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evp?
Jun 12th, 2008 at 10:22am
 
I got to work today and listened to my messages. There's a strange one on there. Normally, I wouldn't have paid any attention to it, thinking it was just a "hang-up" call that someone gave up on. Just a snippet on it. I couldn't understand it until I listened several times. Very fast.

It says:

smoke a pipe?

That's all. Like an invitation. I can hear it quite clearly now.

Odd, just thought I'd mention it. Of course, someone could have just "happened" to say "just" those words to someone while being near the caller, or by making a "random" mistaken call. But why did the voice sound like that, so compressed? Why did it sound so much like evp? (and no, don't tell me it's because the person was smoking something funny!)

Strange. I wouldn't have made a note of it except that I think it is a little unusual. I specifically remember thinking, this is odd, so I'm going to pay attention. Again, I emphasize, normally I would not have paid any attention to it, just deleted it immediately.  You could barely hear it.

Does this happen to anyone else?
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Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2008 at 11:18am
 
Hallo Blink, and All,

This whole field of EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) interested me a few years ago, and there seems to be quite a lot about it on the internet now.

A few years ago though, I bought a report from the British SPR (Society for Psychical Research) of a thorough study of the effect by DJ Ellis, under a studentship at Trinity College, Cambridge. The report is entitled "The Mediumship of the Tape Recorder" (1978, ISBN 0 9506024 0 X, publ David Ellis, Pulborough, Sussex UK) and runs to 161 pages. The author started the study with a clear expectation of verifying and optimising the technique, but afterwards had to conclude that the "voices" were actually just subjective constructs of random sounds. The most negative finding, in his opinion, was that individual listeners (including those who first discovered the EVP - like Konstantin Radive) differed in their interpretation of what any one "voice" was saying - and in what language! He described this effect as like reading "audible tea-leaves".

A tape I bought from the SPR, of a lecture by one of the then EVP specialists, (Richard Sheargold), was illustrated by some of the voices he had selected as his best specimens, and I have to say listening to them does tend to back up Ellis's conclusions. When you are told beforehand what the voices are "supposed" to be saying, you can convince yourself that indeed they are saying those words, but otherwise the interpretation is difficult, and tenuous, to say the least!

Have the techniques improved in the years since, and the EVP placed on a firmer grounding - or is the jury still out on the EVP?

Best wishes,

Alfred
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2008 at 1:17pm
 
Thank you for your comments, Alfred. I feel the same way about the evp "snippets" I have heard while briefly looking into this subject once or twice. I had a difficult time hearing what I was "supposed" to hear. So, it is quite possible that someone else might hear this recording differently than I do.

It was interesting how the recording fell into perfect clarity once I "heard" what it was saying to me.

I would like to know if there has been any progress with conclusive proof, with recordings which match the voices of the departed, or the living, which they are supposed to represent. And I would also like to know if there are any "less vague" recordings which might be of interest to us here.
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