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Reply #15 - Jul 3rd, 2008 at 7:49pm
 
have to tell a little tale abuot The Observer, the Seeker and the Finder, since you guys are talking about the observer.

I was in New Orleans hotel on a holiday and awoke with a message. It said 3 parts to you; the Seeker, the finder, and the Observer.

Until that time of life I hadn't much experience with having an observer, not until I did a retrieval involving the observer being active.

I kept the message in mind, wishing to develop it further as time went on, as it seemed like a formula to me. When I did this particular retrieval I noticed I was also observing the other two parts as in a learning situation. the first part of the retrieval took place on a stage with an audience; players who helped direct, and who ran cameras. as the retrieval went on we left the staging area and it became more like virtual reality and the sense of an observer was no longer there.
In other words, it was no longer acting, but had become myself living out a role, which was all that I knew.

I think this is what happens to us when we enter a lifetime to live. we are coming onto the physical stage and our memory is wiped out of previous experiences, so we can get into this life and really focus on it.  Some retrievals take courage. so that was the purpose of this one, personally. I found some courage and got a huge boost from a successful retrieval.

The observer also seems to weigh and balance issues, it's very unemotional, and very higher mental. It does seem to need cultivation and/or invitation.

It's almost like a 6th sense, enabling you to read between the lines of a post or literature.

love, alysia
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Reply #16 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 9:45am
 
Spot on, Gordon.

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Reply #17 - Jul 8th, 2008 at 8:20pm
 
Oh, yes, Lucy. I was not until the moment my guide/my helper stepped by me really aware that I had one with me. In Lifelines we "went to 27 and met a guide who guides you back to the soul you are working with." IT is not always a retreival, as you know.

I think the guide must have been his mother, as he recognized her instantly and hesitated not one moment in moving to her to join hands and embrace heart to heart. I was merely a channel for the energy, as I think I often am, a sort of grounding rod for the earthly end of the pipeline of light.

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Reply #18 - Jul 9th, 2008 at 10:06am
 
Thanks. Do you think guides ever take on the appearance of people still living focused in C1, or if you saw a person still in C1 "there" would that mean they were there?

Not that it ultimately matters, its just that it getting to that ultimate it sometimes helps to have a clear way to think of things!
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Reply #19 - Jul 14th, 2008 at 9:26am
 
Well, I asked Bruce this exact question this weekend at his workshop. We were only nine people and with such a small group we were fortunate to have unlimited access and a very friendly man as well.

One of the girls had done a retrieval and her Guide that had showed up was Deborah Harry from Blondie (a singing group from the 1980's still around). She was certain it was she, and we did comment that she was actually still among the living, and on C-1. It was the concensus after some discussion that this was indeed an aspect of Deborah Harry who had come as a result of the request for a Guide for a specific retrieval, and it made no never mind that she is still alive on C-1. Bruce also agreed that it was certainly she, and not "just a clone" though we were not sure if there would be any difference.

I also noticed that I do not get my guide before I find my retrieval target, and further, I just assume they will show up when and if they are needed in the process. Sometimes I take the retreivee to The Park myself, and my Guide just witnesses it.

I had a very complicated and multi-dimensional retrieval as part of the workshop, and I will post it eventually, but it is still in process.

Hey, y'all, take that workshop! It was great, and I am an experienced retriever who has attended many Monroe programs, including Lifeline. Bruce is a great mentor, and one hell of a nice man. Pharon is equally nice (that's Mrs. Moen). He is planning Partnered Exploration and Retrieval of Aspects of Self workshops as separate from this basic one, and more books are on the way. The group energy was great.

I am beginning to experience ALL OF IT as aspects of myself. It seems like the separation between us (when Eve ate that apple) is beginning to dissolve, at least to me. And there are fewer to be found on Focus 23, and fewer in the belief system territories as well. Everything seems to be moving up at least as far as Focus 27, The Park. Just my observations......

Thomas
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Reply #20 - Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:02pm
 
hey you just gave me confirmation of something I needed Thomas.
and more books are on the way.

I was on a healing thread for Bruce awhile ago just before he left Puerto Rico due to some serious mishaps in the hospital there...
while doing this healing PE, I was told another book approaches the time line event planners...and I was always wondered if that were true.
so I surely am looking forward to more books from Bruce.
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Reply #21 - Jul 14th, 2008 at 12:50pm
 
Continuing, I watched WHAT DREAM MAY COME with a friend the othernight, and it was a treat I had not expected on this point. I had seen it before, and it is certainly a wonderful depiction of these exact themes (now almost 20 years old, too).

The reason I bring it up was that Leona was the character of the Asian Air Hostess, and there was some wuestion as to who she actually was. She said her Daddy had come home form a trip to Singapore on a plane and had said he found Asian women so graceful and beautiful, and she said, "That's what I want to be..." And so it was. It was actually his daughter in the afterlife who he was seeing as Leona the Asian Flight Attnedant........ It does not ruin the story to say it was acutally his daughter,and apparently her appearance was the result of her desire to appear beautiful and graceful to her father.

Likewise, I think, as it is all a reflection  of the One of Us anyhow, that any loving being would suffice, and the "eyes" of the person needing the help would see it as they see it. That is, as a flight attendant or a daughter, or a friend or relative. It would show up however it needs to show up to accomplish the task, in my opinion. But who knows?

Even Bruce confessed this weekend that occasionally his left brain howls with laughter and declares it all HORSESHIT. Me, too, but not so much any more. But from time to time it seems pretty amusing. And then I go back to work in the certainty that THIS is the dream here in C-1, and THAT is real, over there. Very Course in Miracles: nothing real can be threatened, nothing unreal exists. Herein lies the pease of God.

And I am off to TMI the last wek in July for Starlines. Can't wait!

Thomas

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Reply #22 - Jul 14th, 2008 at 1:34pm
 
Hi..it's funny we are talking about identity to establish within explorations.

some thoughts: I keep a dream journal on my computer. many years.
sometimes I cannot identify correctly the face I see. sometimes I cannot ascertain the symbols to match up with what I already know.

but the message for my learning, to ponder on, I do not always have to ascertain the identity that quickly to understand the message.
in several incidences, I have not met the face yet in reality that I am dreaming of.
in another instance, to back up what you are saying Thomas, is that for instance, my mother before she died was seeing my nanny's older face image, when Nanny would send her a message.
yet when I saw Nanny, she was young again. I asked nanny why this? she said because mother remembered Nanny as old; and if she had projected her younger face, mother would have been confused.

this does not answer Lucy's question well, but I think Spirit has to fit the container of the recipient, and as well, the particular belief system we could say.

as well, some of my dreams depict the future events for me. just the other day I was thinking about a dream I had several years before my daughter purchased her new house.

In the dream I noticed there was a mother in law addition. I was excited that I would be living in it. (briefly)
In it, as I walked inside, (still dream reality) I discovered a problem with a leaking faucet, as well an outdoor leak on the hose line.
I guess I was concerned about plumbing problems and whether they would get a good buy.
I also saw a man was still living in my future habitat, but I could not identify what I depicted as a tenant, who would be asked to leave.
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so what manifested in reality to show how tricky is interpretations on dreams, is this: It came to pass the kids did purchase a house with a mother in law in the back. it was actually formerly a garage, and in the dream it was stationed as a separate unit from the storage room, in reality it was all one building.
the thing that made me realize I was actually seeing their future home at least a year in advance of it's purchase, was when I moved in we had leaks in those areas I had seen, as well, in the time it took for me to move in with the kids, my kid's boyfriend had set up his office in the  MIL apt and we had to "kick him out." lol. he went so willingly, but it was very quick feeling I got, of events moving.

previously, I had failed to identify the tenant as Kenny. but I remembered distinctly my feeling of not wanting to dislodge a tenant.

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Reply #23 - Aug 26th, 2008 at 8:12pm
 
Awesome story, Thomas. Smiley
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