identcat wrote on Sep 2nd, 2008 at 1:28pm:To believe is from the "heart"/emotions.
To know is from the memory/experience.
I like the way u put it Vee. shows where you are at. I figure the reason for a board like this is to put all our heads together and show each other the glimpses we get, as we perceive it through the consciousness exploration we undertake.
until the age of the internet, most of our experiences were kept to ourselves, and the people that had them were considered witches or freaks or crazy, and to some extent this still goes on, and then people think it's best to not even talk about such things that are uncommonly shared.
what I realized more fully, that if we Don't talk about it, we just bury the whole thing and never get a chance to expand on it by communicating the glimpses.
you're different because you say it's memory coming back. I do too, because memory after memory starts to tie in with deep seated behavior patterns I have, although the first initial glimpses into another life say, the temptation is to blow it off, then more and more people come forward, like Alan for example, has had that NDE, and I had similar circumstance that I was dead, and it turned out a spiritual transformation was casting out an old belief system I had outgrown, signifying the death of that belief system.
all the feelings were of death, but the reborn feeling was way worth the death throes! talking about the majesty of being embraced by the light, what we have no word for except that we call it God.
as I forgive, I am forgiven by God myself. it just keeps getting better nowdays to be able to share our incredible adventures here.
the only drawback to be studying what death is and how it is arranged is another thing, as there are few definitions, save some NDE's which speak of the majesty of freedom from body constraint, and the love that is on the other side, we do have focus levels that Monroe outlined as a basis to look at, and go from there.
certainly nobody will be proving anything to anyone else, but the heart doesn't lie, and I say if your heart is into exploring these areas, follow it. who knows, maybe more memories will come just at the right time.
A lot of NDE folks really don't want to come back after they seen Paree! but the very thing that makes us want to stay there, love, is the very thing that makes us come back, love for our family members who want to be with us and would suffer should we leave.
I say this as my mother had an NDE also. there were guides she spoke she told me. So we know we have these guides. they told her she could come with them if she wished. it was up to her. suddenly either she herself remembered or she was impressed by them that she was leaving her firstborn, Joan, without a mother. so she told them I can't leave my daughter, she was only about 2 years old then. she went back into her butchered up body; an illegal abortion she was having long ago. it was not fun, but the right thing to do.
the thing we can't ignore, despite our lack of knowledge is the reference to guides, or helpers.
almost all of my encounters with my former mate were done with the assistance of guides listening in. and with other experiences, I have encountered these people who look quite ordinary, sometimes like a social worker might look, and they always pop up just at the right time to deliver a message, or smooth a situation out for me.
this is why I call it a benevolent universe, despite we have the appearance of troubled times. these people, guides, messengers, they inspire me to call it benevolence operating.
I believe you can see some of that love operating in the books we read right here.
in that case, ahem, no sense rushing the inevitable proof...
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