Friends-

This has been the full moon weekend over the longest day of the year, and such celestial events truly affect (believe it or not) the volume and the tone in the Emergency Room where I work. It is a major trauma center near Atlanta, and things are always busy. Saturday night was chaos.

When I walked down the hall I noticed the group of folks working a cardiac arrest, and I stopped for a moment to look into the room through the big sliding glass doors that front the rooms. As suaual all the folks had specific jobs and were intensely centered on their task. I asked the nurse how he was doing, and she murmured his blood pH was 6.75, which is incompatible with life, and I knew it was a fruitless effort. When I looked back in the room I saw a man standing in the corner, behind the group of folks in colored scrubs. He was in blue jeans and a white tee shirt and was holding a straw hat in his hands, watching the events wide-eyed. I turned to ask the nurse who he was, but when I looked back he was not there.

The drama continued another few minutes, and then it was over. The Code was "called" and that was that. All the equipment and the people left the room, and the curtain was drawn to wait for the priest to administer last rites. After a while even the family left.

I was curious, when I got home and had the time, to see what had happened to Pedro. It is only here in C-1 that time is linear, so it was rather easy to recreate the scene in my head. Especially when there are emotions attached, the brain does not know the difference between the actual event and one's memory of it.

I walked down the etheric re-creation of the A-Hall, and to the room where Pedro had been. There he was still, standing in the corner, hat in hand, in the now empty room. He looked at me when I entered, and I spoke Spanish to him (which I speak in real life, too). I had scrubs and my white coat on when I looked down. Though I had feet, there did not appear to be a floor to stand on. I ALMOST went off into my Narrator left brain, but managed to pull my "eyes" away from the space below.

I asked him how he was doing, and he replied that the pain he had was gone, but that he did not know what had happened. I found myself explaining that he had come to the Emergency Room with a heart attack and that his physical body had died. I asked him if he remembered anything, and he said he recalled having the pain, and then seeing a lot of people in his room, but he thought he had been visiting someone else. He asked if his mother had survived.

Just behind me a Guide spoke, "Oh, yes, my son, I have." A glowing figure stepped past me, and his face rose and lightened, and he took her hand. All three of us left the room and wlaked down the A-Hall into the mists which grew lighter and lighter until we stood before the portico of the Healing Center.

It seem to me that the way to the Healing Center, to The Park, to such areas are much easier to navigate. It is almost as if the two lane gravel road has been widened and paved, with lights and exit signs along the way. At Monroe they talk about anchoring that energy here in C-1, and the pathway of light that it leaves to follow, and it does get easier with practice.

Thomas

thanks Thomas,  yes, anchoring the light is TMI project, and many other groups are joined in. u just reminded me of that. I once saw Monroe nonphysically. He's a very loving soul. the light is love.

that was a really good description you gave for us. you are really in the right spot for your career.
our mutual friend BM also works in hospitals and does retrievals right there in C1 as he sees them also.

Thomas:

What method of travel do you use? OBE with all the effects, traveling around within your awareness while maintaining awareness of your body, traveling around within your awareness without being aware of the physical World-sort of like in a waking dream, or another method?

I used to go OBE with all the effects, but no longer do so. Now my awareness/focus of attention simply travels elsewhere, sometimes with the sensation of movement, sometimes without.  Occasionally I'll go OBE when I become aware during a dream.

Same question for Gordon:

What method do you use?

Thomas:

I get what you're saying. Intially when I did retrievels I would see the face of a person who seemed to need help either while I was meditating or laying in bed awake. I'd get the feeling I should do a retrievel,  imagine a conversation for a short while, and before I knew it I'd be involved in like a waking dream where I was interacting with this person and all kinds of unexpected things would happen.

Things have reached a point where I don't need to be conscious of everything that goes on while helping with retrievels.  Mainly energy is run through me for much of the day that helps spirits cross over because first they see a physical energetic signature that comes from me and then they see my connection to the light.  Other spirit helpers help out with the process in various ways.

I figure that some of us will be quite surprised when the day comes where we find out about the various ways we unknowingly helped out.  In Cosmic Journeys Rosalind Mcknight's guide Ahso speaks about this.

I've also found that it is possible to be aware of physical and spirit realms at the same time.  

Gordon:

I might be wrong, but it seems to me that when we use our astral body we experience all of the effects, when we use our mental body we experience more like Bruce Moen experienced during his explorations. I used to experience all of the effects, but now it seems to be more of a mental body thing. Sometimes my perceptions are more clearer than other times.  Occasionally it is as if I know what I see rather than see it clearly. This leads me to believe that there is knowledge I have on some level that I'm not fully conscious of. Occasionally my guidance will sort of laugh at me when I act ignorant/innocent about what I know.  In some ways it must be fun to see how us embodied beings act from their side.  They probably get a kick out of us at times.

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OK was his mother "there" or "here"? was the guide ...impersonating... a living person or someone who had passed over previously?

That he asked if his mother had survived hints that he thought he was still in C1 and that his mom was in C1 (and she was the sick one).

But the guide seems to take on her persona...?

The question was asked previously here as to what people had experienced about whether a guide might take on the characteristics of a still-living person in order to help someone cross? or if perhaps another aspect of a living person mught be there to help. This question came out of a retrieval in which the mom seemed to be "there" but in "real life" the mom is still "here".

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1208581737.

coments?

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Maybe there is no difference, but in order to function in C1, we create one (a difference) but it can be overridden by the aftereffects of trauma (or drugs or probably some other things).

I had an internet acquaintance a few years ago on a different board who worked as a practical nurse in a nursing home. The board was not about the afterlife. She would occasionally talk about some of the things that happened there with residents who inevitably passed over. I thought it sounded creepy until a few years ago, an older gentleman, the father of an acquaintance of mine, was warehoused in a rehab hospital to die. Because we had shared some fun times around a drum circle or talking about the local wildlife, I went to visit him a couple of times. The first time, I had to wait to see him while some protocol was carried out. Sitting in the hallway, which was cozier than the hospital's...I FELT beings there. And they weren't sad. It seemed to me like they were waiting for people to cross, and happily so. It was something I hadn't expected. Underneath the surface, it didn't feel glum,it felt loving. I suddenly understood why someone might choose to work in a nursing home.

Maybe the ER can feel like that too sometimes...once you get past the tv image of drama.

Yes to all your points here Recoverer.
If I am training/advising someone on all this, I usually try to shift them from the astral to the mental body, as you seem to have done yourself.

"It is as if I know what I see rather than see it clearly"....Yes, very much my experience.
And yes there is knowledge on some level that we're not fully conscious of.  The "i" that is doing the exploring is some kind of lower level "i" that is the knower.
And yes, guidance does get their chuckles out of us.  no doubt about it.  I've been teased more often than I care to remember.

gp

recoverer wrote on Jun 27^th, 2008 at 1:12pm:

Well Thomas, the ultimate observer...is that a higher grade of the observer?  The Monad/Higher Self?  If it is then yes, I have had some inklings as to how "it" sees "me".
:- Like a beloved child, one of many, out on an afternoon' s adventure; one who will most likely get lost in the various forests and mountains but who will eventually come home with many tales to tell.

Am I close?

gordon








tgecks wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2008 at 12:57pm:

Spot on, Gordon.

Thomas

Thanks. Do you think guides ever take on the appearance of people still living focused in C1, or if you saw a person still in C1 "there" would that mean they were there?

Not that it ultimately matters, its just that it getting to that ultimate it sometimes helps to have a clear way to think of things!

hey you just gave me confirmation of something I needed Thomas.
and more books are on the way.

I was on a healing thread for Bruce awhile ago just before he left Puerto Rico due to some serious mishaps in the hospital there...
while doing this healing PE, I was told another book approaches the time line event planners...and I was always wondered if that were true.
so I surely am looking forward to more books from Bruce.

Hi..it's funny we are talking about identity to establish within explorations.

some thoughts: I keep a dream journal on my computer. many years.
sometimes I cannot identify correctly the face I see. sometimes I cannot ascertain the symbols to match up with what I already know.

but the message for my learning, to ponder on, I do not always have to ascertain the identity that quickly to understand the message.
in several incidences, I have not met the face yet in reality that I am dreaming of.
in another instance, to back up what you are saying Thomas, is that for instance, my mother before she died was seeing my nanny's older face image, when Nanny would send her a message.
yet when I saw Nanny, she was young again. I asked nanny why this? she said because mother remembered Nanny as old; and if she had projected her younger face, mother would have been confused.

this does not answer Lucy's question well, but I think Spirit has to fit the container of the recipient, and as well, the particular belief system we could say.

as well, some of my dreams depict the future events for me. just the other day I was thinking about a dream I had several years before my daughter purchased her new house.

In the dream I noticed there was a mother in law addition. I was excited that I would be living in it. (briefly)
In it, as I walked inside, (still dream reality) I discovered a problem with a leaking faucet, as well an outdoor leak on the hose line.
I guess I was concerned about plumbing problems and whether they would get a good buy.
I also saw a man was still living in my future habitat, but I could not identify what I depicted as a tenant, who would be asked to leave.
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so what manifested in reality to show how tricky is interpretations on dreams, is this: It came to pass the kids did purchase a house with a mother in law in the back. it was actually formerly a garage, and in the dream it was stationed as a separate unit from the storage room, in reality it was all one building.
the thing that made me realize I was actually seeing their future home at least a year in advance of it's purchase, was when I moved in we had leaks in those areas I had seen, as well, in the time it took for me to move in with the kids, my kid's boyfriend had set up his office in the  MIL apt and we had to "kick him out." lol. he went so willingly, but it was very quick feeling I got, of events moving.

previously, I had failed to identify the tenant as Kenny. but I remembered distinctly my feeling of not wanting to dislodge a tenant.

love, alysia