Volu wrote on Jan 31st, 2009 at 11:19am:I go with learning to trust what's within. Discernment. Haven't met anybody who hasn't made mistakes, even with the best of intentions, but that's a part of learning. As for channeled sources, family, friends, the government, ieasu, strangers, dark polarity, light polarity; the external - discerntment, again. If you think jesus is the best thing since breathing, then that's what's right for you. *I don't like religion, that's what's right for me.
*my use of italics and bold
Can't blame you one that one. I don't much like religion either. Neither does Recoverer, or many others who deeply respect Yeshua and believe he lived as a human. One can really like and deeply respect Yeshua without having one iota of liking for religion or Christianity in its religious and dogmatic form.
Notice Bruce Moen, he writes about Yeshua a bit here and there in his books, and the way he writes about him, seems to obviously indicate that Bruce has quite a lot of respect for the guy.
He even capitalizes "He" in reference to him a bunch of times. Is Bruce religious? Is he the type to get stuck in a religious, Christian based hollow heaven?
Bruce is one of the most intune people that i've yet come across and tuned into and gotten guidance about. My dreams have verified for me that his claim and he and Bob Monroe are in the same immediate "Disk" self are true (i saw their faces morphing together and switching back and forth), yet he is vibrationally beyond what Bob reached in his life.
Speaking of Bob, who then is the mysterious "He/She" of Bob's last book?
Bob relates in his 3rd book asking his I/There/Disk/Greater self if he could meet the most mature person living in his pace/time cycle as a human. He was told it might not be what you'd expect.
In comes "He/She" the some 1800 year old human who doesn't need to eat, nor sleep, doesn't age, works many various physical jobs (because "he likes people"), and which Bob hints is known about in some way already. It's clear from the account that his I/There was quite right about him not expecting it, and Bob seemed pretty surprised.
The only historical person that I know who was said to have transcended physical death around that long ago, is Yeshua. Another clue is that Bob says he is not Asiatic in origin, i.e. he says "occidental" in origin. Now some people might think first that it could be some ancient Indian Yogi or Tibetan Monk, yet Bob's info says no.
Besides that previous list (from a previous post) of non religious psychic sources who said that Yeshua was both a physically born personality and a graduate of the highest order, there are the well known and respected intuitive/nonphysical explorers Rudolph Steiner and Emmanuel Swedonburg. Both of whom who tended much more towards science and research than religion before they become Seers/intuitives.
And while the historical evidence seems flimsy to some, there is some nonetheless. Then there are reasons that Josephus for example, didn't write directly of Yeshua--He was a Jew! and didn't like Yeshua or Christianity--he wasn't writing for the Christians but for the Jews. Thus like many historians past and present, he was biased as are all non graduates to varying degrees in various areas.
Then we have the one and only, hotly debated in science circles, and controversial Shroud of Turin, which i've done a lot of study on the research about. Many researchers with science backgrounds, have concluded that whatever it is, it is not a hoax and not made my human hands. So much of it points to a uncanny similarity to Yeshua and circumstances surrounding his torture and crucifixion.
So, we have Rosiland McKnight (and her guidance) long time and very influential in formation of TMI's 1st program--who vouches for Yeshua and his enlightened life, we have Edgar Cayce and his work perhaps one of the most profound psychic works out there, we have various clues and hints by the extremely non religious Monroe, we have Bruce Moen, we have some historical evidence and documentation, we have the Shroud of Turin lending strong suggestions, and we have the personal experiences of people like Albert and I (neither whom are religious) who have gotten numerous guidance messages about the authenticity of Christ and his role both in and out of the Earth.
It's important to note, most of these sources are non religious and had a very universal perspective on spirituality in general, and believed that we ALL can attain the degree of graduation (for there are different grades of graduation) in the Earth as Christ did. Hence, they don't have a religious agenda to push of limiting humanity but exalting Christ for various control purposes.
But who do we have speaking against Christ and saying he was just an astral thoughtform? The likes of David Icke and Val, whom both i've read some of and got the definite vibe and feeling that there a lot of deliberate dis-info in their work (there is plenty of truth too, but more half truths which is the best way to deceive people). The latter source is from what i can gather, once and perhaps still very connected to the U.S. gov.
Then we have other interesting tidbits scattered here and there, like this. Both Bob Monroe and Joe McMoneagle write about a little remote viewing session that Bob had Joe do one time. While i don't vibe with McMoneagle on a deeper level, i do respect his remote viewing skills.
Anyways, Joe didn't know about the target before hand (it was "Jesus"), and interestingly one of his impressions about the target was kind of transcendent human/nonhuman whom he even connected to having reddish hair color.
Many years ago, Edgar Cayce spontaneously gave some info about what Christ looked like in his life as a human. He said his hair was rather reddish in tint. (as a side note, he gave his weight as an extremely similar one to what scientific research on the Turin Shroud has ascertained Shroud dude to have weighed about)
Even more interestingly, i read a NDE wherein a Jewish woman reported meeting Christ and also said likewise that she saw him in very vivid, physical and detailed like appearance that that strangely, he had reddish hair.
Now, i've seen quite a lot of the artistic renditions of Christ that were religiously inspired, and yeah reddish hair is just not that common at all. Most often he has brown hair of some darker shade, and occasionally more blondish--the common stereotypical "Aryan" Jesus. (Cayce's source said he looked neither all that Jewish or Aryan in features).
One would think that if Christ was nothing but an astral thoughtform created by the collective beliefs of religious folks, he and his fictitious appearance in various non religious and psychically gathered experiences would conform to the more commonly accepted and promoted views, particularly in relation to religious art since its the only medium which really seeks to put a look to the character. Really, who besides some Celtic looking, reddish hair folk would think Christ had reddish tinted hair (btw, more specifically Cayce said it was kind of a mix of light brown, with strong reddish and some golden highlights)? For one, hair color that is naturally and strongly reddish tinted, whether very red, a light brown reddish and golden mix, auburn, etc. are the rarest natural hair colors and tints around.
Despite my many years of interest and involvement in nonphysical subjects, experiences, and reality, well my left brain hasn't fallen completely out of my head yet, thank goodness,
otherwise i probably might just believe what i want to believe based on nothing more than inner prejudices, dislike, distasteful experiences with religion or religious folks, and religiously inspired angst. One could even have "experiences" and get nonphysical info based on that. We oft perceive as we believe, unless we attune to the great perception expanding energy/consciousness of PUL--as Bruce often talks about in his work.
He seems to believe and promote that choosing and attuning to PUL is the only way to transcend self, with all its skewed perceptions and beliefs.
But i cannot convince you of anything--no matter how many credible, more verified, non religious, psychic sources i outline or how similar they are on core info relating to Yeshua (that we was born, taught, and reached the ultimate graduation in the flesh) or how much logic i use, can I? I'm not writing just to or for you though.
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