Hallo All!

Some days after my last post on this thread, I had another experience which seems to follow on from the story so far. I previously sent this as a PM to Bets, and she suggested it may be of interest to post it here.

I'm often up quite late (old habits die hard!), and may switch on the PC to check emails, (or this site!) etc, before turning in for the night. I started to do this about 2.15am last Thursday. My PC is so darned slow, it can take ages to get going, or may have to be restarted etc. While it was doing this, I thought I'd close my eyes for just a few minutes, feeling a bit tired. I must have gone into a very light sleep, for, although I was still aware that I was sitting by the PC, in a semi-dream state I "heard" people being let in downstairs in the house (I am the only resident). These people I "knew" were my parents, both together, and the person letting them in seemed to me at the time to be my sister, who physically lives 80 miles away. All through this, I was fully aware that I was upstairs at the PC, yet I was still able to "see" my parents downstairs, and both were as they were in the early 1960s, when they would have been in their early 40s, slim and youthful. There was a great deal of chatting and laughter going on, and I thought I should go downstairs and join them all! Before doing so, I thought I should turn off the PC, but when I tried to do so, I could not - I could not physically affect it, try as hard as I might! I could feel the resultant frustration building up, and then suddenly I "awoke", still sitting by the PC, of course, (and it still loading up!). Of course the house was empty, and shortly afterwards, I went to bed. I had thought I might be able to get back to the scene by keeping it in my mind once in bed, but I think I just fell into deep sleep, as I recall nothing else.

I checked with my sister later that day to see if she remembered any such experiences or dreams from the previous night, but she could not.

This is the first time I've "dreamt" of both my parents together, and believe it must be significant. My father passed on in 1989, and, as you might remember from my postings on this thread, my mother just 7 weeks ago in February. It's also odd, I think, that I knew all through that I was sitting by the PC, so this was not a "normal" deep sleep dream, and of course I actually tried unsuccessfully to turn off the PC. Could I have been out-of-body in some way?

Best wishes,

Alfred

Thank you, Spooky2.

Re your point about how the PC in my "dream" might have morphed into something else in a normal dream, whereas mine stayed as a PC - it did differ slightly in that the real PC was in the normal laptop "lid upright" state, whereas the "dream" PC, for some oddball reason, had its lid pushed flat backwards! Weird!

I also noticed some similarities between my experience and that posted by Phantasy Man on his "OoBE and Nap" thread, though of course I wasn't conscious of a full-blown OBE.

Alfred

Hi Alfred,

I have also  had some very weird dreams, one I started a thread on was of a stange realm where every one walked backwards.

alan

Greetings Gordon 

could you please tell us more about 'the brain's compressed versions' ?
It might need a new thread, as I haven't seen it discussed here
in the last couple of years and think you'd get alot of interest.
For example,
does the brain know what to reveal and what to leave out?
Is the compressing the reason why we're gone so long but the visit seems quite brief?
Can we get it to uncompress and give us more info?

Bets

Betson, hi;
yes, moving from brain-based knowing to soul-based knowing is an interesting challenge.  I confront it mostly with clients who come to see me in person or who phone long distance, and then, of course, I tailor my "teaching" to wherever i sense "the person is at".
Generally it's not easy to sum up "for everyone", but i'll try.

Understand, please, that when we incarnate we accept the limitation that the brain places upon our consciousness.  we know we're going to be limited and that will be frustrating, but we accept it as part of the game plan, that of educating our souls in "the earth life school system".
We have experiences of various kinds while we are asleep and obe.  everyone has different experiences, depending on the level they allow themselves to explore (that's influenced by religious beliefs and various self-judgements).  So one might be floating around their house, going from room to room, another might be flying about their physical plane neighbourhood, meeting other obe'rs and interacting (speech and sexuality are the two main ways), and others might have figured out how to move beyond the physical dimension into the various astral planes.
Out there, most explore;  some, because of the popularity of violent books and horror films, wind up in the lower astrals/hell realms, seeing the poor souls trapped there and having frightening experiences, and waking up anxious/scared/spooked and unable to go back to sleep.  This includes little children btw.
Others, responding to semi-conscious needs and urges, go to where their dearly departed are, and interact.  The interaction can be in full astral consciousness, or a kind of semi- conscious state (half asleep and dreaming).  When they awaken, their memories are fragmented and mixed in with the endless brain activity, you know, churning over yesterday's events and anticipating tomorrow's, and the resulting stew in a confusing mix of "the meeting out there" and the various physical plane "regret-and-anxiety-based scenarios". ie you're talking coherently to your dead sister and that is superimposed over a memory of your recent scary-vacation-swimming experience and followed by a scene where you're wandering naked through the office you work in, wondering why no-one can see you and terrified that someone might.
So you see the brain not only compresses your astral experience, ie you just get the headlines, but it mixes it all in with its own leftovers that should really be under the sink in the garbage bag.
Why does it compress?  It can't cope, it's all too much, it has unactivated circuits.  Meditation and using hemi-sync will help activate those dormant circuits.

hope this helps betson:  gordon
betson wrote on Apr 28^th, 2008 at 4:22pm:

Very many thanks for all your explanations and comments, Gordon, they are very helpful and appreciated, coming from such a master of the subject as yourself. And thanks especially for your encouragement, which, together with that of of all the others who've contributed to this thread (including Bets, who has PM'd me so much advice and kind support - thank you, Bets!), gives me so much added incentive to try to improve on my current very basic achievements in this fascinating and important area of study.

Thanks and best wishes to all,

Alfred

Greetings Alfred!

Good to hear from you again!

Re: slow loading time on the board, my theory is that when more than 9--10 people are on site, it slows, and when it gets to 12 people, it takes a whole lot of patience to wait it out.

Yes, love from the spiritual side can come as a jolt or a buzz or a magnetic field!   
Amazing, isn't it?!

Your friend, Bets