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Friends-

This has been the full moon weekend over the longest day of the year, and such celestial events truly affect (believe it or not) the volume and the tone in the Emergency Room where I work. It is a major trauma center near Atlanta, and things are always busy. Saturday night was chaos.

When I walked down the hall I noticed the group of folks working a cardiac arrest, and I stopped for a moment to look into the room through the big sliding glass doors that front the rooms. As suaual all the folks had specific jobs and were intensely centered on their task. I asked the nurse how he was doing, and she murmured his blood pH was 6.75, which is incompatible with life, and I knew it was a fruitless effort. When I looked back in the room I saw a man standing in the corner, behind the group of folks in colored scrubs. He was in blue jeans and a white tee shirt and was holding a straw hat in his hands, watching the events wide-eyed. I turned to ask the nurse who he was, but when I looked back he was not there.

The drama continued another few minutes, and then it was over. The Code was "called" and that was that. All the equipment and the people left the room, and the curtain was drawn to wait for the priest to administer last rites. After a while even the family left.

I was curious, when I got home and had the time, to see what had happened to Pedro. It is only here in C-1 that time is linear, so it was rather easy to recreate the scene in my head. Especially when there are emotions attached, the brain does not know the difference between the actual event and one's memory of it.

I walked down the etheric re-creation of the A-Hall, and to the room where Pedro had been. There he was still, standing in the corner, hat in hand, in the now empty room. He looked at me when I entered, and I spoke Spanish to him (which I speak in real life, too). I had scrubs and my white coat on when I looked down. Though I had feet, there did not appear to be a floor to stand on. I ALMOST went off into my Narrator left brain, but managed to pull my "eyes" away from the space below.

I asked him how he was doing, and he replied that the pain he had was gone, but that he did not know what had happened. I found myself explaining that he had come to the Emergency Room with a heart attack and that his physical body had died. I asked him if he remembered anything, and he said he recalled having the pain, and then seeing a lot of people in his room, but he thought he had been visiting someone else. He asked if his mother had survived.

Just behind me a Guide spoke, "Oh, yes, my son, I have." A glowing figure stepped past me, and his face rose and lightened, and he took her hand. All three of us left the room and wlaked down the A-Hall into the mists which grew lighter and lighter until we stood before the portico of the Healing Center.

It seem to me that the way to the Healing Center, to The Park, to such areas are much easier to navigate. It is almost as if the two lane gravel road has been widened and paved, with lights and exit signs along the way. At Monroe they talk about anchoring that energy here in C-1, and the pathway of light that it leaves to follow, and it does get easier with practice.

Thomas

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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2008 at 7:38pm
 
That was wonderful and exciting.  I like that you got to see him in the room.
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2008 at 6:15pm
 
thanks Thomas,  yes, anchoring the light is TMI project, and many other groups are joined in. u just reminded me of that. I once saw Monroe nonphysically. He's a very loving soul. the light is love.

that was a really good description you gave for us. you are really in the right spot for your career.
our mutual friend BM also works in hospitals and does retrievals right there in C1 as he sees them also.
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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2008 at 6:55pm
 
Thomas you're doing great work in that hospital, - on both levels!

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tgecks wrote on Jun 23rd, 2008 at 12:45pm:
Friends-

This has been the full moon weekend over the longest day of the year, and such celestial events truly affect (believe it or not) the volume and the tone in the Emergency Room where I work. It is a major trauma center near Atlanta, and things are always busy. Saturday night was chaos.

When I walked down the hall I noticed the group of folks working a cardiac arrest, and I stopped for a moment to look into the room through the big sliding glass doors that front the rooms. As suaual all the folks had specific jobs and were intensely centered on their task. I asked the nurse how he was doing, and she murmured his blood pH was 6.75, which is incompatible with life, and I knew it was a fruitless effort. When I looked back in the room I saw a man standing in the corner, behind the group of folks in colored scrubs. He was in blue jeans and a white tee shirt and was holding a straw hat in his hands, watching the events wide-eyed. I turned to ask the nurse who he was, but when I looked back he was not there.

The drama continued another few minutes, and then it was over. The Code was "called" and that was that. All the equipment and the people left the room, and the curtain was drawn to wait for the priest to administer last rites. After a while even the family left.

I was curious, when I got home and had the time, to see what had happened to Pedro. It is only here in C-1 that time is linear, so it was rather easy to recreate the scene in my head. Especially when there are emotions attached, the brain does not know the difference between the actual event and one's memory of it.

I walked down the etheric re-creation of the A-Hall, and to the room where Pedro had been. There he was still, standing in the corner, hat in hand, in the now empty room. He looked at me when I entered, and I spoke Spanish to him (which I speak in real life, too). I had scrubs and my white coat on when I looked down. Though I had feet, there did not appear to be a floor to stand on. I ALMOST went off into my Narrator left brain, but managed to pull my "eyes" away from the space below.

I asked him how he was doing, and he replied that the pain he had was gone, but that he did not know what had happened. I found myself explaining that he had come to the Emergency Room with a heart attack and that his physical body had died. I asked him if he remembered anything, and he said he recalled having the pain, and then seeing a lot of people in his room, but he thought he had been visiting someone else. He asked if his mother had survived.

Just behind me a Guide spoke, "Oh, yes, my son, I have." A glowing figure stepped past me, and his face rose and lightened, and he took her hand. All three of us left the room and wlaked down the A-Hall into the mists which grew lighter and lighter until we stood before the portico of the Healing Center.

It seem to me that the way to the Healing Center, to The Park, to such areas are much easier to navigate. It is almost as if the two lane gravel road has been widened and paved, with lights and exit signs along the way. At Monroe they talk about anchoring that energy here in C-1, and the pathway of light that it leaves to follow, and it does get easier with practice.

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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2008 at 1:08pm
 
Thomas:

What method of travel do you use? OBE with all the effects, traveling around within your awareness while maintaining awareness of your body, traveling around within your awareness without being aware of the physical World-sort of like in a waking dream, or another method?

I used to go OBE with all the effects, but no longer do so. Now my awareness/focus of attention simply travels elsewhere, sometimes with the sensation of movement, sometimes without.  Occasionally I'll go OBE when I become aware during a dream.

Same question for Gordon:

What method do you use?

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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 10:31am
 
Recoverer and Gordon-

I used to need an absolutely dark room with headphones and CDs with Hemi-Synch and would do a full preparatory process and count up and all. Now I find I can take a breath, one breath, and as I exhale I separate part of me and attend to what ever task presents itself. I remember starting to think about the cyclone in Myanmar while I was having lunch at Quizno's, and by the time I got out to the car to drive home I felt like I was in the jungles of Southeast Asia working already. It used to bother me( rather like Bruce's story in his books) if I did not have my undivided and full atention on  the task, but find I am participating in such work much of my waking life, as well as in my sleeping hours.

Now I can stand aside in a bright and busy room filled with people and take a breath and be out there, watching from a different perspective. I am both out there and in my body, too. Like bilocation, I guess.

All I have to suggest is practice, practice, practice. There is much to be done if we are willing and able.

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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:37pm
 
Thomas:

I get what you're saying. Intially when I did retrievels I would see the face of a person who seemed to need help either while I was meditating or laying in bed awake. I'd get the feeling I should do a retrievel,  imagine a conversation for a short while, and before I knew it I'd be involved in like a waking dream where I was interacting with this person and all kinds of unexpected things would happen.

Things have reached a point where I don't need to be conscious of everything that goes on while helping with retrievels.  Mainly energy is run through me for much of the day that helps spirits cross over because first they see a physical energetic signature that comes from me and then they see my connection to the light.  Other spirit helpers help out with the process in various ways.

I figure that some of us will be quite surprised when the day comes where we find out about the various ways we unknowingly helped out.  In Cosmic Journeys Rosalind Mcknight's guide Ahso speaks about this.

I've also found that it is possible to be aware of physical and spirit realms at the same time.  
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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:50pm
 
Thomas/Recoverer:

i feel like I'm projecting a consciousness fragment, that in more traditional terms would be called "the mental body" as opposed to "the astral body"; the mental has many advantages over the astral, as i suspect you know, but it has the drawback for newbies in that the effects are so subtle as to be almost not there.  The excitements of fear and desire which the astral body so readily reverberates to are literally "not there".

I love the enclosure of using headphones and hemi-sync and darkness, but can do the work without them if necessary.
Admittedly, the subtleties of the experience are even further diminished when operating in public, with noise, light and every kind of distraction, but the accumulated evidence from Bruce on down to the rest of us seems to indicate, that the work is still accomplished.

Sorry to be always plugging, but i do go into this in depth in More Adventures In Eternity.  Maybe i'll post the introduction here.

And yes, I strongly suspect that at some "future" point, either here or after "passing", we shall be amazed to find out just how much we have been doing above and beyond our conscious apprehension.

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recoverer wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 12:37pm:
Thomas:

I get what you're saying. Intially when I did retrievels I would see the face of a person who seemed to need help either while I was meditating or laying in bed awake. I'd get the feeling I should do a retrievel,  imagine a conversation for a short while, and before I knew it I'd be involved in like a waking dream where I was interacting with this person and all kinds of unexpected things would happen.

Things have reached a point where I don't need to be conscious of everything that goes on while helping with retrievels.  Mainly energy is run through me for much of the day that helps spirits cross over because first they see a physical energetic signature that comes from me and then they see my connection to the light.  Other spirit helpers help out with the process in various ways.

I figure that some of us will be quite surprised when the day comes where we find out about the various ways we unknowingly helped out.  In Cosmic Journeys Rosalind Mcknight's guide Ahso speaks about this.

I've also found that it is possible to be aware of physical and spirit realms at the same time. 

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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2008 at 1:12pm
 
Gordon:

I might be wrong, but it seems to me that when we use our astral body we experience all of the effects, when we use our mental body we experience more like Bruce Moen experienced during his explorations. I used to experience all of the effects, but now it seems to be more of a mental body thing. Sometimes my perceptions are more clearer than other times.  Occasionally it is as if I know what I see rather than see it clearly. This leads me to believe that there is knowledge I have on some level that I'm not fully conscious of. Occasionally my guidance will sort of laugh at me when I act ignorant/innocent about what I know.  In some ways it must be fun to see how us embodied beings act from their side.  They probably get a kick out of us at times.
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Reply #9 - Jul 1st, 2008 at 2:08pm
 
yes, I agree Recoverer, I myself have gotten quite a kick over observing you in the other planes, u sure use a lot of body language out there.  Smiley  I'm more of a talker when I go out.

of course I have no way of knowing if any awareness of your self interacting with me has come to you. would like to discuss it with you sometime if ever we could stop discussing theology.

for now, just be aware, you are quite a character.

I agree, we are just not totally aware of all the details of what we do at night.
I do have one little tidbit of info. concerning how different time is out there.
I once went consciously obe before falling asleep, I noted the time when I got back, it was morning already. it had taken me about 7 hours linear time/wise, to complete one retrieval and discuss my future plans with some guides after the retrieval, and to view some future property I would buy.
it seemed to all go by so fast, I had thought I had only been out an hour at the most.

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Reply #10 - Jul 1st, 2008 at 10:04pm
 
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...but he thought he had been visiting someone else. He asked if his mother had survived.
Just behind me a Guide spoke, "Oh, yes, my son, I have." A glowing figure stepped past me, and his face rose and lightened, and he took her hand.


OK was his mother "there" or "here"? was the guide ...impersonating... a living person or someone who had passed over previously?

That he asked if his mother had survived hints that he thought he was still in C1 and that his mom was in C1 (and she was the sick one).

But the guide seems to take on her persona...?

The question was asked previously here as to what people had experienced about whether a guide might take on the characteristics of a still-living person in order to help someone cross? or if perhaps another aspect of a living person mught be there to help. This question came out of a retrieval in which the mom seemed to be "there" but in "real life" the mom is still "here".

http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1208581737.

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Especially when there are emotions attached, the brain does not know the difference between the actual event and one's memory of it.

Maybe there is no difference, but in order to function in C1, we create one (a difference) but it can be overridden by the aftereffects of trauma (or drugs or probably some other things).

I had an internet acquaintance a few years ago on a different board who worked as a practical nurse in a nursing home. The board was not about the afterlife. She would occasionally talk about some of the things that happened there with residents who inevitably passed over. I thought it sounded creepy until a few years ago, an older gentleman, the father of an acquaintance of mine, was warehoused in a rehab hospital to die. Because we had shared some fun times around a drum circle or talking about the local wildlife, I went to visit him a couple of times. The first time, I had to wait to see him while some protocol was carried out. Sitting in the hallway, which was cozier than the hospital's...I FELT beings there. And they weren't sad. It seemed to me like they were waiting for people to cross, and happily so. It was something I hadn't expected. Underneath the surface, it didn't feel glum,it felt loving. I suddenly understood why someone might choose to work in a nursing home.

Maybe the ER can feel like that too sometimes...once you get past the tv image of drama.

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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2008 at 7:26pm
 
Greetings,

Regarding spirits taking on the appearance of a loved one in order to better communicate --
Carl Sagan in Contact has his main character come to that conclusion after her reunion with 'her father.'  Also I seem to recall that Bruce etc also say it happens.

''Impersonation'' carries some negative connotations from our earthly realm where it is done as a trick sometimes. On Earth it's often done for humor or deceit, for the gain of the impersonator and not for the good of those directly involved. 
Spirit Helpers are above having their own agendas and are working for the spiritual development of those involved.

Also, Spirit Helpers are often from the Disc (extended) Family where individual differences are blended and merged, so they are not so much an other person as would be a stranger on earth.
Please do not think badly of them for the work they do is for our good.

Lucy, your experience with the waiting spirits was phenomenal!  Many thanks for sharing it!

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Reply #12 - Jul 2nd, 2008 at 8:11pm
 
Yes to all your points here Recoverer.
If I am training/advising someone on all this, I usually try to shift them from the astral to the mental body, as you seem to have done yourself.

"It is as if I know what I see rather than see it clearly"....Yes, very much my experience.
And yes there is knowledge on some level that we're not fully conscious of.  The "i" that is doing the exploring is some kind of lower level "i" that is the knower.
And yes, guidance does get their chuckles out of us.  no doubt about it.  I've been teased more often than I care to remember.

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recoverer wrote on Jun 27th, 2008 at 1:12pm:
Gordon:

I might be wrong, but it seems to me that when we use our astral body we experience all of the effects, when we use our mental body we experience more like Bruce Moen experienced during his explorations. I used to experience all of the effects, but now it seems to be more of a mental body thing. Sometimes my perceptions are more clearer than other times.  Occasionally it is as if I know what I see rather than see it clearly. This leads me to believe that there is knowledge I have on some level that I'm not fully conscious of. Occasionally my guidance will sort of laugh at me when I act ignorant/innocent about what I know.  In some ways it must be fun to see how us embodied beings act from their side.  They probably get a kick out of us at times.

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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:57pm
 
I agree. There is The Observer and there is The Interpretor. My Interpretor part wants to make up a story to link it all together, to provide the narration. My Observer simply watches.

I remember Skip Atwater saying over and over at the Remote Viewing training to "Use the raw data only" meaning to ignore the Intertporetor trying to make up a connecting thread and to put it all in context, usually a contest from my past. It is like a search is done to see if there is matching data (any match will work) from the past.

There is apart of me that is detached and busy, and when I go out of body I join with it. At times, though, there is no question that it joins with me, like that night in the ER. Sometimes I feel compelled to go down the hall in to a small quiet room for a minute of breathing and grounding, and it is during those times I feel most connested to it all.

And, like the movie What The Bleep, I ask, have you ever seen yourself from the perspective of The Ultimate Observer? It is a wonderful experience, I think.

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Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2008 at 3:18pm
 
Well Thomas, the ultimate observer...is that a higher grade of the observer?  The Monad/Higher Self?  If it is then yes, I have had some inklings as to how "it" sees "me".
:- Like a beloved child, one of many, out on an afternoon' s adventure; one who will most likely get lost in the various forests and mountains but who will eventually come home with many tales to tell.

Am I close?

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tgecks wrote on Jul 3rd, 2008 at 12:57pm:
I agree. There is The Observer and there is The Interpretor. My Interpretor part wants to make up a story to link it all together, to provide the narration. My Observer simply watches.

I remember Skip Atwater saying over and over at the Remote Viewing training to "Use the raw data only" meaning to ignore the Intertporetor trying to make up a connecting thread and to put it all in context, usually a contest from my past. It is like a search is done to see if there is matching data (any match will work) from the past.

There is apart of me that is detached and busy, and when I go out of body I join with it. At times, though, there is no question that it joins with me, like that night in the ER. Sometimes I feel compelled to go down the hall in to a small quiet room for a minute of breathing and grounding, and it is during those times I feel most connested to it all.

And, like the movie What The Bleep, I ask, have you ever seen yourself from the perspective of The Ultimate Observer? It is a wonderful experience, I think.

Love and LIght,
Thomas

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