"Note the first few chapters are not what I believe about death"


(Some Believe)

Millions go to Purgatory

"The dead in general, according to our teaching, pass immediately to purgatory, which is, as the name indicates, a place of purgation from sin, a place of penances, sorrows, woes, anguish indeed, but not hopeless. The period of confinement here may be centuries or thousands of years, according to the deserts of the individual and the alleviations granted....  

The vast majority of passed over humanity are in purgatory. The billions of the heathen are there; because ignorance does not save, does not qualify for the heavenly condition.

All who enter heaven must previously have been fitted and prepared in a manner impossible to the heathen. Millions of ?? are there.

They could not enter heaven, except through the portals of the the ?? “Church”; neither would God deem them worthy of eternal hell, because their rejection of ??? Was due to the confession of faith under which they were born and environed

how the heck can they speak for God Alan?)

(Others believe)

What about the remainder of mankind? Ah! there is difficulty. Our larger hearts will not consent that all except the saints "must spend an eternity of torture", though this is the logic of our creeds. Our hearts protest, saying that 80% of humanity today is heathen and that fully that proportion of humanity altogether has never heard of God and the terms of salvation.

Can you believe this awful view?” (Alan)

Death, Not Torment, the Penalty (A little better but I still don’t like it)

Note well the mistake made in assuming eternal torment the wages of original sin, when the scriptures explicitly declare that "The wages of sin is death" -- not eternal torment. )

I believe (Alan)

Beings are made of body, mind and spirit.
Of these, spirit is primary,
for it connects us to the source of everything,
the eternal field of consciousness."

And that....
"Each of us is here to discover our true Self...
that essentially we are spiritual beings
who have taken manifestation in physical form...
that we're not human beings that have occasional spiritual experiences
that we're spiritual beings that have occasional human experiences. "...

So, knowing now that we are spirit incarnated on earth to discover our true Self through our physical form, and knowing that Spirit does not die, then we can understand that death is nothing to fear because it is then really only a transition and a 'return to home', then how we live our lives here and how we think about ourselves and our life can be liberating and empowering.

If you were to die tomorrow, can you say that you lived a full life and that you impacted positively on the lives of those around you?  Would there be any regrets of things left unsaid or undone?


Death - the last sleep?

No, it is the final awakening!!!!!.

~ Walter Scott ~


Death is one of two things...

Either it is annihilation, and the dead have no consciousness of anything;

or, as we are told, it is really a change:

a migration of the soul from one place to another.

~ Socrates ~


Death is nothing else but going home to God,
the bond of love will be unbroken for all eternity.

~ Mother Teresa ~


the fear of death follows from the fear of life.
A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.

~ Mark Twain ~


the only thing that burns in hell
is the part of you that won't let go of your life:
your memories, your attachments.
They burn them all away, but they're not punishing you,
they're freeing your soul.
If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on,
you'll see devils tearing your life away.
If you've made your peace,
then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth.

~ Meister Eckhart ~



Some people are so afraid to die
that they never begin to live.

~ Henry Van d**e ~


Only those who have dared to let go
can dare to re-enter.

~ Meister Eckhart ~


When the heart weeps for what it has lost,
the soul laughs for what it has found.

~ Sufi aphorism ~


Of course you don't die.
Nobody dies.
Death doesn't exist.
You only reach a new level of vision,
a new realm of consciousness,
a new unknown world.

~ Henry Miller ~


A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on
sympathy, education, and social ties -
no religious basis is necessary.
Man would indeed be in a poor way
if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.

~ Albert Einstein ~


To fear death
is nothing other than to think oneself wise when one is not.
For it is to think one knows what one does not know.

No one knows whether death may not even turn out to be
the greatest blessings of human beings.
And yet people fear it as if they knew for certain it is the greatest evil.

~ Socrates ~



We are ignorant of the Beyond
because this ignorance is the condition of our own life.
Just as ice cannot know fire except by melting and vanishing.

~ Jules Renard ~


The bitterest tears shed over graves
are for words left unsaid and deeds left undone.

~ Harriet Beecher Stowe ~




If man hasn't discovered something that he will die for,
he isn't fit to live.

~ Martin Luther King ~




I believe there are two sides to the phenomenon known as death,
this side where we live, and the other side where we shall continue to live.

Eternity does not start with death.
We are in eternity now.

~ Norman Vincent Peale ~


Ancient Egyptians believed that upon death
they would be asked two questions
and their answers would determine
whether they could continue their journey in the afterlife.
The first question was, "Did you bring joy?"
The second was, "Did you find joy?"

~ Leo Buscaglia ~


.
Death is like a mirror in which the true meaning of life is reflected.

~ Sogyal Rinpoche ~

As a well spent day brings happy sleep,
so life well used brings happy death.

~ Leonardo DaVinci ~


He who has gone,
so we but cherish his memory, abides with us,
more potent, nay, more present than the living man.

~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ~


Die happily and look forward to taking up a new and better form.
Like the sun, only when you set in the west can you rise in the east.

~ Jelaluddin Rumi ~



The Native American View On Life & Death

"You live on earth only for a few short years
which you call an incarnation,
and then you leave your body as an outworn dress
and go for refreshment to your true home in the spirit."

~ White Eagle ~

Our position on the forum is the one I like best and the most true

What do you think

Take care

Alan