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Experiencing disk question. (Read 7988 times)
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Reply #15 - May 21st, 2008 at 6:56pm
 
Thank you Alysia.  Kiss Kiss I don't for a moment question your ability to motor about these realities, and to communicate routinely with those you encounter there.

I get mostly bits and snatches, psychic action and lots of symbolic and non space/time stuff. (e.g. this female voice shouted out quite a long sentence loudly in my ear again yesterday morning while I was in a lucid dreaming state, but I couldn't quite catch what she was saying)

I should have said 'dropping attachment to beliefs' and not 'dropping beliefs', leading to the ability to move freely between realities and focus levels. Because it looks very like we eventually gain the ability to perceive, to move between and ultimately to create different realities.

But the more complicated interactions with people and guides are so far all a matter of hearsay for me. My experience is enough though to ensure I'm not even slightly sceptical when you talk of this 'stuff'.

The other thought I was communicating was I suppose that all of the focus levels no matter how ephemeral are presumably manifestations of beliefs, albeit in some cases widely shared - certainly at least the space/time/pseudo physical scenarios.

My intention is to stay wide open.

I don't feel even slightly left out. You guys could not be more inclusive and open to input. Even to the very odd bit of slightly more robust debate...

Wink Perhaps you might pay me visit one of these nights, help lever me past whatever it is that's blocking my clearly perceiving the focus levels. If you'd risk setting 'foot' in a place so odd as my belfry....
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Reply #16 - May 21st, 2008 at 10:44pm
 
well goodness, I think I've received an invitation!   Smiley

you said: Ian said I should have said 'dropping attachment to beliefs' and not 'dropping beliefs', leading to the ability to move freely between realities and focus levels. Because it looks very like we eventually gain the ability to perceive, to move between and ultimately to create different realities.
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that is extraordinarily well expressed sentence. you guys on this board keep surprising me. i keep looking for your perfections and keep finding them that way i suppose.

To me, we're all exactly in the right spot of development when I can detect caring about each other running through the threads here and there.

I too, occassionally get the odd ball screech in my ear, one time my own mother, and she was out of town! haha!  most often Ian, I've found the interactions to be very short ones, conversation is remembered only in snatches..most frustrating to try and remember language when coming back to C1, but working on it. it's a form of rote tossing, which is thought balls, or it is telepathy with a few key words thrown in to unravel upon awakening.

in reference to it's us who create the BST's, and so are they real? just about as real as the experience of going downtown and eating at your favorite restaurant I suppose. we still have our 5 senses on the other side and the sensory apparatus is how we measure our reality to a certain degree, but they don't walk around thinking I'm dreaming I'm here. thats what I do in ELS! haha! they don't have the same questions we do, is how I see it.
I think what you may be getting at is who's home in there? just a belief?

if we return to an examination of our friendship, and everywhere we see PUL as a state of consciousness we can begin to recognize this PUL in others which expands the mind as well, we know that something is growing and becoming, we can relax in that once in awhile, that all our questions will have an answer.
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Reply #17 - May 23rd, 2008 at 7:37pm
 
R--- you made me smile! 
When I have experienced my "I/There" I too was fully awake.  I have seen many of my "selves" over the years.  My disc was represented by a totem pole pylon (how appropriate--- a gateway)with human bodies piled on atop the other.  I climbed up and up. Some of the arms of individuals were reaching out to me.  Faces were exposed.  I kept climbing up, without fear, but with great curiosity. 
A mustang is reliable. White is cleansing.  Chinese are wisdom.  You have wonderful qualities in your I/There. A little humor  also because the mustang was an automobile--- meaning self propelled!  Thank you for sharing.  Happy adventures to you. Carol Ann
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Reply #18 - May 23rd, 2008 at 7:51pm
 
Thank you for sharing identcat. I like the totem pole analogy your disk used.   Smiley It really expresses the connectedness factor.

Regarding the car, my spirit guidance symbolizes me as a car quite often.  They also often symbolize me as a house.  The kind of car, the color of the car, the people and/or things that appear in a car or house, symbolize what's blocking me. For example, if I find myself trying to drive a car from the back seat and another person sits in front of me in the driver's seat,  the personality aspect of this person that stands out, is the personality aspect that is limiting me and that I need to pay attention to.


identcat wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 7:37pm:
R--- you made me smile!  
When I have experienced my "I/There" I too was fully awake.  I have seen many of my "selves" over the years.  My disc was represented by a totem pole pylon (how appropriate--- a gateway)with human bodies piled on atop the other.  I climbed up and up. Some of the arms of individuals were reaching out to me.  Faces were exposed.  I kept climbing up, without fear, but with great curiosity.  
A mustang is reliable. White is cleansing.  Chinese are wisdom.  You have wonderful qualities in your I/There. A little humor  also because the mustang was an automobile--- meaning self propelled!  Thank you for sharing.  Happy adventures to you. Carol Ann

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Reply #19 - May 23rd, 2008 at 8:02pm
 
Yes--- I understand that aspect of the back seat.  Of course, each "dream" will only symbolize a specific representation to the "seer" only. 
For example, I very often have dreams with water in them.  For some persons, water is a fear. For myself, I love water and feel a freedom with water. When I use to swim 1/4 mile in the pool, I was in a meditative state and my physical body was no longer feeling any physical sensations. I was fully in spirit while swimming.
   One dream had me swimming with an alligator and two children.  When I researched in my Animal Speak book--- an alligator represented the mother instinct in me. 

Keep those C1's coming.  Happy "dreams" and ob's to you.
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Reply #20 - May 23rd, 2008 at 8:10pm
 
For me, water has mainly been used as a cleansing symbol. Sometimes my guidance will show me my kitchen sink, and by the number of dishes in it I could tell how much cleansing is needed. For a while they'd show me clean sink with nothing to be cleansed. Now they don't tend to show me the symbol.  Nevertheless, I do have some limitations to overcome.

For fear, they've showed me a dog. Not that I'm horrified by dogs, but if I'm walking down the street and see one coming my way, I'm likely to cross the street. There have been times where they would have a little puppy block my path as if to say, "What in the heck are you afraid of?"

Good luck to you too.
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