I want your opinnion,what does a spirit body look like? George

george stone wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 5:23pm:


hi George. my mother uses the same form she had around 26 yrs of age. yet when I did a retrieval on her shortly after she died, she was still in her 85 year old appearance. so it looks like we can make form around ourselves, but  I see teachers showing us how to build the form as we want it. a ghost can appear to us here as a see through image, only because we are not in their dimension, where they appear quite solid to themselves.  for instance, in one retrieval, I was instructed to touch the young lady I retrieved.
my vision out there was subdued..like being in a room with only a 25 watt light bulb for the whole room.

so I saw her, she was a spirit appearing as a normal human being. when I touched her, I was amazed that she felt so solid, and with warm flesh also. so they think they are still alive, this produces the form and appearance as if they are still physical.

I think the retrieval was done in the etheric counterpart of physical level, a replica level, like an astral level dimension.

when the girl left with helpers, she was still in her body form, but no longer was stuck in her thoughts of being inside a high school gymnasium. I do not see spirits with my physical eyes.
I know you did.

Ta Thomas and Alysia. Interesting isn't it the way we get demonstrations time and again showing that how we perceive what manifests depends on our mind, and our belief systems.

I guess that makes us co-creators..

If any of the folks I have visited or been visited by are spirits, then most of them look just like themselves here (but better, younger, more vital, I guess, would be how to describe it).

In fact, I have just had dreams for two nights running in which I received a big hug from a spirit who, I believe, was taking two different familiar forms, for two separate nights. Either that, or these folks were visiting me in their sleep (they are living). The scenarios were identical, except the words spoken. They felt like real, clothed people whom I knew.

Generally, that's my experience. However, I have 'felt' spirits in some different forms (or lack thereof) while meditating, and have felt 'communication' around what felt to be some different kinds of beings. Some seem like varying kinds of 'light' beings, possibly, or were perceived that way. I have seen little stars. Sometimes a spirit/spirits are more of a feeling, or can change appearance.

It's hard to confine a description to mere appearance. Sometimes there is a lot of emotion associated with a spirit, like a special, expansive feeling of love generated there. It's memorable, almost leaves a 'taste in your mouth' if that's a way to describe it.

My experiences have been positive, for the most part.

as far as having guidance or guides, I can relate to just  feeling presence around me of  beings or plural on that. like a calming influence in most cases, referring to Blink's post.

and I also relate to Ian's post. the cowboy I see as your little helper, delivering the one liners. I get these one liners often in various dreams or meditations, usually they are something I asked for being delivered, and I don't know what they mean but I write them down in a "message" file on the puter.
sooner or later I figure it out. my guides use humor to get my attention. so I see the cowboy as a humorous figure for Ian to not be so serious. as I am serious to overdo that facet of myself. humor helps.  I think we all agree, appearances are often not what they seem.we have to look beyond appearances of spirit.

mostly I hear better than I see anyway. reading words in a dream is difficult, to remember the words in C1. they get translated so easy into a different, but similar meaning upon waking.

so good to write down messages, but form no instant interpretation on it until meditating on it for about 50,000 years. lol.

thanks for a great thread provoker George..that George, so few words, such an instigator of thought though...I wonder if he knows what he's doing? 

Sounds Spooky like you see a lot more than me.

I see auras with my eyes open, but it helps to squint a little  - the lady who runs the Gateway programmes in Europe caught me sizing up her aura a couple of years ago and figured what I was up to. We had a good laugh, as did the group.

It starts as a shimmering band of almost invisible white light surrounding the person and sometimes physical objects, but can become so intense that it blocks vision.

I often get light effects when meditating eyes open beyond this. Occasionally it's almost like a golden rain, more frequently a sort of ethereal white light that suffuses the view. This can occasionally  intensify so that normal vision starts to be obscured by the light, and to close down into a small central area where I can still see. It's never quite blinked out completely, I've wondered what would happen if it did.

The chakra (?) I described before only happened once while I was being worked on  by a spiritual healer, it was totally surreal in that it was eyes open and what felt like 100% normal consciousness. In that case the room became suffused with a pinkish light, this seems to start to rotate and gathered itself up into what looked like an incandescent pink/violet football sitting at eye level or a bit above about 3ft in front of me. It slowly faded after a few minutes.

Other times it can feel like my awareness has shifted away into something else - there's this connected feeling. Or a feeling of being loved. (focus 15 as I presume it is feels like that to me)

If I get especially into the vibe like say late in a week's retreat then I don't need to meditate to get it and the colours start to emerge and I can detect differences in the type of aura on different people. Some for example expand out quite a long way, others are very tight, shimmery  and compressed.

I can also in this state feel the limit of the energy of the aura with my hands, and as before sometimes develop a mild psyco kinetic ability.  (ability to influence physical stuff like some lights, or divining rods used by others) It becomes possible to remote view too, but the 'picture' tends to be grainy and not sharply defined.

Closing my eyes while meditating produces a silky black backround, with ever stronger light effects very similar to what happens eyes open as I get deeper in.

I'm not good at conventional or 'real seeming' visuals - they do arise at times but I tend often to click out, or else nothing appears. This state seems very subtle, very close to sleep for me, and can involve states of consciousness varying from what feels like being a third party observer, to real life, to playing like a movie but having no control over the plot.

All in all I'm unsure what the various light effects are about. Despite the 'feelgood' effect there's even times when I get cynical and wonder if it's not the result of some subtle but physical brain state triggered by meditation...

Ta Spooky, that's a good test and i don't know what would happen on the aura front. The more generalised background light effects happen even in the dark, but don't 'illuminate' anything. i.e. I can't use the light to see around the room.