Thanks, but no thanks Alan. I think I will go to my heaven instead of yours.
Joe

Alan:

This is something I've really wondered about. What do we do for all of eternity?  I don't believe bliss is enough, because that might be like experiencing an eternal heroin injection (I've never tried heroin). Such a state might feel good, but it deprives other parts of our being.

How about love and peace? Would love and peace ever become boring? Going by what I've learned, it's all about getting to the point where we live completely according to love.

I used to have meditations where I would experience bliss and then click out for a while. A couple of times after doing this I received messages from my guidance which seemed to state that love is the goal, not a formless bliss state.

I don't tend to click into a bliss state when I meditate now. Instead I feel love, peace and a sense of being connected to something larger than myself.

During my night in heaven experience I experienced a level of happiness that was really wonderful, and the feeling was that things work out quite wonderfully. Therefore, we won't have to worry about things such as, "Is this all there is?"

Consider the possibility that one activity might be looking at beautiful landscapes. I've found that if I'm in a bad state of mind it doesn't matter what I look at. The same is true if I'm in a good state of mind. HOWEVER, if I'm in a good state of mind I'm free to enjoy a beautiful landscape, while in a negative state of mind I'm not. Perhaps this is a clue. When we obtain a high level of being where we feel inwardly complete it isn't a matter having to look outwards for fulfillment, it is a matter of being free to enjoy what we create in our glorious state of oneness, without ever getting trapped in what we create, as we do when we learn how to create.

Also consider what Robert Monroe found out about LOOSH (written about in "Far Journeys"). If you go by the Inspec's version of LOOSH, rather than BB's version, there is a realm where a lot of LOOSH in the form of PUL exists (Hey, love has to be created some way!).  Once you get to the point where you can live according to love, you naturally are attracted to the realm where love LOOSH abounds. This LOOSH causes your energy to also vibrate as love.

Is the LOOSH viewpoint true? Once I asked where love comes from. I was shown a page number but not told which book. I thought a bit about what book to look at, and I thought of Far Journeys. I looked at Far Journeys, and the page number I was shown was the exact same page where Robert Monroe speaks about how high quality LOOSH is created.

I don't mean to suggest that God didn't know how to create love before we got around to doing so, but as parts of God, perhaps LOOSH production is one of the ways in which we join in with the production of love.

I figure love consists of two basic components. One, understanding how to live according to love, the value of doing so; and two, how the energy of love feels.

Have you ever noticed how negative ways of thinking result in negative feeling emotions such as hate, anger and fear; while positive ways of thinking are "rewarded" with positive feelings such as love and peace? Perhaps this is intentional. A part of the divine plan. If you seek a positive way of thinking, you are rewarded accordingly.  

Hi,

I agree with you all that such a heaven is both boring and limiting, -- from the human viewpoint.

But what if the soul's evolution continues, and we become angels, then rising through the divine order of angels (help me out here, Alan) until we become Lucifers -- in charge of a world we have created by our past journeys and explorations ! ?
Would we alter our journey in any way if that were the case ?

Bets

It just occured to me that maybe heaven really is as mortifyingly boring as a lot of folks make it sound...no risks, no danger, no "Am I going to live through this?" rush...

Would explain why people reincarnate after so many say "When I get to heaven I'm never going to leave!  There's only so much peace and quiet a person can take...

Your thinking implies not only that this is the only physical universe we can experience

Um, no, actually I'm thinking exactly the opposite - or rather, that that has no relevance at all...if we re-enter the physical, by definition we'll be re"incarnate".  Doesn't have to be here.

Nor am I quiet getting your second paragraph - since the subject was "endless bliss".  I don't believe there is such a thing (I hope not, anyway), but *if* those who argued such were right, (the whole harps and floating about on clouds sort of thing), *then* that would be an excellent reason to get the heck out of Dodge and reincarnate somewhere as something.  I personally don't think we get stuck in an "endless bliss" sort of dead end, but given that that was the question... 

Sorry Cricket.  It seemed as if you were hopping on the "stagnant heaven bandwagon."

The RE in reincarnate signifies doing the same thing over again, in this case incarnating into the same physical system.  I just wanted to point out that this is NOT the only option.  Pretty clear cut.  

My point is that the stagnant heaven scenario is false, and my second statement is what I believe to be the truth.

Sure, but you cannot reincarnate into a system you did not incarnate into before.  The initial incarnation into any one system would simply be an incarnation, there is no re- about it because there have been no previous ones yet, it is a brand new experience.  Anyway, lets forget the technicalities, they are besides the point.  The point is that most people do not even consider incarnations into systems besides this one, and this should not be overlooked.