Hi,

reading Alan's 'Creation' essay on this board reminded of the first time I read 'Conversations With God' by Neale Donald Walsch (subject matter if not style) .I was wondering what other people had read which had inspired them in this area (apart from Bruce's books of course !).



Dave

Conversations with God, Book One literally changed my life when I realized I was having the God experience all the time I was looking so hard for it. Sort of the same with the out of body thing-- once I "learned" how to do it at Monroe and at Bruce's workshops, I realized I had been having them all along.

I have also very much enjoyed Drunvalo Melchizedek's "Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life" books, and "Living in the Heart."

And, at the risk of provoking the usual bru-ha-ha, I am a student of "A Course In Miracles" and have been for many years now.

I have a friend who actually brags that he has NEVER finished a book. I cannot imagine  being proud of it. I often am reading several at any time, and also listen to recorded books (Audible.com) while driving.

Thomas

Numerous near death experiences, the gospels,  and portions of Robert Monroe's Ultimate Journey. I also found Howard Storm's youtube videos inspirational.

I can't say I feel the same about Conversations with God (?) and ACIM. I especially believe this is so when it comes to ACIM. Numerous things have told me it is a course that has been set up so it will deceive people if they allow it to do so. This fact doesn't go away, simply because there are people who won't take the time to discriminate it. People defend all kinds of things.

You know how there are skeptics who won't consider positive evidence, such people only hear what they want to hear? There are also skeptics who won't consider what some people have to say about ACIM, they only hear what they want to hear, and then share their confusion with other people.

Why would somebody want to be involved with a course that fraudulently claims to come from Christ, when they can receive guidance from Christ himself?

No I'm not a fundamentalist who is opposed to anything outside of the Bible. Please notice that I mentioned NDEs and Robert Monroe's book. However, fortunately, I took the time to find out what ACIM is about, rather being taken in by repetitive pithy statements.

I believe what's important is that regardless of what source we read, we should make certain it assists us rather than define us.

If I sound a  bit blunt, all I can say is that I can't tell you how upsetting I find it that people try to push ACIM on other people, when they haven't made a serious effort to discriminate it. A day will come when they will find that they misled people, no matter how unwilling they are to admit it today. Everything we do either positive or negative, will eventually be revealed to us.

Helen Schuchman would probably tell me thank you. Regarding the being who whispered the words into her ear, I don't know what it would say. I can't say I care.


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I haven't read ACIM, partly because nothing I've read about it has inspired me to pick it up.  However, I do believe that each of us, if we are open to it, encounters the right material when we need it.  And it may not have been right at another time and won't be right for others.  Since my "one thing led to another" encounter with the Monroe and Moen books (actually, a re-encounter with Monroe since I read his first book in the '70s), I feel this is the right material and information for me now.  Some years ago, probably I would have passed it by.

ACIM is channeled material falsely attributed to Jesus Christ's dication through atheist-psychologist Helen Schucman.  The contradictions between ACIM and the real Jesus are widely reported and too obvious too mention.  Only the biblically illiterate are gullible enough to believe this this drivel is really channeled by Jesus. 

Helen Schucman's channeling soon led to what her friend Dr. Benedict Groeschel describes as "the blackest psychotic depression I have ever seen."  Groeschel should know: he was so close to Helen that he was asked to offer her funeral eulogy.  He usually disparages alleged cases of demonic possession, but considers it a good possibility that the psychotic depression that led to Schucman's death was demonic.  Even Schucman herself later blasphemed against ACIM in the foulest language.   

Only the hopelessly naive would uncritically accept anyone's claim that their books are based on dictated words from God.  Neale Donald Walsch is now discredited by a provable charge of plagiarism of the work of Candy Chand.  Even more damning is Walsch's claim that he "vividly remembered" the plaigiarized story in question.   Of course, factual errors in his books also discredit his claim that God is his source.  Those who claim that they "find value" in his books should ask themselves iif it is wise to eat fruit from a Poison Tree and soul contemplate the real Jesus' criteria for detecting spiritual counterfeits, one of which reads "By their fruits you shall know tham."

Don   

Thank you, Alan,

I knew he was special but couldn't recall how/why.

Are these current publications from some 'lost' books of his, Thomas or Alan?

Bets