Justin,
"Volu, i wasn't interested in hearing about your opinion on the matter.  I was specifically asking you, as someone who has read this material, what exactly the author says about this topic, and if you don't mind throwing it in, what he also says about the female gender?"

If you're not asking about my opinions, then why are you even asking me? I'm not a mind reader. I cannot possibly explain others' experiences and perspectives. If I were to describe yours, they would be tinted of my views and my understanding. Basic stuff. If you want to know, you can.

"I don't believe its constructive to just belittle people and repeatedly tell them that they are not advanced enough to understand something so fly a kite, even if that may be true at times."

'to just' is a broad generalization. For me the question is equally important as the answer. If you won't say what you're thinking, it suggests an element of fear on your part, even though you might label it as something else.

"If one understands something well enough, they can explain it to a child so that in some way, the child will grasp something of the concept if not the entire paradigm."

What I've read is surprisingly plain and easy to both read and understand considering the topics. Treating adults like children to me means being afraid of telling it like it is, which may feel hurtful for the one spoken to, but can be a potential for growth if a victim gown isn't put on.

"Here is a list of his question and answer section in the 1st book.  The psychological tactics that said author uses, are very similar to various religious institutions, power/attention hungry Gurus, and other dogmatic, cultish modes and "teachers".   It starts off more balanced and mild, but gets more personally belitting."

For me it's clearly stated several times in the material that the author doesn't want to be anyone's leader, and it's something that would have put me off instantly. I'm my own leader. If a student of music comes to me, clearly lacking even the basics, and yet start lecturing me, I'd not be afraid to let the student know exactly where I stand. As for the answers, they're sequential responses to different questions from different individuals.

"Notice then in the below question-answer he says he never tries to convince or debate with anyone about the validity of his material."

What I notice is that the questions leading to the answers aren't there. And I don't see why would anyone need to convince or prove anything to anybody - both the earth, astral and beyond is open for your very own direct experience.

"I will highlight that part for your convenience, as well as some other parts i find particuarly interesting."

I've already read all the questions and answers, and I liked them. If you wonder why anybody thinks the way they do, I suggest you ask them, or find out for yourself.

"Reviewer: But what he fails to grasp is that there are masculine and feminine aspects in both men and women[...]"

Sounds like the reviewer has skipped quite a few pages.

"[...]better to stick to observable facts for the majority of people," TA spitefully responds: "Now, who died and make you spokesman for 'the majority of people'?"

Spiteful? More like a nice one.

There are two key things cult leaders do:

1. They try to get their followers to the point where they always put supposed master's words before their own discrimination. Once you buy into the con that somebody is infallible, this somebody has hooked you in.  How could a person possibly question the validity of something said by a source, when this person believes that such a source is infallible? Sometimes our minds can be like limited computer programs, if we don't watch out, and allow somebody else to be our programmer.

2. Cult leaders try to make it seem as if you are special and above the rest of the World. Once your mind becomes dependent upon such a way of self affirmation, it is hard to let go of the related way of thinking, because on some level of your mind you'll believe that your sense of self worth will be negated. A sense of self worth is something that is important to all of us.

One would think that a true master would understand the above, and find ways of helping a person that doesn't include such traps.

Going by his own words and actions, what approach does Val Valerian take?

Here's another question. How could a person come to the point where she (or he) understands what somebody is saying, if she isn't free to question what was said? Wouldn't she need to have the freedom to question the issue in an unbiased manner?

Rondele:

I believe that some cults are more extreme than other cults.  Many aren't as extreme as the Jim Jone's cult. In a way the less extreme cults are a bigger problem, because it is harder to see what they are about. This is especially true when they associate themselves with supposed genuine teachings that have existed for thousands of years. This cult thing was started a long time ago. A lot of people have wanted to be treated as some kind of God.

There are times when what you wrote applies, but there are also many people who become involved with cults because they are sincere spiritual seakers. I've know a number of people who are former cult members, and they are sincere seekers.

Unfortunately, the internet has made cult access much more available.

rondele wrote on Feb 6^th, 2009 at 5:14pm:

  Tell us exactly what those quotes were about then.  Read and write from your books, and outline them clearly and concisely.  This is what i asked for earlier.  Instead of generalizing and making vague statements, back up your claims since you like the reviewer have read said books.

  Re: squirrels.  One time i was wondering if there are people who have the job of trying to mess with, in various ways, certain people for certain reasons.  These people are connected to groups which essentially want to keep humanity down, and there is all kinds of ways that they go about this.  One is promote various "spiritual teachings", that facilitate peoples separatist, negative, and lack of light aspects/tendencies to grow. 

  Anyways, after feeling this in relation to a poster i knew, i thought perhaps i was being overly paranoid re: such thoughts--i doubted my impressions.   As often, i later got guidance during dream state, about this issue.
  I will not into the whole dream here, but my dream guidance seemed to say that yes there are individuals that work for such groups that go out into various public arenas, etc.  My Greater self used the symbol of them being like 'squirrels" for various reasons--mostly to show that they appear innocent at first, but after a couple of the squirrels did specific things to me in the dream, showed also the destructive nature of squirrels (like for one they cause a lot of damage to houses often).  My Greater self was also trying to say, don't worry about it because ultimately they are like squirrels i.e. pests which can do you no real harm on your path and present level.

  They are trained both psychologically and psychically ala the U.S. govs. mind control and remote viewing type programs, both well documented and not "conspiracy theory".   

Most people won't talk about such stuff out in the open for fear of how others will perceive them (most people have a deep, far reaching need to be liked and accepted by others--i don't for the most part), because to most it sounds pretty fear based and loony.  Yet i have no fear when i think of such groups, etc.  I don't give a flying rats arse how people perceive me, and if i think or feel something, why not say it outloud if my intentions are not to hurt people but to make them aware of the shadow side of humanity. 

   Notice i said you seem to either be deluded re: this work (being of a high source, etc) OR ....    I don't know for sure either, and make no definite claims, either one would seem logical to me, and thus i presented both as possibilities.   Those astrological indications indicate such interactions becoming highlighted in my life presently, particularly via a forum like this (for the 3rd and 11th houses were strongly involved--3rd house representing everyday/typical, personal communication between self and others, and the 11th representing groups and forums like this). 

  My wife has likewise gotten info re: the certain aspects of U.S. or rather world gov., being aware of many things like spiritual issues, the changes, E.T.'s, etc. and she likewise has received info on various occasions that there is much more going on with some of these groups than meets the eye.   Heck, Monroe reports running into a psychic bodyguard around one of the Presidents by accident, and that was before the below became more extreme. 

(the below)   The U.S. gov, and other gov's, have been more or less hijacked by forces of almost unbelievable greed and power hunger.  They operate very strongly within the fear range, and thus have an insatiable need for control and to remain top dogs with the most amount of money and material influence in the World.   They have been interested in, and have sponsored via the U.S. (particularly black ops operations, groups, etc. paid for by us) various programs both here and other places which have the goal of keeping humanity dumbed down and more easily manipulated.   Again, one of their ways is to create from scratch, or foster, various belief systems and "teachers" which mislead people in key ways.

After having studied many examples in history of such mass control, they have realized that full out and out dictatorship just doesn't work very well, because eventually a materially repressed peoples will revolt.   
So, they changed their tactics to become much more subtle.  They use half truths to mislead people, they use religion, cults, channeled spiritual teachings, and anything which they think will influence a largely gullible and non spiritually discriminative population.  So far its been pretty collectively successful, but now they are finding it harder and harder because there is a great awakening that is trying to burst through all the collective b.s., illusions, and shadow aspects of humanity.    This great awakening is happening through the worldwide realization of a basic, Oneness and Unity underlying all beings and phenom. 

  So in keeping with the times, they have to change with the times and present material which talks just enough about such concepts, but often in a polarized way.

  They do this in a very ingenuous way, of injecting plenty of truth into these various belief systems so that on some deeper levels some of the info will resonate with people, but at the same time injecting those limiting beliefs, or in the case of a well known channeled book programming polarization into peoples psyche--i know because i got caught up in that "teaching" for awhile, until i got guidance to drop it.  When actively reading, i noticed myself become more polarized and emphasizing ego, etc.   

  Both my wife and i have had waking moments of perceiving some consciousnesses spying on us (why, i'm not completely sure, but one of her dreams talks about this wherein she reflects with guidance while in the in between state) and we perceived them as large spiders.  In my case very black and in her case, more reddish and black.   During these respective times, we saw these very clearly, and i believe our physical minds translated, or they chose the appearance, of spiders because of the nature of same and what certain aspects represent.

  We've also become aware of the deeper aspects of a remote viewer who is involved with TMI.   Me through a meditation vision at TMI, and my wife through that same dream and inbetween guidance state. 

  Even with all the above experiences, dreams, impressions, etc. i still not completely sure about all the aspects of the above.   It's not something i really give much thought to, and rarely think of it in a deeper way.   
But having been very naive in some other lives strongly connected to my psyche; i will not be so naive and trusting in this life (both of which innately tend to because i tend to concentrate on the good in life and in people).  I've had my legs cut out from under me, in a material sense, too many times from similar groups and scenarios to turn a blind eye to such pervasive and concentrated patches of corruption in humanity.   

  I'm aware that even here, very few would agree with most, or even some of the above, and i'm ok with that and being perceived in a less than flattering light.   Perhaps when they have the experiences that i and my wife have had, they may eventually change their tune.

 You're right Volu, that was a bit demanding of me and thank you for pointing that out.  I will watch/observe more closely those tendencies.  Fellow Capyycorn eh, seems like everyone i've been debating with more lately is a Cappycorn, you, Vince and myself (having Libra Moon i sometimes debate with myself too).  

  I'm sorry if the other (or either) possibility i brought up bothered you in some way.  On reflection, it does seem callous on my part to speak that outloud, but i'm of the opinion that there isn't much difference between speaking and thinking/feeling, except that in the former case at least people have more of a chance to consciously know what you're about.  

 Also, to keep in mind that i tend to be more skeptical of people who, in my perception, support in some way, sources which strike me as disinfo or rather off spiritually in some respects.

  Also your seeming personal concentration on me along with the above, when i did not originally respond to you and your first post at all, but was speaking in general.

The above combo raises various "flags", considering my experiences and guidance, what i know and what they (corrupt, controlling groups) know i know.  One would logically think that if the above is true, then those hired by same, would tend to focus on folks like me.

 To broach another subject and source, i read one of David Ickes books and skimmed others.   With him also i got a sense of quite a bit of truth, but more in the form of half truths and negative concentration.  I.E. typical of "disinfo" type information.    Especially considering what he talks about.

 He talks about similar things as i did in my last long post, except that he gives it such a far out spin, that most people out there, even those interested in similar concepts, are going to think "wow, this guys off his rocker, and so isn't anyone else who believes him or similar info."

  This is purposeful, to ultimately discredit the actual true parts of things he talks about. I.E. the world banking system and families being the real material rulers, and mover and shakers in this world.  Also that unfriendly E.T.'s are involved with Earth (but not in the way that Icke portrays).  Because if you make people think that such a source is so off about some things, they are more apt to believe that its ALL off.  

 It's a kind of propaganda, reverse psychology, and subtle mind/belief control process.   Very ingenious if you really think about it.   And i don't mind being the scapegoat to expose same.  I should perhaps work towards a Phd or something like same, to sound more credible if i wanted to disseminate this kind of info into the mainstream.  But, all in all i'm not too worried about said groups and influences for their time is coming to an end, and major changes are brewing on many levels.    They will be ousted one way or another.   And never again let into positions of power and influence, for people in the future will be able to psychically read one another much better and more clearly in the nearish future and will focus on PUL a lot more, which is already starting to happen with the more spiritually mature folks around.