Hello Top Blue:

One thing I noticed is that you had the freedom to write your blog, write this post, and to choose goodness over negativity. This tells me that whatever it is that ails you, it hasn't been able to take over your mind.

I've had a lot of experience making contact with spirits. Mostly my spirit guidance. I've found out in so many ways that unfriendly spirits don't have the ability to cause us to act against our will. The only way they can gain control us is if we hand them the key.

Are you certain that aspects of your own mind aren't troubling you? One reason I ask this is because I doubt that an unfriendly spirit could pretend to be God and Christ. Another reason is that you've asked for help. If some unfriendly spirits were troubling you, I believe you would've received help by now. Another reason is that going by what I've found, people are much more likely to be troubled by aspects of their own mind, than an unfriendly spirit.

Please don't underestimate the power of our minds to create all kinds of aspects. If we believe in something strongly enough, we might end up creating it. I've done so, and when I stopped believing in what I created my problem went away. Bruce Moen wrote a Banshee story in one of his books. Every night throughout the night a man would be troubled by a demonic being, referred to as a Banshee. Bruce found that this man created this Banshee with his own mind.

Try to get a clue about what is happening for you by paying attention to your dreams. I've found that my higher self/spirit guidance will sometimes create dreams where the different people within the dream represent different aspects of my mind. I have a couple of friends who are twin brothers.  If one of these twins appear within my dream, they do so in order to let me know that the different people within my dream represent different aspects of myself (as in "Twin aspects"). You might check to see if you have a dream with a twin you know. Going by the other people who appear in the dream, you might receive a clue as to what precisely the unfriendly beings you experience actually are.

Have you ever really thought about what a demon could be? Some people believe they are created by satan. I put a lot of effort into trying to find out if the Bible supports the concept of satan, and despite the frequent usage of the name "satan" it doesn't. For one thing, initially the old testament didn't use the word satan. It used the word adversary. The word would be used for different reasons. Sometimes it would used for symbolic reasons, as it was used in the book of Job. According to the book of Job satan traveled to heaven and told God that there isn't one person who fears God. God said that Job does, and supposedly allowed satan to do all kinds of terrible things to Job and kill many of the people Job knew, just so he could prove to satan that there is one man who fears him. I believe this story doesn't make sense for several reasons. For one thing, there is no way that God would feel inclined to prove something to a satan like being. Two, even if God did so for whatever reason feel inclined to prove such a thing, he wouldn't allow satan to do the terrible things he supposedly did in order to do so. Third, being able to move to higher realms is a matter of a being's energetic state being at a high level, and there is no way a satan like being could travel to heaven and speak to God. Four, the story speaks of God as if he is some sort of old man in the sky, rather than a being who exists everywhere, as he manifests as many beings, including the beings who are supposedly evil. Even if the story is true, it is important to notice that satan was able to do what he did only after God gave him the permission to do so. This differs greatly with the notion of demons who trouble people without permission.

There is another explanation for the usage of the Word adversary. Back during the days of the old testament, the leaders of the time would tell people that God was on their side. When things didn't go their way, people wondered why God allowed this to happen. To appease these people the leaders told people that an evil being, adversary, caused them to have problems. As I stated earlier, during later translations "adversary" was changed to satan.

Some people believe the book of Isiah speaks of the origin of satan, because it speaks of a fallen angel named Lucifer. The fact of the matter is that the original book of Isiah did not speak of a fallen angel. It spoke of a fallen king of Babylonia. A physical person. More than 800 years later the book of Isiah was retranslated so that fallen angel language was added. My guess is that if a fallen angel was really involved, such words would've been a part of the book of Isiah when it was initially written.

It doesn't make sense to me that an angel could fall. Spirits become negative when they are exposed to negative influences, as takes place in this World. What kind of negative influences would an angel in heaven be exposed to? Even if one did fall, because it turned away from love, it would've weakened its connection to God, and lost most of its spiritual power. Any person who chooses to live according to love and other positive qualities would vibrate at a higher level and be more powerful.

Some say the Book of Revelations states where satan comes from when it speaks of the seven headed dragon. Christians were going through a lot of problems when the book of revelations was written.  In order to address this problem, while a prisoner on an Island, John wrote a very symbolic letter to the Christians who existed during this time period. He wrote it in a symbolic way with the hope that the Romans couldn't translate it. The seven heads of the dragon symbolized seven hills in Rome.

If aspects of your mind are responsible for what you experience, you can bring them to an end by not believing in whatever it is that causes them to be.

I'm not saying that there aren't any unfriendly spirits at all. Going by what I've found the unfriendly spirits that exist are former human spirits who are in a confused state and haven't moved on to the light. They aren't more powerful than you.  There might even be some unfriendly aliens, but they don't have anything to do with satan based mythology.

There is a lady who visits this forum on occasion who goes by the name of Kathy (Lights of Love). She has been able to see auras for years. She told me that she has never scene a spirit attached to a person. She said that sometimes people believe in something so strongly, they create an aspect of mind that seems to be a seperate entity. I know this contradicts what other people say, but it is worth considering.

I've read a number of possession stories, and in most cases it seemed very possible that aspects of a person's mind were responsible. One thing I noticed is that a supposed possessed person would be very responsive to the method an exorcist used. If an exorcist expected a lot of manifestations from the supposed possessed person such as throwing up, the person would do so. If the exorcist expected the person to not have negative outward manifestations as the exorcism took place, they wouldn't occur. When suggestion plays such a big role, one might consider why.

Whatever the case, things are divinely set up so that we have the power. Especially when we have good intentions and want to live according to love.  

Top Blue:

Obviously I don't know about what's going on for you better than you know. I brought up the aspect possibility because it is a possibility people don't always consider. Bruce Moen's Banshee story and other stories show that aspects of mind can sometimes manifest in a way where it seems as if we are dealing with another being.

Because of the name of your blog, I thought demons might be something you believe in. You mention two emotionally wounded men, which brings up the possibility of spirits that used to be human.  If this is the case, it is good that you were able to discriminate their impure intentions.

I have had experiences with unfriendly spirits. In some way I've told them to go to the light. I'd mention things such as all of us are divine souls, and it is the destiny of each of us to return to the light. When we do so we'll find all of the help, beauty, knowledge, peace, happiness and love we could ever want. I'd tell I don't know what happened during their human life that caused them to become angry, but they'd do themselves a big favor if they didn't allow the events of their life to continue to influence them now.  I'd tell them, you know that eventually you're going to return to the light. Why postpone the most wisest and wonderful thing you could do? I'd tell them that more than anything they hurt themselves if they continue to do what they do. I tell them that regardless of what they've done, there are many wonderful beings of love and light who are more than wiling to help them once they decide to move on towards the light. I tell them that somewhere inside they know that I'm speaking the truth. I'll them thank you for taking the time to listen to me. I've told that some of these spirits have moved on to the light.

I don't know why such spirits would trouble you specifically. Perhaps you have an emotional hurt that is similar to their hurt, and it caused them to be energetically attracted to you. If you get over this hurt, and we have the ability to get over any hurt, their reason for being attracted to you might go away.

It would seem that if you asked for help, perhaps by praying, you would've received it by now. Beings who represent the light are well aware of what goes on within this World both on physical and spiritual levels.  Perhaps they haven't become involved in a more noticeable way, because they know that these two spirits can't harm you. They figure that you'll grow through this experience. Perhaps they figure that you'll be able to help these two spirits by your example. Some say that confused spirits sometimes learn by people who are a able to set a positive example.

Regarding receiving help from me, I'm very involved with helping stuck spirits cross over and other spirit work. The schedule is arranged by the spirit beings I work with. They bring spirits who need help to me all the time. I figure if they wanted me to help you with the spirits you're dealing with, they'd do so. Or whoever else would be right for the job. Perhaps you're right for the job. You just haven't found this out yet. I've found that having faith in one's connection to the light really helps with one's confidence.

Rosemary Altea had the experience of being pestered by an unfriendly spirit for years. I can't remember if this was an actual spirit or a creation of her mind. Whatever the case, one night instead of hiding under her covers she looked this spirit in the face and firmly said: "I'm not afraid of you!" The spirit never troubled her again. This is what unfriendly spirits look for at times. People they can scare. Once they find they can't do so, they go away.

Another thing that helps when an unfriendly spirit comes around, is to tune into love as much as you can. Unless a spirit isn't interested in this love, chances are it won't hang around.

One more thing Top-Blue.

You mentioned that these spirits have special abilities. Whatever these abilities may be, it sure seems to be that they haven't had the ability to prevent you from being a person who isn't interested in their way of doing things. I don't care what anybody says. THEY AREN'T MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU! If you want to live according to love this is your choice and nobody elses.

Top Blue:

I read your blog a second time, I can't say for certain, but you might seriously consider if aspects of your own mind are troubling you. It won't hurt you to try to see.  Our minds are capable of creating a lot of things. My experience with unfriendly spirits is that they don't continue to hang around when you don't allow them to do so. Aspects on the other hand, you have to stop believing in them. If aspects are involved, how could a light being get rid of them? It is up to you.

I really doubt that the spirit of Christ would allow a spirit to act as if it were him if it wasn't.  Going by my experiences, the spirit of Christ would have no problem dealing with a spirit who did so, and would know if a spirit was doing so. Why would he allow imposters to do so? This could make it so that somebody who wants to reach out to him, won't be willing to do so.

Perhaps a verification is needed. If the spirits you speak of still come around, ask them to provide you with information you couldn't possibly know about. If I were being troubled by an entity or two, I'd want to make absolutely certain that I'm not responsible for their existence.

I must add that the unfriendly spirit experiences I have had have been few and short lived.

Hi Spooky,  Thanks for the suggestions,  unfortunately, my HIGHER SELF is not available to me.  And I don't believe I have any HIGHER beings with me.  It seems odd that myself, and the two oob's haven't any 'guides' around.

Sadly, I cannot read books on the subject (or on anything else) - all this 'entity' does is keep me pacing around the house (most of the time).  He worries me badly, and is arrogant and petulant and wants his own way all of the time (in my opinion).   I have a 'remote' helper, but so far nothing has been done.