Copyrighted Logo

css menu by Css3Menu.com


 

Bruce's 5th book, a Home Study Course, is now available.
Books & Tapes by Bruce Moen
    Bruce's Blog now at http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/blog....

  HomeHelpSearchLoginRegister  
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
Re: Indepth study on hell? (Read 1111 times)
dave_a_mbs
Super Member
*****
Offline


Afterlife Knowledge Member

Posts: 1655
central california
Gender: male
Re: Indepth study on hell?
Mar 22nd, 2008 at 5:30pm
 
The biggest problem I see with discussions about hell is the assumption that there is a hell.  In the same manner, sin seems to take on a character quite different from simple errors of judgement, although there is no specific reason for this.

If we view learning experiences in our world in the same way as we view schoolwork, then the issue vanishes. That doesn't mean that errors don't occur, but simply that they are errors and have no especially terrible nature. Then the place in which we learn to avoid making mistakes becomes heavenly, while the state of errors is itself hellish.

Merely because generations of fire-and-brimstone theologians have pulled their teeth and hair (while passing the collections plate) while imagining hell is not reason to believe that such a place exists.

dave
Back to top
 

life is too short to drink sour wine
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Bruce Moen
YaBB Administrator
*****
Offline



Posts: 587
YaBB Admin Land
Re: Indepth study on hell?
Reply #1 - Mar 23rd, 2008 at 6:12am
 
Alan,

You said, "The uncomfortable fact is that hell is a reality and one of the afterlife realms, like it or not."  But your only proof is your own belief that such a place exists and a long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, discussion of church doctrine supporting that religion's beliefs.  And that long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, discussion has no basis in facts gained through direct exploration of hell or hells.  It's just another example of man's trying to define reality based on creating an internally consistant, logical-rational argument to support their set of beliefs, in place of direct exploration.

Personally, I prefer to take a different, more direct approach.  If a hell, or many hells, exist why not just go directly into one of them and take a look around.  Why not explore one of them to gather as many "facts" as my own imperfect, belief-skewed, half-awake perception will allow, and then begin to draw my own conclusions?  Why not send in a group of explorers in Partnered Exploring sessions to do the same.  Why not then combine the information from all those partners, with their individual perspectives, biases, etc, to try to gain a bigger picture understanding of such places?

Alan, one of the saddest things we discovered when we did these explorations of hells is how they are created.  The religion-based hells appear to be created by the fact that a very large group of people share the same set of beliefs about that hell.  In other words when a religion gets its followers to believe in the existence of the hell that that religion defines, that hell is created by the resulting group-held belief.  Each religion appears to have its own hell, since each religion has its own beliefs about their hell.  And, the only people you find in these hells are those from that specific religion.  Only Lutherans in Lutheran hell, only Catholics in Catholic hell, etc., etc.  It is sad to think that all those people are suffering in those hells for no other reason than that they were told to believe their hell existed and they took on that belief.

Bruce
Back to top
 
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send Topic Print


This is a Peer Moderated Forum. You can report Posting Guideline violations.