I don't believe there is a cut off date.  I believe the date 2012 is more of the beginning than it is the end.  I feel this is the date which begins the widespread knowledge of our true inner reality, our greater reality.  I believe it will also be the start of widespread contact with ETs, these ETs actually being later simultaneous incarnations of ourselves, or other aspects of our higher-selves/entity essences.  

I also believe that the ones who are not ready for this type of experience, or spiritually prepared for this new type of life, new type of world, may not survive the many natural cotastrophies which will occur, for unconsciously, on a more advanced level of consciousness, they will recognize their inablity to handle this experience and be drawn to a way out.  This last part is not as concrete in my mind as the former thoughts, however, but I do believe it to be a possibility.  

People will begin to see that their experiences are created by their thoughts and beliefs, they will become aware of their reality on other levels of existence, in other dimensions, they will become more aware of their inner being, their greater being, their higher self, and realize the true meaning of their existence.  This framework for spiritual evolution is biologically uncoded into our physical being, as it is in the physical universe as well.

Blink I'm smiling at your comments..some of us speaking of maybe a naive mindset, were waiting for a spaceship one time to take them away from this place...I think I know how they must have felt, but it speaks of a mindset desiring a quick fix spiritually..at the same time watching and waiting to see what happens at the dot of Jan.1st 2012, I suspect nothing will be noticeable that is not noticeable right now at this moment. down through the ages there have been here and there someone holding up a sign "this is the end."

2012 may just be another one of those "this is the end." maybe it's just that we be recognizing the only real constant around here is the changing of the times. inevitabley time marches on and we with it, somebody said go with the flow, that sounds good to me.

I do believe we already are experiencing the effects of a shift in consciousness versus waiting around for the shift to just happen. but as a believer in the 100th monkey theory, well, you and I tend to rub off on one another, must be a good thing.

I did a star trek simile mind merge with a friend and came back with his knowledge, according to him everything that's been said on this thread has truth to it, it's just that we are all busy doing personal interpretations which make it seem we contradict each other..not really. there seems to be enough "room" in the universe for all projections and scenarios and yes, opinions, to exist. according to my friend, I asked him what's ahead? concerning planetary upheavals and the shift in consciousness which includes the end of the Mayan calendar. What he said I've come to accept, that an undesignated number of shall we say, units of consciousness will slide into a new dimension of life habitat.

what that means in detail, I cannot say, but it sounded to me like he was saying one day you are living this life and everything is familiar, and you have your habitual activities and certain others you interact with as your basis. Next, in a twinkling of an eye, one day you wake up and everything "out there" is the same and the same people, everything is still familiar in your surroundings, but at the same time, there is this feeling that everything is new, shiny and bright. its like waking up after you've died, I suppose you could say, and here you are, but you say to yourself I know I was just dead. wow, another chance to live. how cool is that?

Don't forget only a part of us projects down here as a probe. not to confuse anyone. I've always known not all of myself is in physical location.

bets, I like Alan's Spins and momentums concept too. that Alan surprises me all the time, the things he comes up with! hug.

Way back in late 70's I didn't get much guidance but one day I remember I did receive a message regarding momentum. this momentum message was that I was in process of gathering momentum, within a time span. It had something to do with increasing energetic frequency of the body, of the mind, of all the bodies. Only in time of linear consequence could this action be done.
Each moment could be seen as a spin.  I see chakras very clearly as spinning objects, all spinning at a different rate, ascension is a process of a naturally occurring faster spin until all the chakras are in sync and this gathers the momentum. this just my theory, subject to change without warning!

as for reincarnation, I sincerely wish to revisit the 50's and sing for free on a street corner with my buddies. in harmony. we might make a record too.
Think I can't? I think I can. I think the history periods can be relived if desired.

as to people who have hurt someone without intentionally doing that, as R says, this life is a massive challenge for many, it's easy to go down the wrong track, then u end up retracing your steps and going all the way back and you know you'd have done it differently if you could have known then what you know now, these are not held accountable and judged but welcomed home even as the prodigal son was welcomed despite he had squandered everything. You could see it as PUL, in this analogy, No father in heaven would turn away from his son returning home.

the ones George is talking about, there are a few who intentionally did wrong..but just a few comparatively speaking in terms of the population of the entire Earth, these others are very few who inflict pain because they relish seeing their victims suffering. this is a particular severe dysfunction and these are the ones would put themselves in their own areas to bring suffering to themselves as they are needing to understand we are all one and what we do to another returns to us in like form eventually if we continue to act in perverted ways. Forgiveness can even reach these souls once they realize they have chosen the ways of death, instead of the ways of life.

the amazing thing about the human race is it's ability to be transforming itself and it's desire to find out what PUL really is. these yearnings are like substance of momentum manifesting.

love...nice thread...geez, got me spinning like  a top.

love

alan

Also, people please stop worrying about 2012 (Dec. 21st.) Nothing is going to happen, besides maybe contacts with aliens.. Let's just say we will know more about aliens, than we ever knew before.. But hell if, the world is going to end.. That is just retarded for God to do.. Why would God create life and than destroy it?

peace n' love

Thank you, Recoverer--
Also, Bob Monroe and Bruce Moen had peaceful contacts with higher intelligent beings: all positive and willing to help planet earth and it's beings.  My vote goes for the friendly encounter!!

Alan:

If friendly aliens are there to help us, why wouldn't they help us before the unfriendly aliens attack us?

If unfriendly aliens have it in mind to attack us and have the ability to do so, then I wonder why they haven't already done so.