in a past life if I have no recall about it in this present life??"

Doesn't this assume that things are ordered a particular way? A way that makes sense in C1 but may not hold in the greater perspective of multiple layers of conciousness?

I think I have unkowingly struggled with this myself for many years because I expect to be able to create a model of the world based on words, which start in C1. Events will present themselves and I will think I am acting logically and of course maturely (!) but nothing resolves. But sometimes when I let go it resolves in an unexpected way. (not the real big problems but sometimes the intermediate ones). Perhaps that is my oversoul stepping in and finding a new way to approach it. It's not something I seem to do either with logic or with visualization (like in The Secret .)

To improve on your mistakes in a past life you need to know what the goal of being here is, and there doesn't seem to be great agreement on what that is. Perhaps that is because we try to frame the goal in language, which is a product (subset) of C1, but the answer is only found on some meta level or in some meta language. (or meta conciousness).

Regarding your question about the person you were in a past life being dead....well sometimes I feel the person I was 5 or 10 years ago is dead. So what does that mean? Besides, some mystics sometimes say the person I was 5 seconds ago is "dead".

Of course, then you have to ask "what is memory?" and I don't know the answer to that.

OK maybe we could start there. What IS memory? It seems so self-evident that we don't often stop to pick it apart. And I can usually distinguish memories of events from memories of, say, dreams, but I don't know what I amn doing. So I think memory is a slippery slope anyway.

Hi all: Here is another angle on the reincarnation issue... time is not consecutive... depending on what the oversoul needs, it will send its soul members into any number these on going life time lines... those of you who know about the simultaneous incarnations of complex oversoul pods or disks will understand what I am talking about... those who don't need to read Bruce Moen's quadrilogy. 

It is a tricky subject, the whole realm of reincarnation really. It is pretty hard to think outside the box on this and without that ability it is kind of waste of thought to speculate, but it seems to me that if time is as yet undefined outside of C1, then how could one draw any conclusion that seems completely based on time. On one hand it seems to me that Alan's evidence to nullify reincarnation is weak, but not really any weaker than the arguments for it. If we are just the fraction of our Self then I am quite sure the small we does not make the decision to reincarnate. We are the player/character but the actor/inspiration is the whole which we can only find in certain sweet moments of this life. If the mystery were so easy to unravel as basing it on "inside the box" thinking even science would have figured it out by now.

Vagabound

Why would the oversoul feel it's experience as an individual incarnation was not wholey their own, or that something was missing from the experience?  The oversoul IS the incarnation.  They are one.  The totality of the oversoul's consciousness cannot operate in the physical dimension alone- it is a multidimensional being operating in many modes of reality simultaneously.  That does not negate or lessen the reality or importance of its experiences in any of these multiple realities- they are all aspects of its total experience.  A less complex way to look at it is that the oversoul is multitasking, and its physical incarnations are simply one of its many tasks.

Seraphis1

Not sure why you asked, or why you wanted me to know you are open to other ideas, but..

I read a couple of Moen's books.  I really didn't get much out of them.. I learned a few new things, but nothing groundbreaking. 

My beliefs about the oversoul come from a mixture of the work of Monroe, Jane Roberts/Seth, Bashar, Robert Bruce, and of course my own personal experience with my HS.