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Reply #15 - May 11th, 2009 at 4:10pm
 
That's good to hear Kathy.

I know very little about him. Does he have a TMI background? Is he an afterlife realm explorer?

Regarding people asking him a question and then just accepting it, I figure this can happen to just about any source of information. One of the things I like about Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen is that they don't seem to be in the believe me mode. They would be more inclined to suggest that people find out for themselves.

I do believe it was misleading for Tom Campbell to tell somebody Seth is a light being without explaining why he believes this is true.   Because an explanation wasn't provided, the questioner might assume that Tom Campbell has a way of knowing about Seth that is beyond opinion. When people such as myself stated things against Seth in the past, at least ways we provided explanations, rather than expecting people to simply take our word for it.

Regarding the post you provided, it seems as if he provided an explanation for his way of thinking. Whether or not people agree with it is another matter.

Lights of Love wrote on May 11th, 2009 at 3:32pm:
Actually Albert, TC encourages people to be skeptical, even of what he has to say. He also encourages them to "taste the pudding" and find out for themselves.

His website is dedicated to answering questions about the books he has written so naturally his answers reflect and explain MBT in a more understandable way.

Personally he doesn't say much that I would disagree with. It all depends on how much of the big picture you're able to understand. Few people have progressed far enough for complete understanding. We are all still in kindergarden. Cheesy

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Reply #16 - May 11th, 2009 at 4:30pm
 
Hi

A 'higher level being'  need not be a 'light' to other highly evolved beings.   (That's a compliment to you, Albert.   Wink  )

What is a higher level being really higher than, we might ask? Perhaps to the norm or average ?

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Reply #17 - May 11th, 2009 at 4:37pm
 
Yes to both questions. He helped Bob develop the technology back in the 70's. There's thousands of taped recordings of contact with other entities that was made during various sessions including those with Rosie MacKnight and others. The ones I've listened to were very interesting and informative.

I don't recall TC saying Seth is a "light being" whatever that label means. We are all light beings as far as I'm concerned. We are all "chips off the ol' block" of God consciousness. What I recall is he said the Seth entity does exist and that Jane Roberts misinterpreted a lot of what Seth was trying to communicate to her. I can accept that even though I've never had personal interaction with Seth.

I think most people that have read his books and participate in his forums consider him to be an authority on his theory, since afterall, he is the one that wrote it.

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Reply #18 - May 11th, 2009 at 4:40pm
 
Let's face it Betson, people wouldn't take the time to read a source such as Seth if they didn't believe such a source represents the truth. That being the case, they are liable to give such a source a lot of credit when they develop their own way of thinking, and will be influenced accordingly. 

Why would somebody take the time to read something to a significant extent, if they don't intend to be influenced by it in some way?


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A 'higher level being'  need not be a 'light' to other highly evolved beings.   (That's a compliment to you, Albert.   Wink  )

What is a higher level being really higher than, we might ask? Perhaps to the norm or average ?

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Reply #19 - May 11th, 2009 at 5:01pm
 
Kathy:

Now that you mentioned the explorer sessions, I remember seeing Tom Campbell's name in Far Journeys. Regarding his being an authority on his theory, well that makes sense. I haven't read it, so I don't know what it's about.

Regarding Seth, perhaps I worry too much. If as I believe, for a number of reasons, Jane Roberts made up Seth, then perhaps their is no ill intent behind Seth, it is a matter of what Jane Roberts and her husband Robert Butts came up with.  Much of what they had to say wasn't new.

As I'm sure you know, I believe they mischaracterize Jesus' life in various ways, including when they stated that a drugged and mentally disturbed man was crucified in his place. Going by what my heart and the spiritual messages I received say, Jesus was crucified. For reasons I believe are reasonable, I'm inclined to believe what my own intelligence, heart and messages have told me before I believe Jane Roberts. After wondering about her quite a bit, I received spirit messages that seemed to suggest that Jane made up Seth. There are other reasons for believing this is the case. If Tom Campbell believes Jane Roberts actually channeled Seth, perhaps this shows that he is infallible just like anybody else.

I believe people go too far when they sugggest that a channeler got some things wrong, because he or she misinterpreted what a supposed channel being is saying. In the case of Jane Roberts, supposedly Seth spoke through her body. This being the case, how could mistranslation take place? When Seth supposedly smoked cigarrettes and drank wine while supposedly speaking through Jane's body, was this a mistranslation?  Plus, some of the things channelers tend to say are very specific. For example, Jane Robert's crucifixion hoax "fable" has a lot of details.

If information from a channeled being can be misinterpreted by a channeler to such an extreme where a person goes from being crucified to not being crucified with an illogical explanaton provided, then I don't see how the process of channeling can considered to be reliable.  Sometimes it is important to consider whether an explanation is a matter of convenience, or factual.


Lights of Love wrote on May 11th, 2009 at 4:37pm:
Yes to both questions. He helped Bob develop the technology back in the 70's. There's thousands of taped recordings of contact with other entities that was made during various sessions including those with Rosie MacKnight and others. The ones I've listened to were very interesting and informative.

I don't recall TC saying Seth is a "light being" whatever that label means. We are all light beings as far as I'm concerned. We are all "chips off the ol' block" of God consciousness. What I recall is he said the Seth entity does exist and that Jane Roberts misinterpreted a lot of what Seth was trying to communicate to her. I can accept that even though I've never had personal interaction with Seth.

I think most people that have read his books and participate in his forums consider him to be an authority on his theory, since afterall, he is the one that wrote it.

Kathy

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Reply #20 - May 11th, 2009 at 8:08pm
 
I haven't ever read any of the Seth material. I couldn't say what I might think of it.

Unless I'm judging something for myself I prefer to think everyone is doing the best they can all things considered including what they have to work with... themselves.

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