R says:
It's funny how you two like ACIM and I don't. It might have some good things to say, but I just can't accept the idea that God has nothing to do with this World. My higher self/spirit guidance has helped me quite a bit, and steared me away from ACIM.
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when you're ready, you will have to learn it's message. in order to graduate off the wheel of reincarnation, you will have to learn to forgive all those who hold a different belief system, or are a different culture or color of skin. you will have to release this world, from your addiction to coming back. That is what ascension means.
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What precisely is non-duality?
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non duality is to be of one mind, rather than to believe everything, you believe only what is your personal experience, not hearsay from others. you are one pointed, you are never in conflict.
It is to believe in God, with all your mind, your heart and your soul, and there is nothing else. this world is not the making of God because God does not believe in death. We do.
God believes in life everlasting.
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I used to be into Advaita Vedanta and Chan Buddhism so I understand what it usually means.
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I do not believe you have a good grasp of Buddhism either.
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But can the creative and awareness aspects of ourselves really be seperate from each other?
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yes. I believe this happened to me. I was creating my personal reality however I was quite unconscious of how I was creating it.
therefore I was unaware of my true self and what I really wanted was simply peace of mind. ACIM helped me realize what I really wanted.
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How are we supposed to learn what the creative part of ourselves is about, if we never figure out what it's about?
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We're here to figure it out by at the beginning of any spiritual path, you admit first that you don't know. then you proceed to get your knowing. just as you are doing now, right?
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Should a kid measure the value of his life by how nursery school goes, or should he or she see what the rest of life is about before concluding that life is a big mistake that God has nothing to do with?
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So are you saying we're in nursery school right now? you would be right, in terms of human spiritual evolvement compared to JC who is not here in a flesh body because he ascended. Someday you will ascend too, if you could see we all the potential to go his path. If he says God did not create war, killing, rape, murder, plundering of the Earth, then I tend to agree, he speaks the truth.
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Here are links about Mkultra
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and why are seeking negative commentaries on ACIM? and who is Mkultra, and why should I listen to this one?
has he ascended yet? is he your brother?
I think you just look for ways to support your own belief system because you do not believe all of us have a spark of divinity in us, even this Mkultra person does. yet I believe I need listen to no one but my own heart, my own higher self, therefore I too am ascending. watch my dust. (I have an ego, but it's dying.) No, God has no invitation into your heart, the way I see it. you do not invite God.
try it some time. if u did invite god, you would know how much you are hurting me right now, and I will have to seek the word of god again to release you. I will pray for a miracle for you. I think god has sent me to you. it is for my strength and your salvation.
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I believe all three of us are interested in serving the light. Yet we have different viewpoints when it comes to ACIM. In the interest of serving the light, perhaps we should get to the bottom of what ACIM is all about.
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ok, but I don't see how YOU can get to the bottom of it, as you haven't read the entire book, nor have you spent an entire year doing the 365 lesson plans. nor have u read the teacher manual because it's too difficult, or you don't have the time. or you have blocks.
but someday, you will have to learn it, mark my words, the truth in it can be found in all great literature. It says you are love.
you say you want to serve the light. the light is love. love is god.
I am love. when I am not loving I am in my ego centered system of duality and contraversy. that is where you take me.
I am here to bring u up. u are here to take me down. that is my ego.
you also have an ego. but our essence is love.
when we get home, we will see the work we did here, we will see what we did for the sake of love, and what was done to injure one another by gossip. the internet is nothing but a big gossip fest.
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but it is very possible that Groeschel can be trusted when he states that Helen was in a negative state of mind during her later years.
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I fail to see the connection between whatever state of mind she was in what that has to do with ACIM, as the book was written through her, not by her. and, since I consider heresay to be gossip from unenlightened beings, I have no reason to put stock into it.
why don't you give as much time to finding positives as you do to finding negatives?
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‘Creating a mythos’ to control people.
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and what do u think traditional Christianity has done if not to control them? ACIM offers to place the power in the hands of the individual to think for themselves, rather than be dictated to by the church. Christ did not establish a religion. it was brotherhood he wished to establish, by his words The father who is in me doeth the works. not himself.
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A Course in Miracles (also referred to as ACIM or "the Course"),[originally published in 1975] is a book considered by its students to be their "spiritual path".
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it is a path, as the message cannot be grasped unless you live it. that's why you cannot just glance at it and say ok I know what it's about. you have to actually meditate on what it says, or you won't find the peace of mind that is offered therein.
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Dr. William Thetford "scribed" the book by means of a process coming from a divine source through a form of channeling which Schucman referred to as "inner dictation". Schucman described the divine source of her channeling as none other than the person of Jesus Christ.
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yes, it is JC himself. it could be no one else. he is/was radical person, but also very loving and never told a lie.
in 75 years all most people will know it was him.
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Search for info on Thetford and MKUltra (the government's well-documented mind-control program) to find more.
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I do not subscribe to any government conspiracys of any sort. I don't think the government knows what they are doing any more than does the man in the street. ACIM simply says we are all insane. speaking of the ego that goes here. if we all are insane, then that means God could not have created an insane planet. but that doesn't mean god deserted us, it means we have self responsibility to get ourselves back home. that's what ACIM says, it's up to us to ask for help from higher source.
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The agenda, according to those interested in this sphere of investigation, is to inflitrate and dilute the American left with New Age ideas and inward-focussed, anti-rational religious movements.
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Religion will still be around for many years, but even religion changes as people change. New ones pop up, you can't stop "new" from replacing "old."
ACIM is the only spot of sanity I have found on this planet.
thank you very much R, I didn't know I had a sermon in me!