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Reply #30 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 11:14pm
 
oh I understand now Alan. That's quite a journey you took. Sometimes I don't know whether it's you talking or somebody else's material. so thanks for clarifying.

I'm kinda glad you made it here, to us.  Smiley  I think I prefer being a child of the sun, then a child of the crescent moon though.

I'm a little stubborn and easily confused. love to you, alysia
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Reply #31 - Apr 21st, 2008 at 7:38am
 

    Hi All again and so the message continues” 14            
     
I am the Author and write the story of existence and creation on the fabric of eternal infinite light    

I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I speak to you by my watchers above the moon.

I am the Painter and paint existence and creation on the fabric of infinite eternal light I  am “HE”


I am the first song I am music I write the song of existence, I want you all to come together and dwell in my mind. The white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat.          
     
The watchers your personal angelic guides are watching over the forum of humanity to bring about a group mind. Those in the narrow black belt will be very significant.              
     
Beings from within the universal light view planet earth, the winter of the three second man has come and into the vast void they must migrate, and the earth revert to original beauty in a future time on the horizon not far. The end is not the end but the beginning of cosmic humanity.              
     
The watchers watch, the watchers watch and plan your exit.              
     
     
The beginning of the beginning and all creation is but the twilight of a new dawn. We the Initiators tell humanity that you are creatures of a twilight zone and all you have accomplished is but a dream of your new awakening.            
     
Now in a new future day, in the unending succession of days you will migrate out into the void of light and dark. Arise and see the dawn listen to the sounds of rain, rivers, wind, white water and seas. For the long nights of travail will really end.            
     
We within the shimmering light the Watchers look at “ultimate humanity, surrounded them by a glow of our eternal light, and answered their questing with feelings of pure love.            
     
How beautiful all life beings blended as if they became one with the Great Ones. Moreover, as they did, every single unique soul began to chant with the same feeling, 'I can feel how beautiful you are Oh! God. How blissful to love you'            
     
     
We the Messengers remember well our contemplation, pondering on how to best serve humanity through the ages. We fashioned out of thought the sword of flame which has been with us all through the eons since, and which is used to cut the souls of men free from the shackles of the wrongs of their creation.          
     
We come with hope from shimmering light realms beyond the universe, which is or self-chosen home. We move as great eyes roaming the planes of existence as messengers of the Divine.            
     
He "The Great One" fashioned the Sword of Flame by thought, for he knew that there would come a time when the souls of men would require more than the energies of their own "lifestreams" to cut themselves free from the shackles and creations into which they weave their wrong energies.            
     
It is a Sword of Redemption, a Sword of Hope, a Sword of Freedom, and when the last soul has passed over the bridge into eternal Light, when the last book of record has been closed and sealed, when the Ascension of the last "lifestream" is completed, and every tiny electron that is presently functioning in distorted form is again redeemed and returned to the Source- that Sword will be no more.!          
     
A journey into a far country is near, that country is the future.          

Mortal humanity will have to exit a bursting world and migrate out into the vastness of the universe


Through unification of all human souls on planet Earth, a new giant life form, holding a much bigger spirit within the souls of humans is going to emerge. 'The ultimate beautiful Mandala of human beings'          
     
You, the entire humanity, are going to proceed with it. After the unification process with each other, you humans on Earth are going to make the main evolutionary step, the ultimate one as individual humans. You are going to bond with a greater, enormous universal soul until you make the final merging with the “Infinite One”        
     
Multitude cannot exist without its oneness and oneness cannot exist without determination by multitude.          
     
Something of enormous significance will happen before the American spring merges with summer.          
     
”However, let not deception rule your hearts for truly not all is well with mortal man, babies cry mothers and the innocent die. The earth is troubled, traumatized and in travail and we agonize with all”.        
     
"We stand together in the wildest places of the earth and form a forest of hands against the black sky, stretching up, reaching for what is ours to take yet never to attain. Our bodies begin to pulsate to a subliminal rhythm and we feel the imminence of contained energy, soon to be released. Sing songs that resonate the ancient names. I Invoke the helpers/initiators/watchers and the Great Eye as they come to you, they are strangers with the eyes of men."        
   
     
The growth and development of a great cosmic body that is carrying in her womb the growth and development of a final soul, providing the environment and experience necessary for a gateway back to the “Source”.        
     
This will allow any being from any species and on any frequency spectrum to incarnate learn what it truly means to be in the image of God. Loving, caring, compassionate, understanding, tolerant and so on it goes, all of the qualities that make up and constitute a human being.  A harmonious blend between the physical and spiritual.        
     
The metamorphosis that you and your beloved planet are currently going through has already been experienced by other greater beings. These beings of composite light are not perfect and the agreement for them to incarnate at this critical stage has been granted under their request so that they may lead by example and take responsibility to right their wrongs of their past. Just like mortal man.        
     
These more developed souls also known as Ascended Masters are not to be worshipped. Repeat, are not to be worshipped. Just respected and understood.        
     
     
Standing on the bare ground, bathed by the blithe air, and uplifted into infinite space, all mean egotism vanishes. We become a transparent and vanish – We are nothing! I AM that sees all; the currents of the Universal Being circulate through us. We all are part or parcel of God.        
     
Moving into mystic light the evolved promoted soul, at last reaching its final incarnation and beautiful state, “expands to infinity” and becomes one with the Divine composite Mind, knowing everything.      
     
When reaching this state of absolute the vast horizon before you becomes limitless time, past, present. Future all merge into "ONE” and you become God, and yet at the same moment remain the minutest quantum particle, incredible and contradictory as this seems to you confined now in material bodies.  Entire existence, the universe and all are blazing grids of soul mandals of infinite multi colored lights spreading out into infinity...      
     
Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s    
 
We become "Omega Point" again  
 
Reach the Ocean vast and deep beyond understanding,    
 
 
Like a vast tide, Being will have engulfed the shifting sands of being, within a now tranquil Cosmic Ocean of inter-connectedness  
 
Like a mirror polished to give a perfect reflection of the Sun, all those apparently separate rays of consciousness would know themselves to be the same “Eternal Light”.  
 
"Now we can at last create a New Reality"      
   
And our spirit moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light    
   
The great wheel of existence turned to a new creation. The golden infinite Sun rose out from the limitless plane at omega point of nothingness    
   
Now all things will reach zero non-dimensional nothing and only new something is now possible , indeed we are "Omega Point" again    
   
   
A new dawn in the everlasting ever turning wheel of life, existence and creation begins to revolve by the hand of the Ultimate One. Shackles of learning are thrown off as all knowledge amalgamated into one unimaginable vast new Oneness of all particles containing life. Then there was "THOUGHT” Now together we must begin again making better than before and the light split into infinite fragments of blinding incomprehensible beauty.    
 
I AM the never resting ceaseless eternal creator I never stop creating. "I AM" also the everlasting sustainer of all things.    
   
"Know this all souls are eternal having no beginning and no end".    
 
You were distributed and spread out by countless rivers of forgetfulness into realms, planes and dimensions of the infinite cosmos, for a purpose of progressing by learning, so that you might become co creators with the Divine.    
 
Successful souls come back through countless rivers of memories to merge with the "Final higher Self", assimilating into the Super-consciousness again.  Nothing can be destroyed or added to existence, which is the building block of creation.    
   
Failed souls that have done wrong will be banished for a while or converted to mindlessness and regenerated, successful souls will retain their unique awareness within the infinite cosmic mind. Together all become the final MIND" and "THOUGHT" at the "Omega Point". So We the Omni-Being all-powerful, We just have to. Think" do this and it is done, do that and it is done.  Continue this and it continues, stop and it stops, create this and it is created. Sustain and it is sustained.    
   
Coming back to original, "Thought” you must cross the countless rivers of memory and know all things again before new knowledge are added...    
   
Let us create new man. "It was the first day of order in the new creation" all old things will pass away into the darkness. The great journey into ever better new realities must continue to progress forever.    
   
"GREAT FATHER SPIRIT" moved upon the void of new nothingness and said to the dark. “Let there be light”        
   
The "Lord" formed us from his being and substance us in the beginning of his works, before all else, at the "Alpha Point"    
   
When "HE" set the heavens in their place, we were there, before he made    
the earth, We are his darling children and played the creation game, in    
eternal joy with him. We will become was his craftspeople and his companions and    
delight. Wisdom and word is our names and we were with him before creation began    
other creation.  .    
   
We together with mighty superstrings we weaved together  colossal    
strands of energetic light colored in beautiful magnificent    
opalescence into the very fabric of reality and a new unimaginably    
beautiful realities will be born in glory and delight.    
   
We will sing the song of creation together as new existence began to    
vibrate with countless frequencies of light, glory translucent and    
everlasting with the vibrations of the song of creation. The singer    
sang the song, the painter the painting, the creator the creation.    
   
 
The Great Amalgamated "Soul Thought/Mused for a brief moment and "perceived" within its colossal "MIND" a new reality and said let us create existence again.  
   
"Thus came the first perception" which is glorious pure light  
 
"If something" is not "perceived' by anything it does not exist"    
 
"Perception is the building blocks of existence and creation"  

If we are the only existing ONE OR ONES then we perceive ourselves or self from within our minds /thoughts. "God THE EVER EXISTING ONE" perceives himself regardless and everything emanated from this “SOURCE”

The highest realm of existence

Everything is now God’s imagination. Without it, nothing would exist. When a soul finally reunites with “Source”, it retains a certain amount of its individuality yet is still in complete harmony with all other thought beings. The Godhead is an ever-expanding energy force and each returning spirit, having achieved that degree of fineness, breadth of thought and understanding, adds to the infinity of experience within the Godhead. The spirit itself continues to expand into infinity complete harmony and oneness until it finally merges into such greatness that there are no words to describe it.

This is a spectacular dimension! Iridescent rivers of sound bounded by rainbow shores of pulsating light. Thoughts appear as kaleidoscopic patterns of light and sound. You walk across fields of ideas of knowledge and understanding. Under a sparkling crystal sky of inspiration. When you enter this final realm, do not try to rationalize or understand it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation

All realms exist in the same space, and yet remain separate and distinct by the vibration or frequency of consciousness, which forms each realm. We are everywhere and everywhen at the same moment, time and space are no more.

“The tree that falls unperceived makes no sound”

Danger comes from the crescent moon.
Within the primeval moment, I awoke alone in the infinite darkness.
I was mind and original thought and mused what was I.

“I am” god said I in my imagination, the prime mover.

There was nothing but "I" then in the lonely dark.
My lonely heart cried out to the infinite night
And I began to imagine creation and eternal companions.

"Let there be light" I spoke
And there was light in the void of everlasting darkness

From my imagination, I created all things in beauty and light
And was pleased by my mighty effort
A new creation began again out of the chaos of the previous
In this new creation darkness is banished forever

I am first awareness
I am mind
I am thought
I am imagination
I am light
I am everything

I imagined in my mind humanity
And created man in my image ("imagine-man")
I perceived my handwork and was pleased.
The ever-repeating journey began again  
"We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively





   Any comments?    
   
Love    
alan  
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Reply #32 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:59am
 
lol, u'r still working it Alan! Smiley

you said:  Everything that can be imagined will be imagined or has been imagined by man is a reality out there in the vast somewhere.
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this reminds me of the story below; how fictional characters created by another came alive for his partner; its something to ponder about our creative natures working with creative thought elements. I am forced to consider I am a thought of God, and live and move within and have my being by the grace of God.  grace is an entirely new subject. we will probably unravel that rote sometime in life, each in his own time.
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The Exploration (not done on AKC, this from another forum group)

Okay, now I know this sounds incredibly far fetched. I'm still not entirely sure whether to believe it or not, but its just so incredible that I almost dont care.

I'm posting this with my friend Spectral Dragon's permission. He was the one who actually did the exploration since I can't project yet. I merely helped orient him towards the details of the various worlds. He wants me to post thsi instead of him since it will add more validity.

Anyway, one night I was over at Spectral Dragon's house. We were both discussing thought-forms, and I came up with the idea for him to try and explore the section of the astral where the world from a fantasy series I'm writing might be contained. Well, he was successful. It turns out that particular section of the astral connected to a whole other physical universe, with its own creator.

Spectral traveled down to the world of my story, looking for the various cities and characters. Much to my shock, he was able to confirm details of this world that I had not yet revealed, such as geographical details, hidden ruins and future developments. For instance, he discovered an island in one of the oceans containing a transdimensional bubble, an aspect of my world I had taken ardous measures not to reveal. He was able to find my characters, and accurately describe their looks and personality, still finding details I hadn't yet mentioned. Furthermore, he was even able to talk to some of them. He had a long conversation with a dragon I had yet to introduce and a powerful female spirit.

The female spirit and other gods watching over this particular solar system were quite surprised by his presence, but knew what was going on, since travelers can pass between universes. They even asked him to spar a particular person. Smiley One of the most interesting aspects of this world though, was the fact that it had already moved on several decades past the time my story took place, even though I'm still writing it. It wasnt just a subjective realm creating in the astral by my imagination, it had its own tangible existance.

My jaw keeping falling ever closer to the floor as he continually confirmed details of my universe. After that we investigated several other fictional worlds such as the Wheel of Time, the Shannara series and Final Fantasy 9. Spectral found that the world of FF9 is much bigger than shown in the game, which was to be expected.

Both of us were utterly amazed by when we finally finished. Seeing evidence of the actual existance of my universe made me sort of feel like a proud father. 

We both speculated as to what connection I might have with my story, as that universe had its own creator. The conclusion we came to, is that writers such as myself are actually channeling stories, especially the clear ones, but that furthermore, we are connected to these higher Gods on a level beyond time and space, and thus the ideation that brings worlds into existance is a co-creation of sorts.

After talking over this, I found that my vision of this story seems to have strengthened. It was very inspiring. Has anyone else had any experiences such as this?
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alysia's comment: the key word to concentrate on here to unravel a rote is "co-creation."

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Reply #33 - Apr 29th, 2008 at 7:10pm
 
Alysia, Ahh!! I perceive a incisive smart mind in you and you pick up so easily what I am trying to condense and summerise into as few a words as possible!!

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We both speculated as to what connection I might have with my story, as that universe had its own creator. The conclusion we came to, is that writers such as myself are actually channeling stories, especially the clear ones, but that furthermore, we are connected to these higher Gods on a level beyond time and space, and thus the ideation that brings worlds into existance is a co-creation of sorts
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Yes, this states exactly what I was trying to define in my own way. All those fantasy Sci-fi movies that seem so absolutely far-fetched are realities channeled unknowingly by the author.

It is exactly my point we simply cannot imagine something that is an impossibility. Out there in the great "somewhere", "somehow" and "somewhen" everything exists as concrete realities in the Super consciousness, Cosmic Mind, Universal Mind call it what you will.

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When and if we imagine something that is not contained in the Super- consciousness then we are Gods and Co-creators. This might appear nonsensical to you. Well google the almost infinitely infinitesimal smaller internet (“Smaller than what I call the Super-consciousness) on nearly any subject and you are very likely to find someone has already thought up on the subject you where researching.


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Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s


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Now a vast Super-consciousness of countless dimensions planes and degrees that contain every thought deed, word, everything that has happened will reveal to you that everything in creation is one huge interconnected “Whole” of all life in creation. All things are possible now to your new awareness’s


If you reread the extracts from my thread you will see I was just saying the same sort of thing in my own unique way

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Reply #34 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 3:17pm
 
hmm Alan..u certainly are a spring loaded mystic..not bad, but I'm not finished commenting on your first post...! take it easy on me.  Smiley  you did a double quote above; it shows you are running on high octane and need to come back and get us.

I read feelings here, the energy signature. glad u got something out of my post. (it was someone else's work, I reiterate, not my own but I resonate with it too.)

to simplify, due to I don't want to sit here all day, your remarks remind me of a Beatles tune "nothing you can do that can't be done, nothing you can say ain't been said..."

then I've always believed thoughts are things. that thought has form. that thought is energy taking form. this may be the reason we try to figure out what God is, and can't, because we are trying to put God into a form, which is 3 dimensional thinking.

as to your vision listed at the bottom of your last post, I only take exception to the part that says God is a separate mind. Rather, I look upon humanity existing within the Mind as mind. Mind would be God, using the capital letter M, the individual would me lower case letter of m.

but I agree that we are God's creations and we will ultimately consolidate into Oneness of the new cycle.

I don't want u to be terrified as you expressed it. I think being terrified is something we do to ourselves because of all we don't "know." the unknown is often scary, but it looks all good from where I'm standing, whats on our plate.
Again, within duality a separation is an appearance of separation. We cannot be separated from what loves us. Love is the only absolute, from my perception at present. Appearances are another subject, and has to do with limited perception capabilities.
PUL is expansion principle to widen what is narrow.

to open what is closed.
God we make in our image. it's true, God is not how we "want" him to be Yet if we "want" to see God, consistently enough, it is more than possible to see God truly, then we will slip into the super consciousness area you're talking about.
Desire and intention are missing from your dialogue, just adding my 2 cents.

Point 3 of your vision (wow!) about having access to the divine, to my pov is basically stop seeing yourself as separate from God. u mentioned we have access on God's terms and conditions, the way I see this is through surrender to God's will.

Perhaps this has to do with a yearning to return to God. I do believe the ego can and does resist returning to God, but if u look, you can notice, there is a yearning running throughout mankind now to return to God, or manifest the heaven on Earth concept, would maybe be the same idea, as finding a better way than what has gone before.

the 4rth point is like the thoughts are things idea. it's a little like the life review we do upon transition. according to mystics this life is shown in vivid detail, the smallest action of kindness is shown how that manifested in our afterlife area as a marked advancement to the sum total of humanity, I mean how it might have rebounded and multiplied our good, here or there.

I don't think anything is eternal which is dark and heavy. PUL is eternal, but I don't see evil as anymore eternal than a shadow is when light approaches.

A lie cannot be the truth at the same time. but I think I know what u r driving at. In that both negative and positive thoughts can manifest in our 3 dimensional areas. In that case, the choice is ours.

the dimensions of dark and light you saw I would conjecture as belief system territories, where all can gravitate to where they fit in best, in the afterlife, these were called many mansions in my Father's Home in the bible.

the movie is almost played out?  Smiley thats darn good news Alan, as I'm getting tired of sitting here in the theater seat.

number 8 and 2 is the same concept. no matter how we try, God is too large to fit into a human form. so what I see u saying, is the same thing as I gave up trying to do, find the edges of infinity. It is impossible. I think your thoughts also must be taken in chunks, chewed on, savored, digested slowly.

# 9 of the vision humanity is a concept from God's mind and thoughts I agree, and this is why we are not separate from God, and this is why I say the individual is a thought of God.

I'd just take it a little further, it's good to be alive as an individual when we share our oneness and gratitude with each other here on this forum, so then we know we are found in that PUL and not alone and not separate if all together we can conceive we are this God thing also.

Alan, on a personal note, what else did you "feel" during this vision? All I say you typed out you were terrified. I think it was more feelings than that. being an empath, that's what I want to hear about if you could tell me. love to you!
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Reply #35 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 4:10pm
 
Alysia,

I very much appreciate your analysis and critique of my mystical message. You are one smart lady and miss nothing.

I humble state that I just like the rest of us presently mere mortal I  am fallible and open to learning from others like you who are so well informed on mystical topics.

Yes I am very much an empath and feel the pain sorrow and terrer of others. The feeling in the vision was one of absolute desolation hopelessness and despair of eternal separation from God. Of course this might have come from the fears of my own subconsciousness

PUL is the only eternal thing and that is what I meant when I wrote dark and light must separate forever. Perhaps I should have written dark will be banished forever.

When I wrote we are Gods creation and we are separate souls within the infinite being , I meant it in the sense of that we are separate atoms of awarenesses withing the great ocean of awareness that we call GOD

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Reply #36 - Apr 30th, 2008 at 6:59pm
 
oh thats much clearer to me now Alan. Your heart is wide open, is probably why you felt such intense desolation. u will come out of it ok. I feel this.

My mother had a similar sort of happening, just to comfort you, others can feel too much too and it can be terrifying, although I think I'm not afraid of anything anymore, perhaps if I get over confidant God would strike me with something to put me in my place..never know!

heres what happened to mom. Jimmy my brother was involved in the war of Viet Nam as a sargeant. he saw atrocities I won't post. Jimmy was always my mom's favorite kid, they were inseparable. Every nite she would pray for his safety and pine for him.  but still she was in terror for him daily.
So one day she wanted relief from her sorrow and decided to make a deal with God. I don't know why, she always thought she could make deals with God. just the way she is. So she said I will stop smoking if you save his life. (she did stop smoking and he did come home) however, she dreamed one night that God spoke to her in a terrifying voice booming out he said YOU THINK YOU SUFFER?
HERE, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT IM SUFFERING AS GOD!

She said the grief and sorrow was totally overwhelming every part of her being, and she felt such humility that her suffering was so small in comparison to God's suffering.

well, it's just a dream you could say. since God is not a person. However, maybe she was then tuned into the grid of the entire world's suffering, all the mothers and sons combined?

at any rate she was changed into better person, and she even kept her deal with God because of this experience. I never want to go what she went through that time, but suffering makes a person a diamond in some cases, or at least gets some of the rough edges off of us.

I hope u don't mind my teasing you once in awhile, I do like your posts, I just have trouble reading them when they are so long.

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Reply #37 - May 2nd, 2008 at 1:40am
 
Alysia,

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She said the grief and sorrow was totally overwhelming every part of her being, and she felt such humility that her suffering was so small in comparison to God's suffering.

well, it's just a dream you could say. since God is not a person. However, maybe she was then tuned into the grid of the entire world's suffering, all the mothers and sons combined
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That was no dream; your dear mom dreamed a reality that few really know about.  God suffers with his creation and because of his creation. Are we not just children to God like your brother was to your mom who loved her precious child now in mortal danger and empathized so closely with his terror and horror of war?

Yes and how much more closely does God experience our pain, sorrow and despair? I was lead to pray for God and this was met with distain by Christian friends who stated God is omni-everything and does not need mere mortal to play for him/her. How the hek! Do they know this, so I just continue to pray for our beloved God and get blessed by this action?

Yes how much more closely does God experience our pain, sorrow and for this altruistic act of mine.

One of the awful terrors I experienced that was so similar was that of us sentient beings driving God insane by our non-stop misuse of his divine gift of life to us. Now this might sound right off the wall, but if we are a fragment or part of God and this consolidated fragmentation can lose it so to speak, the essence we can God could go amok.  What would happen to existence if this happen, THE ULTIMATE HORROR?

Now all these fundamentalist sects and hosts of other off the wall lunatic fringe cults erect huge Prayer Towers and gather in millions and pester God day and night with a cacophony of impossible nonsense. Why for heavens sake God knows everything before your ask? this pestering upsets our beloved Father Spirit from whom we all originate.

OH !! Dear I  have at last found a place to express this deep knowledge to someone and hope it makes some sense and does not just come over as convoluted nonsensical conjecture.

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Regarding whether God suffers, one night I had a series of experiences where I was being shown some of the unpleasant things God or Christ (probably both) have to experience, because some people and beings keep creating experiences within their realm of experience that are unpleasant to experience.

Both Howard Storm and George Ritchie explained during their NDE accounts about how unpleasant God and Christ find it when people and spirits do negative things. They wrote that it hurts them when they do such a thing.

What if any of us had a child we dearly love, this child did negative things, and we had to be aware of what this child does?

Somewhat similar, Bruce Moen wrote about how light beings start crying when spirits who made their way out of lower realm, end up going back to a lower realm because of the pull such a realm has on such spirits.

Other sources state that all of heaven rejoices when a spirit at a lower level ascends to a higher level.

I believe that some of us need to help elevate the consciousness level of this World, so God, Christ and other light beings don't have to witness the negativity some people and spirits create.

My feeling is that a being of love can never rest, as long as other beings are still suffering.

I must add that I've been shown in several ways that if a spirit wants to ascend to a higher level, it is free to do so.
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Reply #39 - May 2nd, 2008 at 7:50pm
 
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Regarding whether God suffers, one night I had a series of experiences where I was being shown some of the unpleasant things God or Christ (probably both) have to experience, because some people and beings keep creating experiences within their realm of experience that are unpleasant to experience.

Both Howard Storm and George Ritchie explained during their NDE accounts about how unpleasant God and Christ find it when people and spirits do negative things. They wrote that it hurts them when they do such a thing


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Alan is this your own stuff?  Smiley
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Alysia,

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Alan is this your own stuff?


Only the wordings 'Sword of Redemption' is from a different source (worshipers of the Ach -angel Michael) I borrowed this wording from them to avoid using the word Christ as it would seem I would be pushing Christianity. I believe Christ and Michael could be the same Being as Michael means “He who is Like God”, and who is more like God than Christ? This sword who in my mind is the sword of flame preventing access the Garden of Eden, sword of Hope, and of everlasting freedom.

This is sourced exclusively from within my mind. I have long used the “Term Monad” to indicate beings existing in different dimensions with different degrees of consciousness or awake- ness or asleep- ness. We are just dreams to monads on a lower dimension of reality and our reality is just a dream to those on a higher vibration of existence, all the way up to Source and unfortunately all the way down.

The rest comes from inspiration from within the antic of my strange poetic mind,” why do you doubt my ability to construct such a message or does the whole thing just go over as nonsensical conjecture

Believe me my mind has gone to much much more stranger places than this message, such as being absorbed into existence, infinity, absolute nothingness, eternity, what was there before this existence, when god was alone A loneness so unimaginable, so unspeakably incomprehensible.

By my empathizing with God for a brief moment resulted in my being hospitalized. I am and always have been insatiably curious about everything and my life outside that of my profession has been one long search for meaning and understanding what most people take for granted

There are many things I could still share with the forum, but I will play it by as it comes. To show you that I am what I say I am, go back a few pages and see my remarkably accurate remote viewing of forum members who are all complete strangers to me separated by thousands of miles. Or go to Kevin Williams near death site and you will see I predicted/prophesied both Hurricane Katrina and the tsunami that killed a quarter of a million people.

I often wonder does the forum want only dialogue and is a genuine mystic come psychic not welcome. But I am fallible and human just like the rest of you and make mistaked and learn as I try to progess to a higher consciousness



Christ is the redeemer

If you want to tie me down as to what I am exactly I would say the best description of this entity that makes up “me” is that of a “Christian Mystic”. Christ is and remains the most powerful supernatural  genuine mystic to ever walk the earth,he is God Incarnated"

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Reply #42 - May 4th, 2008 at 11:02pm
 
Alan McDougall wrote on May 4th, 2008 at 3:26pm:
[color=#000000]Alysia,

[quote]Alan is this your own stuff?


Only the wordings 'Sword of Redemption' is from a different source
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Me:this explanation dearlite, above is truly all that I was asking for.
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This is sourced exclusively from within my mind. I have long used the “Term Monad” to indicate beings existing in different dimensions with different degrees of consciousness or awake- ness or asleep- ness. We are just dreams to monads on a lower dimension of reality and our reality is just a dream to those on a higher vibration of existence, all the way up to Source and unfortunately all the way down.
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Me: Thats good. I also do believe we are just dreams all the way to Source and all the way down. and I'm sure my image of you is partially true and partially false.
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The rest comes from inspiration from within the antic of my strange poetic mind,” why do you doubt my ability to construct such a message or does the whole thing just go over as nonsensical conjecture
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sweetie, I explained above, I want to relate to YOU! I needed clarification about your material source is all so I can recieve your very own energy signature and get to know who ALAN is! we are both empathic.
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By my empathizing with God for a brief moment resulted in my being hospitalized.
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Me: Alan, you're here now. thats all that matters. that hospital stay was part of your journey planned before incarnation. You are still healing up from the effects of that, and seem to be well on your way to expressing yourself perfectly, at least to me.  Smiley I know a few people here have said some unkind things to you; I can assure you my own thought does not join with theirs concerning yourself.
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To show you that I am what I say I am, go back a few pages and see my remarkably accurate remote viewing of forum members who are all complete strangers to me separated by thousands of miles.
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yea, and so, ahem, where is your remote viewing of moi? huh?  Grin  yes, I read it and it seems quite authentic viewing. I have a sense of humor, so don't really expect you to view me. I want you to enjoy your stay here with us because the future is uncertain how long we will all be together here to share.
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I often wonder does the forum want only dialogue and is a genuine mystic come psychic not welcome.
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Me: Alan, who knows what the forum wants!?  I'm surprised actually you stuck around after the welcome you did NOT receive.  I can only speak for myself, what I want. and I asked you a question and you always answer me right away. so I got what I wanted. thats like incredible to me, as our questions here hardly ever get answered to our satisfaction, speaking personally of course.
so I deduced we come together in spite of that. thanks for hanging in with us! It ain't easy for any of us, during this thing I call a shift in consciousness. btw, when I post here, I see in my mind millions of faces, I'm talking to god, or I'm talking to the whole world when I'm here. Nothing I say or ask, should ever be taken to mean critisism or a judgment, and so don't take anything personally, and you'll know that I'm on your side that way. I'm sitting over here with a heart full of love for you, and for all the posters I talk to, and thats something I cannot really put into the typed word. I feel you understand me.
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I think I'm a Christian mystic too, although I'm beginning to think those kind of labels really mean, from another solar system not discovered yet perhaps. I think JC was so advanced in evolution this planet was not his point of origin, therefore, it's not mine either. Now, please just be yourself and don't jump to conclusions that I'm not wanting what you post. I just wanted to know all sources I can get, because I relate directly to those sources, and if you say that's from you, I believe it and frankly, you need to publish yourself. I mean in a book. However, I know that can get expensive. think about it, you could give your gift to the world this way.
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also, I like the way you sometimes put under your post "comments anybody?"

it always motivates me to join in. We seem to like invitations here.  Smiley
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Reply #43 - May 5th, 2008 at 12:51am
 
Alysia,

Thank you so much for taking the effort and time to explore, analyze and comment so fully and completely on my posts. They do really inspire me to continue in my pledge to reach high for the ultimate truth that is out there for all of us to grasp.

You will have noticed I take to heart your comments and act on them, such as removing population growth as mans primary threat and the aspect about terror, that served no purpose gives a negative connotation to the forum. I need critique like yours so that the message can become "that of the whole forum and not just from two sources", namely at time of writing you and me,

Your imprint is in the message by your positive contributions. The message will from now on not become longer, just edited, refined as inspirations moves the forum or me.

About remote viewing yourself, I can only perform this type of distant mind sight when I am inspired to do so. Something like a poet or painter having to wait for inspiration before beginning their creative works. I know you are aware of what I mean, as you are also a creative person and mystic like myself. When this happens I will gladly do it for you if you would lke this.

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I see in my mind millions of faces, I'm talking to god, or I'm talking to the whole world when I'm here


This statement is deeply profound, perhaps more deeply than even you realized when you keyed it into your computer. When we talk, write, think or communicate in any way all existence hears and is effected by lesser or greater  degree, our words moves the universe, God and his creature big and small, awesome to think about but absolutely true. We can move the very course of creation and existence by simply stating something profound, such as this truth

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Reply #44 - May 5th, 2008 at 8:56am
 
Alysia and other interested forum members, check this out,


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"the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat"


World's Largest Tiger Reserve Created in Myanmar”

Myanmar land of the tiger

The world's most ambitious project to establish a protected region for tigers to escape extinction has been given official approval by the Myanmar (Burma) government.
     
The signing of the document by Myanmar leaders more than triples the size of the 2,500-square-mile (6,500-square-kilometer) Hukawng Valley Wildlife Sanctuary, which was established in 2001. The increase in size will expand the sanctuary to an area more than twice the size of Yellowstone National Park in the U.S.—or nearly as large as the state of Vermont.
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"the white land will have rain and the land of the tiger submerged in flood and heat and submerged in flood and heat
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Myanmar death toll
'nears 4,000'  over 3000 missing, hundreds of thousands homeless.      

STORY HIGHLIGHTS MYANMAR CYCLONE
     
4,000 dead, 3,000 ,  still missing following cyclone, hundreds of thousands homeless, Myanmar state media reports
     Ruling military junta appeals for international aid following deadly storm
     Thailand to send aid supplies to Myanmar at neighbor's request

YANGON, Myanmar (CNN) -- Almost 4,000 people have died and another 3,000 remain missing in Myanmar as a result of this weekend's devastating cyclone, state media reported Monday.

The soaring death toll was announced as the reclusive southeast Asian country's ruling military junta issued a rare appeal for international assistance in the face of an escalating humanitarian crisis.

The Associated Press reported that resident ambassadors had been summoned to a foreign ministry meeting after a state of emergency was declared across much of the country following the 10-hour storm that left swathes of destruction in its wake.

The government of neighboring Thailand said Myanmar's leaders had already requested food, medical supplies and construction equipment, AP reported. The first plane-load of supplies was due to arrive Tuesday, a Thai spokesman said.

Scenes of the destruction showed flooding, roofs ripped off buildings, uprooted trees and downed power lines after cyclone Nargis battered the Irrawaddy delta throughout Friday night and Saturday morning.

"After about noon, the sky cleared and everybody came out and were just stunned," said Shari Villarosa, U.S. Charge D' Affaires in Yangon. "People on my compound who had been there for about 15 years say they had not seen anything like this here, ever."

Residents of Yangon trudged through knee-deep swirling brown waters Monday as the delta city remained mostly without electricity and phone connections.  Watch the cyclone hammer Yangon »

A spokesman for the Red Cross said the emergency aid group was working with its Myanmar agency to provide drinking water, temporary shelters and blankets and warned that urgent action was needed to limit outbreaks of disease.

"I think one of the biggest needs right now is to stave off disease," said spokesman Eric Porterfield. "We will be helping with the distribution of clean drinking water and setting up shelters."

Relief agencies met at the United Nations' Bangkok headquarters Monday to coordinate their response to the disaster. The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies said it had released 200,000 Swiss Francs (about $190,000) to help with the aftermath.

The U.S. aid group World Vision also said it had responded to a government request for assistance.

"The biggest need is getting water for the "two million affected people," World Vision spokesman Casey Calamusa told CNN, adding that it was rare for the government to ask for help. The ruling junta under sharp criticism from many nations for using force to suppress pro-democracy protests last year.  Learn more about Myanmar »

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A state of emergency was declared Sunday across five regions: the city of Yangon, Irrawaddy, Pegu and the states of Karen and Mon. All flights to Yangon, the former capital, were canceled.
"Most Burmese with whom we've been in touch report they lost their roofs, although so far everyone we have been able to contact reports that they and their families are safe," said a Yangon-based diplomat who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Earlier Monday, an editor for an independent Myanmar newspaper based in Thailand told CNN that people in the Southeast Asian nation were angry over the response to the disaster by the ruling military junta.

"People are very angry with the slow response coming from the military government," said Aung Zaw of Irrawaddy news magazine.

Zaw said communication was down across large areas of the country. He also said the casualty figures could rise.

"Very few people have access to these areas to estimate damage and how many people have been killed."  Listen to Irrawaddy journalist discuss the situation in Myanmar »
Khin Maung Win, a spokesman for the Democratic Voice of Burma -- a broadcast media group run by opposition expatriates -- said the whole of the delta region had been affected and entire villages had disappeared.

Pictures from inside the country showed a cyclone-ravaged region with tin huts crushed under trees. Bicyclists navigated around large branches that littered the deserted roads


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