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spirit of dad in mirror
Apr 14^th, 2008 at 7:49pm

Hi went to the spiritualist church sunday ,the medium came to me and said to me you have got a mirror upstairs and i said yes i have the mediun said when you look in that mirror your dad will show himself to you i was really excited about this knowing that i may see my dads spirit i have been looking in the mirror so far nothing has happened but i am going to keep looking until i see dad ,i love my dad so much i miss him terribly he was a wonderful ,loving funny man i will never forget hin ever ,the medium said so many other things about dad which was spot on it made my day love deanna

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blink Ex Member	Re: spirit of dad in mirror Reply #1 - Apr 16^th, 2008 at 7:58pm deanna, have you seen your dad's spirit yet? I believe that mirror gazing is an interesting activity, and I have tried it, but in a dark room, and it was a little strange. Anyway, I am interested to hear what you might discover. love, blink
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recoverer Super Member Offline Afterlife Knowledge Member Posts: 5027 Gender:	Re: spirit of dad in mirror Reply #2 - Apr 16^th, 2008 at 8:11pm I wonder if looking into a mirror is a good approach.
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Alan McDougall Super Member Offline Posts: 2104 South Africa Gender:	Re: spirit of dad in mirror Reply #3 - Apr 16^th, 2008 at 8:26pm deanna, I think this is called scyping/skyping, where the mirror must be misted up and you dont look directly into it but sideways until an image appears in the mist of the mirror. I will look it up and report back alan
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Reply #4 - Apr 16^th, 2008 at 10:50pm

Deanna dear,

I found it here is the correct method, I believe it really works with practice.

How to make a Scrying Mirror

by G.W. Fisler

Scrying does not have to be an expensive undertaking. The price of a lead crystal sphere is outside the price range that most of us are willing to pay. This is especially true for someone new to scrying who is not yet sure of success.

   Nostrodamas is credited with seeing the future in a bowl of water that was colored with ink. This and other low tech methods are ideal for someone who wants to try his hand at scrying without a heavy investment.

   The method that I prefer is a scrying mirror. One of these can be constructed for less that five dollars. The first step is to buy a picture frame. An oval frame is ideal but any other shape is acceptable. Try to find a frame that has some aesthetic appeal for you. Frames may be found in many of the “dollar stores” that seem to be popping up
everywhere. The frame must have a glass insert and not a plastic one. Now on to the construction.

   First, disassemble the frame. Clean one side of the glass with your “Scrying Mirror Cleaning Solution” (i.e. Windex). Paint this side with a thick black paint. Oil based enamel seems to work best. I prefer the gloss black but matte black will work well also. Apply several coats of paint until light will not pass through the glass.

   At this stage you may paint designs or symbols around the edge of the frame if you are artistically inclined. If not there is a variety of frames with designs already on them. The choice is yours.

   Next, assemble the frame with the painted side of the glass to the inside. The thicker the plate of glass, the “deeper” the mirror will appear.

   A method is needed to hold the frame at a shallow angle to the vertical. Some frames have a leg on the back that will do nicely. Trimming the bottom of the leg will adjust the angle. An alternate method is to use one of the display stands that are used for collector plates. Varying the size of the stand will increase or decrease the angle of the frame. These are available at craft stores or those stores where “America shops”.

   An alternate method of constructing a scrying mirror is to use a clear crystal plate. Paint the back side as described for the picture frame. With this method I recommend covering the painted portion with felt or some other heavy material. This will help protect the paint from being scratched
or scuffed off.

Go into the bathroom mist the mirror and look at it at an angle until the vision appears. But you can do it in any location without misting, preferably in a darkened room with enough light to view the vision when it appears

   You are now ready to begin scrying. Good luck and clear visions!

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Reply #5 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 7:26am

The method I used called for a completely dark room, no light whatsoever. I didn't actually ask for helpers during this activity, which might have been reassuring.

I had to overcome my initial instinctive fear while looking into the mirror because I felt little afraid in this kind of isolation. However, I had several very positive, interesting experiences this way. Nothing negative actually happened to me. In fact, upon completion of what I considered a successful trial I had the impression that I had received some very loving energy.

Of course, after being at this site for a while, it is clear to me that it is actually unnecessary to use any props at all in order to have an experience. But, why not, if you feel like using a different method?

I look at it as one big experiment. At least this is a place where you can freely report your experiences rather than trying to explain them to people who don't understand what you are doing.

love, b

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Reply #6 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 1:02pm

This morning I received a message about Deanna and Juditha. Before they read it, they should realize that it was symbolic, not literal. I was told that they are getting their legs cut off. I didn't receive any more information, but I got the feeling that some of the mediums they speak to might be giving them false information.

I believe there are some genuine mediums, but it hard to know if the mediums you are speaking to are trustworthy. Perhaps Deanna and Juditha should trust their own resources rather than what a medium says.

To tell you the truth, whether it works or not, it seems to me that the mirror method is ridiculous. Probably right up there with ouija boards. I believe that Deanna and Juditha would be much better off to pray to God, Christ and the other beings of love and light that are assigned to help them, and be patient with the information they receive. If we become overly anxious and use questionable methods to figure things out, we might make a mistake.

Robbie, the kid for whom the movie the exorcist was loosly based upon, ran into problems after messing around with an ouija board. Other people have also run into problems playing around with ouija boards. The mirror method might be the same. Why in tarnation would a light being like Christ make contact with people through something such as an ouija board or mirror technique? It is much better to try to make contact through one's heart while feeling love and reverence. Be patient! Trust that the beings of love and light who look out for us will provide us with the information we need.

Trust Christ, not some freakin mirror technique.

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blink Ex Member	Re: spirit of dad in mirror Reply #7 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 1:56pm Why such fear-based thinking? There is no need for that, Recoverer. It is completely unnecessary, in my own personal opinion. Deanna and Juditha are capable of making their own decisions about what works for them, and when. However, that is all I will say on this subject, now and forevermore. b
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Reply #8 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 2:23pm

Blink:

I was in touch with divine guidance when I received the message. While receiving a series of messages I received the message about Deana and Juditha that I received. When you suggest that my thinking is fear based perhaps you are suggesting that my guidance is fear based. My guidance includes Christ. Are you suggesting that he is a fearmonger?

I believe that my guidance was being sensible. My feeling is that when one makes contact with divine guidance, one should do so with love, reverence and humility. If a divine being wants to make contact with us one will do so without resorting to something such as an ouija board or mirror technique. When one takes part in such a technique one tries to force the issue. Should divine guidance be required to respond to such efforts? Who knows who might answer instead.

Deanna and Juditha draw strength from the fact that they have love, reverence and faith for God and Christ. Their feet are firmly planted on the ground when they turn to such divine guidance. If they get involved with something such as a mirror technique which could lead them to making contact with just about any spirit, they allow their legs to be cut off.

You can tell from my posts on other threads that I don't believe in satan based demons. This doesn't mean that there aren't any unfriendly spirits who try to deceive people. It is quite naive and uninformed to suggest that there aren't.

It isn't a matter of being afraid. It is a matter of being discriminitive.

If you believe that nobody should make suggestions to Deanna and Juditha, then perhaps you should delete all of your responses to them and hope that they don't listen to the mediums they speak to.

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Why such fear-based thinking? There is no need for that, Recoverer. It is completely unnecessary, in my own personal opinion.

Deanna and Juditha are capable of making their own decisions about what works for them, and when.

However, that is all I will say on this subject, now and forevermore.

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Reply #9 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 2:34pm

Recoverer, this isn't even Juditha's thread. I responded to it because Deanna's question was ignored for days. Now you suddenly develop an interest in it, so that you can tell these sisters and anyone else who is reading it that your guidance warns them both in a graphic way that Christ is the answer. Of course you have the right to an opinion, but anyone can see that your opinion holds an extreme bias within it.

There is no reason why you cannot suggest that turning to Christ for an exchange of love and guidance from the heart is a good idea. I would never tell you that is not true.

However, I think that planting these kinds of negative images in their minds is questionable, whether you received them from "guidance" from Christ or otherwise. It is also obvious that your reply was not well-considered. There was an emotional residue contained in it.

These are not accusations. Just observations.

But, this thread is not about you. It is about mirror gazing, and contained an element of curiosity that I believe should not be trampled upon. So I'm done. Really, I'm completely done.

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Reply #10 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 2:53pm

Blink:

Forever more.

Deanna and Juditha:

All I can say is that before I make contact with spirit guidance, I always pray to God and Christ. It does not insult my sensibilities to reach out to them. I've had a number of experiences that let me know that Christ is there for me. It is up to you to decide whether Christ loves you so much, he asked another person to pass a message to you. Nobody is trying to cause you to be afraid. I am just letting you know that Christ is so much there for you, you don't have to rely on some method passed on by a medium.

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Reply #11 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 3:31pm

Oh, I guess you're right, Recoverer. I must not be done yet.

Beautifully said, what you just said. That would have been perfect. Except that the bias is still there. "Some method" given by a medium.

Are you sure that you interpreted this message correctly? It seems to me that if you had just transmitted THE MESSAGE (I am not yelling but cut out all the interpretation and what do you have?) without the biased interpretation, we could have avoided this entire discussion.

If you will notice, a good medium does not try to interpret the message the way that you did for another. They simply extend THE MESSAGE to the other. That is loving. To interpret THE MESSAGE the way that you did needlessly and pointlessly insults another human being whom you do not know.

It is very difficult for me to say such things to you so directly, but I urge you to use caution. The only reason I have continued here is because I can see very clearly that you are trying so very hard to do the right thing and to communicate effectively.

So stop talking about it and do it.

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Reply #12 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 4:20pm

well hmm. I love Blink and R both, and sisters Juditha and Deanna, as budding intuitives, or we could call them budding sensitives and leave off the tainted connotations surrounding the word itself Mediums.

We are all Mediums. In that we can all receive our own guidance and messages, in so many different ways. One of my best friends uses tarot cards. It's not the Tarot itself that speaks. it's the frame of receptive mind which taps into the answers each of us has access to.

If I can draw these two opposing viewpoints together a bit. maybe I'll try. When my friend pulls out her deck of cards she is merely preparing her mind to collect some data. Whatever she receives will be colored by her own mind.
There will be protection from negative entities if the medium ask for protection, and also for the highest good to occur here.
Using a mirror, or skyping is a bit like preparing the mind to concentrate on being receptive.
So, in his way, R is saying just be careful and ask for the highest good to occur.

For instance Deanna, your father may not be available to come at the same instance that you ask him to come. He might be busy, but if on the 3rd time you try it, he may come.

Since you have a PUL bond with your father, you will automatically know in your heart if he has come or if it is a trick of some passing entity. Since you are studying mediumship, you may try a lot of different techniques as you go along and so R is being a worry wart again. Yet he is saying something fundamentally true that the girls will not be needing a mirror someday, it is just a method right now, in order to get to the realization that they no longer need to skype.

I hardly think that legs being chopped off is a fitting image to give these young girls though, just from looking into a mirror. I admit I get frightened myself looking at my own image in the mirror, but the point is it can be used also to concentrate mind energies and come to the conclusion, YES! we CAN talk to our family members on the other side and we can do that using any method we wish.

I mean, that's gruesome R.

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Reply #13 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 4:34pm

hi Deanna, I personaly don't think it wise to stare to long into a mirror. I think it tends to introvert a person. No offence ment by this ... I don't think that you or your sister need any help in introversion. You are both great people but I see a tendancy to look for the reasion for everthing. Sometime you just don't need to know. Look outwards and you will see what you need to see. Now is still the same church that you have been going to for so long? I have said it before and I will say it again. There are some in this church that are not looking out for you and your sisters best interests. By always looking inwards you may do yourself more damage than good.You will find you Dad in your heart and by expressing your love for him. Not in a mirror.
All my love to the All of you
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Reply #14 - Apr 17^th, 2008 at 4:38pm

I just assumed the medium was playing a 'Zen' joke on Deanna - ie, look in the mirror and see your father, you know - your Father, your Real FATHER - by looking at yourself, seeing God in the form of Deanna.

Afterall, the human father, much as one may love him (or pehaps in some cases, not) may have been at one time a son, brother, husband, or many other variations in form. All those relations change and shift while Who remains the real Father throughout it all?

Besides,
wouldn't it be easier and simpler to just look at a photograph of him?

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