Alan McDougall wrote on Jun 1^st, 2008 at 5:56pm:


So we can start the dialogue, where you say God is "everything that exists" and i come along and say God is All That Is.   so we have a beginning point to try and define what centuries of humans have been yakking about.

so all this time we've been evolving here as us and we still ask the same questions. So lets look at this thread we are on for another starting place. Have you ever, (I've done this) asked yourself why do I post stuff here? I've been here a long time. years. you can bet I started asking this question after several years go by, you have to.

so this is a clue. Because we love to communicate with other humans is one reason. what is happening now in this space we made, that Alan so kindly started?
For starters to larger questions we return to basics first. It's clear, we enjoy the talk. But is there a reason to be someplace else? Not if we prefer to be here, with each other, talking about whatever.

Not only that, we don't talk to just listen to ourselves talk. we actually respond to each other. Ian is in Ireland. I'm in the states, Alan is in Africa.  we are friends. All that's really important is how communicating in a non threatening environment like this, makes us more aware, more conscious, and therefore we need to be aware there is purpose in this monism stuff.

we are figuring out Alan who and what we are, and we are godlings in a larger sense, and now we return to a former thread "Is God Becoming Us?" and it was a marvelous thread!

Channelling God I think is quite possible Ian. I believe ACIM was channelled through the God Head.
That is ascended masters. If God could be said to be All That Is, then who we are is part of that All That Is and in the midst of breaking through the mind filters which prevent ourselves from understanding that premise.

returning to Alan, as he is puzzled why or how he can an ego at the same time he knows he is this mini god perhaps. forgive me if I'm not understanding the question.

I think one answer might work for you Alan, it works for me, that we are here to gather consciousness, or experiences. thereby adding to the whole more fruits we make on the Earth plane.

the fruit is the garden of your own soul, your character development. from my perception, after a life is lived, the disc members always greet you and want to know what you brought back home, ie: the fruits. as well the disc members add their own fruits of conscious objective experiences.

Monroe calls it Loosh gathering. a harvest of experiences, and choices made within that experience right or wrong or somewhere in between. it's because of the free will thing. we can goof off an entire life if we want, due to free will.

Loosh is PUL, or love. or even god consciousness. to make it more simple I'll tell what I see in my imagination; that way you can blow me off if you want.

I always see a table of counselors in my disc. without them I wouldn't exist is how I feel. I listen carefully to what they say, as they have different experiences and I can learn from them without having to incarnate and do what they just went through. I can partake of their fruit in other words.
They always ask me after a life, did you hurt someone this time on purpose? I might say not that I know of, and they might take me back to a point where I had hurt someone and show me how I could have done that differently to prevent what occurred to that person after my deed, whatever deed that might have been. so we can continue learning on the other side, so we don't have to come back and learn firsthand. then they might show me some situations where I considered myself failed in. they could say, we will show you how that failure was really a success for your soul.

then I conjecture we would do this with each member and decide together if everyone's intentions panned out ok, and we would celebrate the victories or set about fixing what failed and/or both, or even wink out of this ELS system, in order to explore other galaxies, and forms of life.

Reason for living? ask a mountain climber why he bothers. because it's there. The Earth has not been appreciated and has been taken for granted. She has fed us and given us a home, and all we do is try to get off her. lol. and go home.
but really, Alan, look at this viewpoint; what if we could bring "home" here? Is that possible?

Once in awhile, the reason I like this board is we do come up with the right question, but it's usually something to do with Who and What we are.

I think this is very abstract thinking. but fun to jaw with ya!

Hi,

I could name my parrot god and have as meaningful a talk.

Is the example Alan gave  someone's deceit or a misunderstanding?  If it is one of those, who is responsible for the deceit or the misundertanding ?  Maybe a naughty spirit is having fun with the supposed channeller and the guy really believes it . I can't tell.   

All I know is to be responsible for my own actions and reactions. My reaction is to walk away. 

Bets

And yet...

quite a few NDEs have been changed by their amazingly close encounter with God.
What they describe is the same as or similiar to the state of mind that ancient mystics
devoted their lives to find.

For some reason most afterlife websites don't get NDEers actively involved.
( I suspect that when you truly know something, it matters less what others
are willing to accept.)
This site is fortunate that Alan's spiritual skills and interests go beyond his own NDE.
He's proven his spiritual gifts more than a couple of times!

Maybe the holagraphic principle is at work here
When having a NDE, the human soul is united with God and senses the unity.
Parts and whole perhaps aren't experienced the same way as in the physical.
Heaven knows other dimensions -- such as time -- are ceertainly different.

Bets