I can't comment from direct knowledge, but the way of these things in human history seems to be that these definite distinctions that position humanity as fundamentally different to other life forms arises from the same motivation that originally placed the earth at the centre of the universe. i.e. artificial mind made conceptions designed to boost self importance but not necessarily based on fact.

Intuitively speaking cats or other animals seems very little different to humans - other than that their intellectual/conceptual processing capability seems  less, at least in our terms. From observation their motivations seem very similar, except perhaps compared to the very few humans who have transcended the lower drives.

It's not even like intellect seems to amount to very much, more often than not we use it to avoid connecting with reality...

Hi Bets. I was glad to see your question this morning. My cat, Louise, who I have written about on the Board now and then, has a brilliant and easy-to-see energy field. The only other energy field I have seen that is as easy to perceive is that of green plants set against a light colored wall.

But Louise's energy field is easy to see any time of day. I don't know if I can see it at night!! Never tried. Can't see my own energy field at night either, come to think of it. Anyway, I posted quite a while ago a note about Louise's field.

Her field used to be quite bluish, but as time has gone on, (she is 17 now) it is more clear and whitish. It is easy to see the outline of her little body, the little ears sticking up, the tail, all of it. When I lived in the north of BC, we had moved after being in a smallish cottage, and we had moved into a larger house up north. The day I moved in, she went wild with delight and ran down the front steps, throwing purple, gold and white-light stars out of her Field. The stars were totally visible, brilliant and very large. The purple one was as large as she was, almost. I have never seen that before ever in my life, or since.

In that same house, one day, she was sitting in the middle of the living room looking around. As I watched, I could see my very first ever sight of a "smokestack chakra". Her field was, as usual, visible all around her body. But out of the center of her back a column of light rose very clearly and went right up through the ceiling and disappeared from my view. I presume it was a filament, like in Bruce's drawings of our connection to the discs and then the connection to the life force streaming out behind the disc.
So maybe cats not only have energy fields, but also are connected to discs as well. Maybe this is how everything is connected to the Force that is within and without the Matrix of the universe.
But of course everything has an energy field. If you sit on a kitchen chair and observe another chair across from you, you will see clearly, between the constructed parts of the chair, the shimmering, moving energy field. I like to do that, and stick my hand slowly out and into the opposite chair's field, feeling the slight "buzz" on my hand as I enter its field. We are always connected to everything and are both in and of the Matrix field of light energy. Always plugged in...!!

Well, anyway, those are my thoughts on cat's energy fields, but I can see my dogs field too. If you speak loving words to your pet and watch the field, you will see a flash of white light zip out of the animal's field to you. Sometimes if my dog is in the other room, I have seen a stream of light going between us, connecting us, right around the corner into where he is lying on the "dog's couch" in the next room.Vee

If I may add my tuppence worth - I believe (& it was corroborated by a Guru I used to follow) that there is only CONSCIOUSNESS, not cat/dog/human/whatever-consciousness, but just Consciousness.  Its interaction with matter via the body/container that it inhabits, will shape the point of vision it adopts & its mode of experience; & we each get the type/shape of body-vehicle that best expresses our needs at the time of incarnation. (It seems that here we have all realised that our "appearance" in spirit form is very dependent on our own view of ourselves?)

This makes the greatest sense to me.  I could never accept that human consciousness was in any way "superior" to any other kind, especially not cats, who in my experience have shown themselves to be amazing, psychic beings ( allowing for varying individual abilities, of course)

PS When my little Dachshund was killed 2 years ago, he came & placed his head on the edge of my bed & looked up at me with such love & affection, in a perfect replica of his earthly body.  It was only when he faded that I realized something was wrong. . . . .

Kirolak,
I'm a bit confused about what you've said.

(1) There's only consciousness
(2) There's an interaction of consciousness and matter (organisms).

So, there's not only consciousness, but consciousness and matter?
In my view, matter and it's forms are part of consciousness.

(3) quote: "we each get the type/shape of body-vehicle that best expresses our needs at the time of incarnation."

From this, there's not only consciousness, but apparantly fractions of consciousness ("we each"). So you could speak of human consciousness or cat-consciousness.

Well, I just want to say it's not that simple...

Spooky

spooky2 wrote on Jun 15^th, 2009 at 9:33pm:


Hi, I do see what you're saying, I didn't express it very well - writing fast as I'm at work is my excuse! But I must agree that All that Exists is apparently "made" of the same "substance", whatever we may call it.  I suppose I understood it as the body being like a diving suit for incarnating into the "grosser" level/world, & the self-spirit as the "rider in the vehicle", looking out of the eye apertures etc. . . . .mmm, but that doesn't  solve the problem of WHY a spirit /consciousness should be considered as "different" from the more "solid" consciousness that functions as "body" here, does it?

I DON'T KNOW NOW; my theory does not seem to hold up. While I was also trying to say was that our perspective is coloured by the body that we inhabit,  of-course the question remains:  IS the body's substance fundamentally DIFFERENT from the "thing that says I" ? 

I realize I am only speaking/reacting intuitively, & see that the logic does not hold up. 

How do you see it?

Well, darn, that's the thing about cats, isn't it?? They would all agree with you, moonsnjunes.

With regard to kirolak's last post there, I thought when I read it, there are a couple of different things going on that raise thoughts. One is, the question about what is it all made of.

I could suggest Braden's book The Divine Matrix, which talks about the energy web that is everything, holds everything and that includes spirit since the Matrix appears to be what we call God and is in us, through us, around us and connects everything to everything else. I am on my second read of the book as there is something in there I want to really grasp and didn't quite get the first read around.

As to the question about, is the thing that says "I" the same stuff that the body is made of, I guess it probably is, more or less, as the consciousness of the "I" mind, is the same consciousness that created, creates and keeps the Matrix in place.

And reading Curiosity's Father (Moen) I guess that curiosity that needs us all to be here and keeps us here and IS, in some way, US, is the same consciousness that is the Matrix.Looking for more info and thoughts, here...Vee

Hi Bets. Well, we all have our personal obsessions and mine has always been to find the Secret of the Universe and All That Is. Sometimes you find a book that almost seems to hand the answer to you. Of course, the author is another one obsessed with finding that same thing, but he gets to travel a lot more than I do, specially Tibet. I guess he has maybe got at least some part of the answer. Probably we get the answer once we leave the physical (maybe) but if you have to wait that long, you don't get to claim the winner prize. Vee