Dave quote: At the same time, those three same aspects combine together to form an ntegrated whole, which is evidently what we have internalized as our sense of the world. Thus, we have the endless universe inside our heads as an integrated unity, allowing us to conjur up dreams, imagination, hypothetical scenarios, and at the same time, we live in a world in which those same dreams, scenarios and imaginary scenes can be manifested in a way that we recognize as "extended", somehow bringing our inner and outer experiences together.
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Dave, Im happy u r here. heres an invalid perspective of life designed to produce mirth. the show must go on despite bad reviews.


I am eating at your restaurant some day, god willing.

Hi Mellie,

A very warm welcome to this forum. If you resontate with Miceal Newtons writings you have arrived at the correct forum. He is well known by many members and repected.

Regards

alan

These discussions always throw me back to college organic chemistry class, in which the professor explained that in organic chemistry, A depends on B depends on C depends on A. Or at least he put that in the introduction to his monograph that we used in class. 

So that's what I always experience in these discussions, that A depends on...A.

The problem is that was can never go to that place of meta language where we can objectively talk about this stuff. Third law of thermodynamics...We can't get out of the system.

The overriding question to me is, how do we know what we claim we know?

Hi Lucy  you asked , how do we know what we claim we know? 
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I think Alan mentioned faith. faith is beyond belief. I'll just throw in that sometimes it just doesn't matter when everything becomes the truth, and nothing good,nothing bad happening.

thats a good one Alan, faith determines fate. I think that's true  I might mention trust is like faith, but not exactly the same. I think faith is stronger, more solid than trust, but the two are definitely related.

it's an energy though rather than a belief system.