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Reply #15 - Apr 8th, 2008 at 7:36am
 
Fascinating, Alan.

Watch, listen, receive...

I notice that it was just announced yesterday on CNN that Bob Dylan has been awarded a special Pulitzer Prize in recognition of the exceptional poetry of his songs.

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Reply #16 - Apr 9th, 2008 at 4:42pm
 
Hi blink and alan The centre i go to ,so many there feel like they are the outcasts in this world as do me and Deanna sometimes,but there is so much love between us all at the centre.
This is the words of a song Bet Midler sang.




I don't know if you can hear me, or if you're even there.
I don't know if you will listen to a humble prayer.
They tell me I am just an outcast, I shouldn't speak to you...
Still I see your face, and wonder, were you once an outcast too?

God help the outcasts, hungry from birth.
Show them the mercy they don't find on Earth.
The lost and forgotten, they look to you still.
God help the outcasts, or nobody will.

I ask for nothing, I can get by.
But I know so many less lucky than I.
God help the outcasts, the poor and downtrod.
I thought we all were the children of God.

I don't know if there's a reason;
why some are blessed, some not.
Why the few you seem to favor --
they fear us, flee us, try not to see us.

God help the outcasts, the tattered, the torn.
Seeking an answer to why they were born.
Winds of misfortune have blown them about.
You made the outcasts, don't cast them out.

The poor and unlucky, the weak and the odd.
I thought we all were the children of God.

Love and God bless  love juditha
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Reply #17 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 10:23am
 
Greetings,

I wonder if these are thoughts were collected or written previously?
I don't want to interrupt you, Alan, if you're currently receiving these revelations, so I'll just ask the others---have you got clues for understanding this beautiful poetic information?

Some terms that might be more familiar in other words-- the 'Watchers' perhaps are known as Helpers in Bruce's books;
the black belt might be from a map I cannot find now but which shows the path of a meteor crossing Earth in the near future (2--4 years); or maybe it's the belt that is drawn that widens the equator, that shows where most pyramids were built?

Looking again to the skies, From the website www.seasky.org  for 2008--      
"April 21, 22 - Lyrids Meteor Shower. The Lyrids are an average shower,
usually producing about 20 meteors per hour at their peak. These meteors
can produce bright dust trails that last for several seconds. The shower will
peak this year on the night of April 21 & 22,
although some meteors are usually visible from
April 16 - 25. This year, a nearly full moon means that only the brightest
meteors will be visible even at dark locations. If you do decide to give it
a try, look for meteors radiating from the constellation of Lyra after midnight.
May 5 - New Moon
May 5 - Eta Aquarids Meteor Shower. The Eta Aquarids are a light shower,
usually producing about 10 meteors per hour at their peak. The shower's
peak will occur on May 5, however viewing should be good on any morning
from May 4 - 7. This year, a new moon means ideal viewing conditions.
The dark skies will reveal even the faintest meteors. The radiant point
for this shower will be in the constellation Aquarius. Best viewing is usually
to the east after midnight."

Juditha, if Alan's 'poem' is revelation, can you focus on it and ask how it is true?
I do regret being so mundane about such a beautiful expression.

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Reply #18 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 1:53pm
 
Hi bets From reading what alan has written,i am very much feeling jesus as bringing this to alan as these words re talking of the second coming and the change anew of this planet ,where there will be only love and we will all be at one with God ,no more seperation from the great one,the tiger will lay in our arms so as a kitten and will purrr with unconditional love,there will be fruit and flowers and radiant beauty in abundance,i see Jesus standing beside alan as i'm writing this and there is much light around them both,this is the beginning of much to be said and learned from outr father God,i feel very much that alan is being used at this time as a channel for these words to be written down and understood,for we are the children of the great spirit our father God whose love is unconditional and will never stop,this is what i have felt and sensed of alans writings.

Love and God bless        love juditha
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Reply #19 - Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:30pm
 
hey I can't resist some humor:  Grin

Alan said:  The watchers watch, the watchers watch and plan our exit.
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the other day I was talking to the watchers regarding our exit plans. they told me to go to the back of the line, because the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. I asked do you want me to wave my arms in the direction of the exit? They laughed and said do whatever you want because you are free. We're having a recess but when the bell rings you better not delay in the playground, things are speeding up. You don't want to be late, and make sure everyone gets on board while you're directing traffic.
Be here now because where else could you be and tomorrow is now. then they went off and released some underground pressure in a fault.

here's a meditation I'm doing currently regarding The Unobstructed Universe. dang, nice title. think of it, on another dimension of life ongoing, I shall cease to stub me toe!
anyhoo, here we have a concept. On Earth, Alan points out from his sources of thought, that the Earth is overpopulated. I'm contrary to that. there's enough vacant land out there for each person on Earth to have an acre to themselves...however, this is another one of my unrealistic thoughts.
we are all dependent on each other to survive..and clumps of people survive much better than isolated people. that means we talk about Earth resources. I say get a horse and get a tent. another unrealistic thought but I'm an old Indian in revelry.
now I'm really off track  Angry The unobstructed universe defines Life in the physical plane at "quantitative" and life in the spirit plane as "qualitative."

Now you can see why I must go bake some bread and allow that to rise!

love to you all while I go do that.  Smiley
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Reply #20 - Apr 15th, 2008 at 1:04pm
 
Some artwork as I join this thread I'd like to interpret these photos in alignment with Alan's contribution about swords:

I do not have the names of the artists, but this is a sort of tribute to them whereever they are as I've used these images when I blog.

From Alan's post, which is taken from his own sources:  He "The Great One" fashioned the Sword of Flame by thought, for he knew that there would come a time when the souls of men would require more than the energies of their own "lifestreams" to cut themselves free from the shackles and creations into which they weave their wrong energies.      
   
It is a Sword of Redemption, a Sword of Hope, a Sword of Freedom, and when the last soul has passed over the bridge into eternal Light, when the last book of record has been closed and sealed, when the Ascension of the last "lifestream" is completed, and every tiny electron that is presently functioning in distorted form is again redeemed and returned to the Source- that Sword will be no more.!

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when I first saw this image I was blitzed into an altered state of reflection, what it meant. personally of course. I thought of the angel with the sword as protecting her sister angel while she prayed, creating the prayer to manifest aid upon the Earth. While in prayer attitude, then we are protected from distorting influences, and so there is pure purpose in prayer, as well pure power for goodness to prevail. then I thought of these two beings represented soul qualities in all of us. We have the power of the sword, in our will, in our willingness also. and We have the vast potential of the earnest prayer for peace on earth as it is in heaven.
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This is depicted as a fairy with a sword. the first thought came to mind when I saw this one was the feminine develops a masculine balance within to utilize the power of the will, as the fairy is related to earth and nature, she attends to all life sprouting upon the Earth to protect it's growth and honor it.
Some say it is phallic worship and laugh it off, that the sword symbol is this. not so in truth.
For all of us must balance our feminine/masculine qualities in the end. It simply represents an action principle and that mankind, enlightened, will not settle for less than the truth, for less than is our heritage as children of the light, from whence we came, to where we return.
It is nearly time to begin the universal celebration of our freedom from the illusion that we are not free from malady, oppression and which the media presents to us, with no spiritual food whatsoever, we prepare our own dinner.

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Re: after Alan: we'll be together again
Reply #21 - Apr 15th, 2008 at 9:12pm
 
Alysia dear,
Yes I will rethink the overpopulation input, what I meant was more in the line of uncontrolled exponential population increase now seen especially in the poorer counties, who can really not afford this and con not now feed their hungry ones. Also where humans live in appalling confined places of poverty all sorts of depravity happen. Of course, this also happens in more so called advanced societies.


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the other day I was talking to the watchers regarding our exit plans. they told me to go to the back of the line, because the first shall be last, and the last shall be first. I asked do you want me to wave my arms in the direction of the exit? They laughed and said do whatever you want because you are free. We're having a recess but when the bell rings you better not delay in the playground, things are speeding up. You don't want to be late, and make sure everyone gets on board while you're directing traffic.
Be here now because where else could you be and tomorrow is now. then they went off and released some underground pressure in a fault.


Do you really communicate with the Watchers, if so I am interested in more facts, or are you perhaps joking and pulling my leg, which is also ok with me?

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Reply #22 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 2:52pm
 
Do you really communicate with the Watchers, if so I am interested in more facts, or are you perhaps joking and pulling my leg, which is also ok with me?

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alan

you can't tell if I'm serious or not?  Smiley I think the watchers are what is spoken of in our studies as "helpers." Some of them were physical and are now nonphysical beings with a larger overview of the world and spiritual/physical evolution.

what I said, which caused you to consider whether I'm joking or not is just a way to use language to get a point across about staying in the now moment, I would advise that nobody try to escape, or exit planet Earth without first consulting with me!...just joking, that last part.

I have seen door keeper spirits, these are like close affiliates of a physical person, like their guidance factor..these doorkeepers you have to go thru them first, if you want to speak to that person, they want to make sure your intentions are perfectly good ones.

Watchers? I feel like I am a watcher myself. love to you Alan, for all your assistance on this board. alysia

oh wait, Blink, a Pulitzer prize for Dylan? they should give him about a half dozen.  Smiley
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Reply #23 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 3:20pm
 
Alan, my eternal gratitude to you for bringing together such beautiful ideas in one place. I consider it a brave act.

There is an extraordinary amount of truth spilling into this forum. It must be interpreted with love. The guidance is here, visible for those who understand, and must be received with an open heart.

I will take these ideas and meditate quietly on them for a while.

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Reply #24 - Apr 18th, 2008 at 3:34pm
 
thanks Alan, I agree with Blink, it takes courage to post up new ideas. there's probably too much here to respond to; I'll just add a few cents then, that I like the part about singing..

as a matter of fact I sing in this life. going out tonite to do just that, and I know it's done on other planes of existence. I like this part at the end   
"Perception is the building blocks of existence and creation.

would like to add it is indeed a building block, perception is what we pick up information from utilizing our five senses which are limited here, but more unlimited in the afterlife areas. Perception, therefore is not knowledge, nor wisdom. but we work with it and life is truly a gift as far as I can see!

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Reply #25 - Apr 18th, 2008 at 5:49pm
 
Thank you Alysia and Blink, Bets

Look at the bottom of the message I will just add a few things. Now I will edit beautify and prune the message, as new words come into my mind. It will not get longer but become more understandable as time goes by.

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Reply #26 - Apr 19th, 2008 at 3:08pm
 
hey there Alan, just looking at perception..the last part of the message is fascinating..it makes the mind stop in dead air. anything that can stop my mind is to be revered.

first was perception (remember the bible? the word of god moved upon the waters?)

I think regarding the word of god upon the waters, was that God breathed himself out upon the waters, from which all life sprang, then and this was evolution. his breath is like his word. a word is actualized into materialization.

now we move onto the perception thing. your discourse says First came perception which was glorious light. (god is light energy, intelligence)

first cause is God. It moves, has light properties, it is alive, it has breath. It made creatures to breath with life.

the comment "if something is not perceived by anything it does not exist." think on that for a moment while we pause for a commercial.

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I apologize to any atheists here. I just think its funny. probably god doesn't think it's funny at all.

does this mean if someone doesn't think I'm funny therefore I don't exist? no, it just means all of god's chillun have their own perceptions and do not necessarily need moi to entertain them.

getting off track. If something is not perceived by anything it does not exist. this is like Greek stuff. if a tree in the forest falls, does it make a sound?

if a bird or a worm is there it does. many say nay, it doesn't make a sound if a human ear is not there. however gravity law works and the effect of a falling tree is the sound of gravity making an impact. so I say, yes it makes a sound.

then we could say out of sight, out of mind. I say out of sight, lol, I WISH it were out of mind!

back to perception not existing if no one is there to perceive it.

on a positive track, which I fail to see why I'd go negative tracking...this thought above is about monism and if we speak of our oneness, we perceive each other perceiving. if someone is not there to perceive us perceiving, it's a lonely world.

being alone however, has its positive side too! for even when alone I perceive god is watching me being alone.
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Reply #27 - Apr 19th, 2008 at 7:42pm
 
Greetings,

It seems we can help to make thoughts real by perceiving them, but only if we accept them.  When they are presented with beauty and faith, it's easier to perceive them.
Even as we share them, we add our own variations to their meaning and this could weaken original meanings. Still the general theme is there and many will see their interpretation come true.

I'm still working on the interpretation part but I'm grateful that the ideas are filled with hope and beauty.

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Reply #28 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 12:09pm
 
hey alan....you quoted: When you enter this world don't try to rationalize or understand it, or you may go mad for it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation
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comment: this instills fear in a neophyte about the going mad part. words are powerful. here's how I'd reword it to bypass the illusory fear of going mad. when a person fears going mad, it is something that has not happened yet. therefore if it hasn't happened yet, you can dismiss the fear thought as something quite unreal because the mind here has a tendency to blow things up.  In truth, we need fear nothing, because fear is nothing real. Compare the going mad to our TMI studies of what a belief system crash is. A belief system crash can seem like madness is close..however, we all tend to get through those crashes smelling better afterwards.
The revelatory state of consciousness is to be in direct communication with unlimited greater being, referred in ACIM to direct communication with God. Although it is seldom achieved by the masses and should not be a goal in itself, it does happen. however whoever wrote this ditty is not completely God realized, my opinion, otherwise they would watch more carefully the words which strike fear; fear is the opposite of love, or the nearest opposite of love.
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All realms exist in the same space, and yet remain separate and distinct by the vibration or frequency of consciousness, which forms each realm. We are eveywhere and everywhen   at the same moment, time and space are no more
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comment: this part is true; the two worlds are One. the Our material world is like a shadow of the Otherworld. the frequency, the vibration is the movement of thought at different rates; this creates a veil over the perception. the two worlds, as we see it now, are slowly beginning to blend. Orthic or true time on the other side as nonphysical beings is is more like experiencial or psychological manipulation of time, not like clock time, not like being bound to clock time. We are also creating of the sense of space, expanding it or de-expanding it, like playing with atoms and molecules.
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“The tree that falls unperceived makes no sound”
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thinking about this some more since u put it up again. I think what it could refer to a person's sense of isolation. say, a person can die on this planet and make no sound dying, in other words, that person could be so isolated, that no one percieves their death. they have fallen unperceived, in that sense.
However, I fail to see this statement as leading to any wisdom food. it is totally open to interpret anyway you want.  If we search our minds and our hearts, certain bible passages are leading us to the truth. He sees the sparrow fall. If he sees the sparrow fall, and if we are all one, I still say the fallen, whether tree or man or bird, do make a sound. The sound of a man is his breath leaving his body.
If God is All, He hears and takes back what is His.
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Danger comes from the crescent moon
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perhaps this relates to astrology which I'm not into. again, a thought which leads to anywhere and nowhere. a toy thought. there is no danger. we are safe, and dreaming we are in a nightmare.
it's all real, just until you know there is nothing to fear, as fear is not real.
This is not really new age stuff..this is older esoterics..there's value in it, but there's some more modern literature out there which is much more stimulating to myself. just my opinion, as in the end, if it causes you to think, it's good. it's all good.
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Reply #29 - Apr 20th, 2008 at 5:15pm
 
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hey alan....you quoted: When you enter this world don't try to rationalize or understand it, or you may go mad for it is beyond human understanding. Just accept it all, go with the flow and enjoy it! It is that Great City of revelation
 

The "world" here is the ultimate progressive plane a soul can ascend before uniting with the "Cosmic Mind" "I have deleted the "go mad comment". I put it in  due to my insatiable  excessive curiousity, constant thinking and trying to ralionalise consepts like infinity eternity, nothingness, going into the very mind of God. I ended up in a mental insitution. So now that which is beyond understanding "I just accept" Leave alone the inscrutable

The City of Light could very well be the same city as Revelations

People of the crescent moon, think on this one more who are they????

I really appreciate comments and as a forum we can edit and rework this message as something  beautiful

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