Werner:

I don't believe that you'll have to reincarnate if you don't want to. The very fact of how you don't seem to want to, shows that you aren't attached to this World. I believe that people over do the attachment to this World business. Consider what near death experience people often say. For individual reasons, they have no interest in returning to the World.  They only do so because they have responsibilities such as families to take care of.

The main things each of us want is happiness, security, peace, knowledge and love.  While in this World we become confused about how to obtain these qualities. If a spirit moved on to the World of spirit and found these qualities, why would it be pulled back into the World? There is no way that this World has things to offer that the spirit World doesn't have to offer. Especially when it comes to love.

Some say that spirits get stuck earthbound for a while because of addictions. This may be so, but before a spirit gets to the point where it can reincarnate it would have to get over its addiction sufficiently enough so it could move on to the light and get the assistance it needs so it could consider another incarnation. Or in otherwords:
1. A person is addicted to something such as sex, drugs or alchohol while alive.
2. This person dies and energetically stays connected to the World because of his or her addiction.
3. This person, I mean spirit, becomes tired of being attached to the World, receives help from a spirit helper, and moves to a place in the spirit World where its addiction based energetics can be cleansed. Along with this cleansing process will be a life review which enables the spirit to understand why it became addicted while incarnated in a human body. Because this spirit is no longer encased within a body, it will be separated from the survival instinct, food drive, sex drive, chemical imbalances, hormonal influences, and the emotion producing chemicals the body includes. It will be free of the mental capacity limitations a nervous system imposes.  It will be free of the energetic limitations a body causes.
4. After a spirit completes the energetic cleansing and life review process, it will move to a higher level of the spirit World where it will be exposed to a level of love, happiness, peace, beauty and knowledge,  where earth based attachments will seem pale in comparison.  Therefore, whether or not a spirit reincarnates will be a matter of choice rather than requirement. Perhaps it will want to learn more lessons, or serve the light in some way.

I restate what I wrote on another thread. While in the spirit World we work with other spirits and share our lessons.  This negates the need for numerous incarnations.

I disagree,I think we have to come back here again and again,untill we get it right.What ever a man sows,so shall he reep.If a person kills someone or rapes and murders.and than confesses his sins,he is still not free to stay in the spirit world.because he has to come back to earth and experience what his vicdem felt when he or she was put through that experience.God is not mocked George

So recover,are you saying that we can go ahead and rape and murder,and when we get into the spirit world,we will be loved like someone who did not do these things and lived a good life,ok guys lets do it,god will bless us anyway,

George:

I believe it will be more of a matter of how a spirit judges itself. Imagine what it would be like to face the shame, guilt, remorse, and self dissapointment that comes when a spirit becomes honest enough to see how much harm it caused to others. When a spirit reaches this point, there will be no need for a higher level being to get involved with the judgment process. Some spirits probably get stuck for a while because somewhere inwardly they know better and they are afraid to go through the pain they will go through when they become honest with themselves.


george stone wrote on May 8^th, 2008 at 8:31pm:

2012 is the date that the Mayan Calendar gives us. The Mayan shamans we believe had great insights into the transformative power of the cosmos and they formulated a very precise calendar around this. December 21, 2012 is the end of a long cycle and those who really seem informed about the topic say there's nothing to fear. 2012 is about transition to a higher level of consciousness and spirituality, if this is true and I believe in it, should be welcomed with open arms, not feared. The earth will be directly aligned with the centre of the milky way galaxy which contains the transformative power of the cosmos. Those who resist may not make it in this life (but hey, you're spirit you never really die so don't worry) through due to the physical earth changes that come about as the earth comes into alignment with the milky way centre point.

The key is not resisting the chance to evolve and change for the better. If you go with the tide you'll be swept the right way. You can control it to a certain extent, if you have the right intention - then you have a path to ascension  

As for the question in the topic: yes I believe we do have an afterlife experience regardless of whether we reincarnate soon or not. Time doesn't really mean anything in the astral worlds, its only important from our linear time viewpoint in physical life so even if you have what seems like eons in spirit you could come back to earth or wherever in a few years after your last life. Atleast that's my understanding what from I've heard, read and dreamt 

Greetings!

Alan said:
"The Spins are what we perceive as time, time is an illusion there is only momentum "

The Spins!  I like that , I like the whole sentence, but I don't know why.  Maybe it is a rote (a la Monroe) for me.
Alan, would you, or anyone please talk about time as spin and momentum?

Bets