Heck no, I'm not bothered!  It turned into a very rich thread with all of its twists and turns.

It's always the detours that take us to the most interesting places.

R

 Thanks for letting me know that Rondele.  


  Alan, thank you for the sentiment, and while i understand what you are saying, i also think it can be rude sometimes to so side track a thread which is originally about a very different subject to begin with--especially rude to the person who started that thread.  I try to respect the forum rules and intentions lately, but don't always, and this one of those latter cases.  I got too personal in my debate with O.O.B. Dude, and criticized another's belief system.  

 Technically speaking, that's against the rules here.  I think that most people here are aware that my intentions were overall positive though--even if they disagreed with my behavior or my beliefs in this case, and all in all my temporary negativity was rather mild, balanced, and more impersonal than not.  I certainly did use some self restraint at one point.

 I figured it just was the considerate thing to do, to ask the starter of this thread if he was bothered by such side tracking.  I had a hunch he wasn't, but wanted to be sure since i'm not a complete mind/heart reader.    
I've been on and connected to this forum for a long time, though not as long as some.  Sometime during that time, i went through a very challenging and uncentering period for a bit in my "real life" and in my I-net life and relationships, and temporarily got really negative and personal with a few members here...

I took some time off, came back and decided that I owed it to the group in general, to those specific individuals, and to Bruce to be more respectful, considerate, and constructive in the future.   And i do try, but sometimes my Celtic, Fiery Leo Rising and Mars Jupiter conjunction side, gets the best of me.
 I don't believe you were here during my negative outburst period, but suffice it to say, a lot of people here had a lot of patience and real PUL with me, including Bruce who had every right to permanently ban me.   I tell you all this, to show you where i am coming from.   I'm basically a lovign and conscientious person, but i have a responsibility and duty to this forum i feel.

  Albert told me once that he got a guidance message about me, and his guidance said that i'm someone that could really help Bruce with this forum.   I've wondered about that, because sometimes i feel not that helpful, and have wondered maybe the best way i could help is by leaving.   I dunno.  But thank you much for your kind words and sentiments.

  Thank you Alan. 

  I for one don't hold any of that against you.  I have a strong hunch that much of some of those issues come more from an imbalanced body/vehicle rather than your consciousness, beingness, intentions, motivations, and tendencies of same. 

  You are a bit of a spiritual "genius", who is close to the borderland ie. "super sensitive", and sometimes when you combine that with an imbalanced and unhealthy body, well volatile, erratic, and unrestrained states can be felt and expressed.   

  The Celtic blood/genetics, does innately tend towards the rather energy sensitive in nature, did you not know?

  If you choose to have another physical life (which you don't have to do), you may find yourself focusing more on maintaining physical health from the start and having the experience of a more healthy and vibrant vehicle for expression, and thus will be able to unleash more of your full potential, in a more balanced manner than currently experienced. 

  I hope you do choose to come back, because this World could surely use such help and energies as i see yours potentially being when in a healthier and more balanced body. 

  Pretty please with sugar and strawberries on top    Do not get down, or overly hard on yourself my friend, it's your deeper spiritual intentions that matter, and not always the temporal reactions that we experience or express in this material life with its MANY influences. 

  I feel that some of this just came through a mix of my Greater Self and the One we both highly respect and love.  He is there for you, and always look to Him for help and guidance.

Alan, i bet the planet Uranus, and probably Neptune to some degree as well, is very highlighted in your astro. chart.  

 The physical planets that we see and perceive physically....well are just like Earth in that they have their nonphysical counterpart as different and relative nonphysical dimensions.  
These various and varied dimensions correspond to the very "Afterlife" itself!   (sounded a bit like "V" in V is for Vendetta just then .)

  When our Greater self rolls together another physical life for itself, an aspect of the Whole figuratively steps out of same, and enters from a particular nonphysical dimension (there are 8 main ones, and in the 7 of those main 8, there are ever 7 sub dimensions within same) into the 3rd dimension of physical matter and Earth.  

 Uranus then, corresponds to extremes, psychism, the ultra and unusual on many levels but especially mentally, and tying up loose and challenging ends karmically.  It is both a difficult vibratory level, and yet a very catalytic one if used aright will lead to much spiritual growth for the personality who entered in from same.   Personality's strongly indicated by same, tend towards the manic depressive and super sensitive in nature.

 I know it well, as my just "past life" self came into the Earth directly from the nonphysical dimension that physical Uranus and its relative position in our solar system, represents.   And it is a fairly strong, but more background all in all, energy and vibration in my current life and psyche.  
When a Planet is "Rising", or close to the Ascendant/Rising sign degree in a chart, it is then at its MOST amplified, as amplified/indicated as it can get (and otherwise rather strong and conscious when in or close to the other 3 "Angular points" in a chart).

 This then, the law of attracts, begets, and resonates like between both physical and nonphysical sojourns is what creates the so called "influence" of astrology.  Rather it is not an influence, but an "indication", a quantum map of tendencies, Consciousness involved in physicality, and probabilities if you will.  

 We are not the way we are because of the Planets, Stars, and Signs are in this or that position or sign, but rather the Planets, Stars, and Signs are in their specific positions at birth because of how we have lived using our freewill in our other physical lives and where we "end up" because of that in the nonphysical dimensions.  And that we choose to be born at a specific time in which the outer indications match up to the inner consciousness and energies.

 Our chart, is a static, symbolic picture in space/time of our karmic blueprint/map then.   Astrology causes nothing, in and of itself.  

 It is one of the deepest and most multi-layered studies on Earth today, if studied aright and intuitively.  Most do not study it aright, and think that astrology actually somehow "causes" events, character, etc.  They don't understand the Quantum field nature of it all.  And they don't give enough power to Freewill.

 Edgar Cayce's guidance claims that Yeshua himself, studied it himself for a time in his teenage years, because his teacher, the prophetess and leader of the Essene's at the time, wanted him to have a good grasp of prophecy and cycles of unfoldment beyond his  intuition which was quite sharp even when a young teenager.  He studied it when he first went to Persia, which is where some of the "wise men" who came to his birth, came from originally.   They were astrologers and intuitives, and knew his birth had come about via astro. indications and from inner guidance.   Some said they were led by a "Star" to his exact birth place and then led back to their homes by this seemingly moving "Star".  

  My hunch is that this Star, was really an UFO of some very spiritually developed E.T.'s. who wanted to emphasize the special and transformative nature of this birth.   Christ and these are brothers and Co-Workers in helping to unstick a mostly stuck humanity.