The true vision of God would be a reflection of yourself. Skirt or no skirt.

Juditha:

Is it possible that your spirit guidance realized that you just won't give up your belief in the devil, so they did the best they could and created an experience that let you know that the devil and his supposed demons can't hurt you as long as you stay commited to higher truth?

If you would stay open to the possibility that satan doesn't actually exist, your guidance might be able to present you with another way of understanding things.

As I've written before, I put some effort into seeing if the Bible actually supports the concept of satan, and it doesn't. There are Biblical scholars that have found the same. I've had a number of spiritual experiences which showed me that satan doesn't exist. Numerous out of body experiencers and near death experiencers have found the same.

I figure that people who have had experiences that "aren't" based upon mythical dogmatism, are more likely to be the people who have found out what is true.

I'm not saying there is no such thing as unfriendly spirits. My experiences and the experiences of other people have found that unfriendly spirits do exist. However,  they don't exist in the manner that satan based mythology describes. Therefore, there isn't some being out there named satan who is so powerful that he can get people to act against their will. People always have the choice. This has been made clear to me in so many ways. Why would Jesus teach about the as you sow so you reap principle, if demons and such have the power to make us do what we don't want to do? Either we have free will, or we don't.

Here's another way to think of it. If supposed satan and his supposed demons have the power to infringe upon the human race's freewill, then why hasn't the entire human race been influenced in a negative way? You would think that supposed satan and his supposed demons would influence everybody to live in a negative way.  The only logical answer is that only people who allow themselves to get influenced get influenced. This being the case, it does't matter what name you assign to unfriendly spirits, because they have limited power. Unfriendly spirits can try to scare you, they can try to influence you, but they can't outshine the light, nor our freewill to choose the light.


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Carl:

During the time period when the New Testament was written, some people believed that God was on their side. When things didn't work out their way, they wondered what's up. Their leaders told them that a supernatural adversary was responsible for their problems. Later this adversary became known as Satan. Within the Bible Satan is spoken of in various ways that contradict each other. Sometimes he works for God, sometimes he works with God's approval, sometimes he works without God's approval.

Sometimes Satan is spoken of in a way that doesn't make sense. For example, according to the Book of Job, God allowed Satan to cause Job to go through a lot of difficulty and for a number of the people that Job knew to be harmed and killed, just so God could prove to Satan that there was one man who feared him (God). Even if God were a being who had the need to prove something to a being such as Satan, it is hard to believe that he would give Satan so much leeway in order to prove his point.  Plus, consider the following points:

1. Satan was able to travel to heaven so he could talk to God. It is hard to imagine how a low vibration being such as Satan could do such a thing. The energetics of the spirit World just don't work this way.

2. God didn't seem to know who Satan was, because he had to ask Satan where he came from. This is hard to believe since God would know everything. Plus, if Satan truly were a fallen angel who was thrown out of heaven, God would most certainly recognize him.

Regarding Lucifer, initially the Book of Isaiah spoke of a fallen king of Babylonia, a physical person. About a thousand years later a man named Jerome made a translational error that caused this fallen king of Babylonia to be spoken of as a fallen angel, Satan. Attached are some articles that explain about this if you're interested.  One of the titles doesn't represent the conclusions the article reaches.

http://www.israelofgod.org/SatanIs14Ez28.htm

http://www.israelofgod.org/lucifer.htm

http://www.lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml



Regarding Jesus using the name Satan, it is important to remember that the words of Jesus were passed on by word of mouth for a number of years before they were written down.  There is also the matter of translational issues. Satan could've initially meant different things. Sometimes when I read how the word "Satan" is used, it seems as if the person who uses it might be speaking of a Roman leader. An example of this is the early words attributed to Jesus in the Book of Revelations.

As I wrote before, I do believe that there are unfriendly spirits, but for the most part these are former human spirits that didn't move on to the light. Because they have separated themselves from their higher selves, they don't have a lot of power. This is one of the reasons they come after people. They are hungry for energy. If a person has weaknesses that aren't balanced out by positive attributes, an unfriendly spirit might be able to take advantage of such a person. They might also send misleading thoughts to a person who will listen to them.

There might be unfriendly aliens. Going by the messages and experiences I've had, they don't have power over us either. One message I received made the point that beings who represent the light have unfriendly aliens under control. Perhaps there are some people who hook up with unfriendly aliens because they choose to do so or they get fooled.

P.S. I'm not a Biblical scholar. What I wrote is based upon what my research and spiritual experiences have revealed to me.

Harvey:

I believe you're underestimating Dude's experiences of divine love.  Such experiences are more life changing than having somebody speak to you in a fundamentalist way.

To be frank, if people had the kind of experience Dude is speaking about, we wouldn't need churches. I believe that Jesus was more interested in helping people have such experiences, than giving them a code to live according to. When you connect to the oneness through love, you're in touch with an inner code.

My spirit guidance includes Christ. He doesn't give me a bunch of rules to follow. He offers me perspectives, and it's up to me to figure out what's right and what's wrong. How are we going to grow if somebody tells us what's right and wrong? We have to learn to figure it out for our self.

I Am Dude wrote on Feb 12^th, 2009 at 5:09pm:


By testimonials and credentials I mean your real name, profession,  photo of yourself, marital state, personal blog about your experiences,
personal biography, educational history, etc. That's in the physical sense....All the real Astral Travelers that appear on the web, write and reveal the above about this. Bruce Moen, Robert Bruce, William Buhlman, Monroe from the TMI, and many others. They have nothing to hide! You hide behind your username, then expect us to believe your fictional afterlife experiences! Harvey. 

My vote is to let dude be and not judge him.  It is true, many Judeo-Christian sources make an encounter with God/the divine seem to be very different than the casual daily or night time OOBE.  For most recorderd events, there is often a sense of divine grace associated with the encounter.  Then there is a sense of awe, (such as Moses being told to take off his sandals because he was on hallowed/holy ground).  

However, we must consider that perhaps encounters with God and the divine appear to happen infrequently because of our preconceptions, blocks and filters to the encounter.  Perhaps, when we are truly ready, and open to the experience, it happens.

Perhaps then, Dude's experience is real.  The young often have the ability to open their minds - they are, afterall closer to the innocence of childhood then hardened older types like myself.  

As to Dude's posting a picture, name, etc. - one can use the argument in the other direction.  That is, that if he had a website or a book to sell or something to profit from he would be telling everyone his name, rank and serial number.  There is very little to be gained for lying anonymously - no?

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

M

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If you look through my Journals of Nonphysical Explorations, you will find most of this information scattered throughout the entries.  Only when it has some relevance to my experiences.  Of course, what this information has to do with the issue at hand is beyond me. 

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You're confusing "real" for "published."  One day I am most certainly going to write a book about my experiences and what I have learned from them.  These explorers experiences are equally valid as mine or anyone elses.  Some of these published explorers experiences of higher level projections are very similar to mine.. are theirs fictional too?  Or are they only fictional until they write a book, and then the become real?