I was interested in Goobygirl's remarks (in the Faraday Cage thread) about protective mantras.  I also use mantras, but it seems they do not always work for everyone - for example, i told my small granddaughter how to "banish" entities she felt were taunting her in dreams/the astral, & she said they laughed at her & threw her (spirit body) across the room. . . it may have to do with prior initiation.  However, I have reservations about giving oneself over to any one Path; I have no wish to become a denizen of one of the Belief System territories!

BTW I recently read something on a site called "Desteni" (sic) where one of the pychics claim to have had contact with Robert Monroe since his discarnating;  she said he had little recollection of his past physical life & no interest in it.  Has anyone else , (someone who perhaps had close ties) tried to contact him? I wouldn't feel right contacting someone I was not close to, myself.

Does this communication at the link below resonate with anyone as being from  Robert Monroe?

EDITE: TO PROVIDE A LINK:http://desteni.co.za/Osho/robertmonroe1.htm

Namaste All!

Regarding the linked text, it doesn't even remotely resemble what I know of RAM (his books, a biography, a lot of audio in the HemiSync tapes, videos). I found it sounds like this "channeled-entity-tone" which I find is common with this kind of scripts, this sort of grandness, the lengthy style, the repetitions. After all, it's said there that this isn't at all anymore the RAM as known on earth. I've had some mind-journeys where I met someone who I thought was RAM (but of course I can't be sure, and I don't make a big deal of it). This person was very different from the impression I got from that text.

Spooky

...yes, but now they can state "Everyone we channel says the same, so it must be true"  .

Spooky

There is a lot of talking on that site but they aren't really saying very much, not that I can find there. The language is confusing.

Regarding mantras, to me a mantra is a 'concentrated' prayer, and I have seen such work in 'C1' as our earth life is sometimes called here. I don't know why it can work, but it does. People did not 'pray' for rain for year after thousands of years because prayer does not work. So, to me, a mantra is a prayer, and carries the power  that prayers carry. Plus, the repeating nature of a mantra, the tone of the voice carrying it, all have an effect.

Nevertheless, in the 'afterlife' realms, or in nighttime dreams, or wherever you may find yourslf, I think it is eventually necessary to carry this power with you and to direct it with your mind alone. I think this is true because events happen so fast here/there. At times, events certainly 'happen' too fast for a 'prayer' here, or a mantra.

Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that one must somehow fully merge all these teachings into your own consciousness to such an extent that they carry you forward in their invisible arms.

I read that link the other day, and I didn't like the feeling I got from it at all.

I didn't feel it was Monroe at all. It felt too bitter, especially to be from his I-there or cluster.

Besides, the independent indentity of Robert Monroe must still exist within the higher self; your identity never just gets 'swallowed' up into your super soul! It makes no sense!

So, I don't think that was him. Probably some lower entity, like kirolak mentioned.

That's my perspective!!


love and light,

Ally   

I believe there is a .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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00000001% chance that the Desteni site is a valid source of information.

Below are some of the people the site claims to channel:

Bruce Lee, Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe,  Robert Monroe, Osho, Jesus, Mother Teresa, Buddha, Edgar Cayce, Hitler, Swami Muktananda, Paramahansa Yogananda, Heat Ledger, and JonBenet Ramsey.

Give me a break. Just another sign that there are people out there who want to take advantage of spiritual people with their nonsense.

I believe it is very disrespectful to claim that you are channeling information from a deceased person when you aren't. Is nothing sacred?

I just became aware of one of my past lives, and I was a  bum, drunk and peddler.

Among Buddhists, as I understand it, a distinction is made between reincarnation and rebirth.  The Dalai Lama is a reincarnation going back to all the other Dalai Lamas, for example.  Those of us who are not highly realized or enlightened merely have rebirths.  In that tradition, reincarnation means that same highly realized being comes back in another body to teach, lead others to enlightenment, etc.  Rebirth means you are somewhere less far along the enlightenment path and are reborn to keep working on it, in keeping with the principles of karma among other things.  I'm sure Vajra can explain this much better than I have.

And too much bicycle peddling can lead to a sore bum  and perceived need to drink to excess.   

One mans garbage is another mans treasure....