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Reply #15 - Mar 29th, 2008 at 9:53pm
 
Haha, nice Bets. I'm not a father myself, but I noticed babies are different from each other. With some it's almost spooky. Although very very young and small, some do focus me with their eyes even from a wider distance, and either smile and laugh, or keep staring at me seemingly lost in thoughts. You just can't help yourself but to feel they somehow connect to you.

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Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2008 at 10:55am
 
Roger P., hi
haven't read Fry's book but have read a number of other British medium's books and the general consensus is a yes to all your questions.  babies transit very easily to the next plane; they have virtaully no resistance or fears, and their subconscious memories of being there before are very strong.  They "grow up" on the other side, rather more quickly than here, but then everything happens more quickly there than here.

There's a lot of adopting babies over there; many folk who "die young" here and feel like they missed out on a lot wind up adopting over there, they're thrilled with this feeling of a second chance to be parents.  I devote quite a bit of space to the process in my first book, Eternal Life And How To Enjoy It.

hope this helps.

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roger prettyman wrote on Mar 12th, 2008 at 11:14am:
I am currently reading Colin Fry`s latest book, Secrets From The Afterlife. Colin is a well known TV psychic medium in the U.K.

One passing of a 28 day old baby into the Afterlife where he is being looked after by his grandmother, as related to the baby`s parents by Colin, set my mind thinking.
Does the baby`s soul/spirit continue to develop or does it remain as a baby? If so, how is it to develop spiritually? Invariably when we read/hear of people who have passed over at an old age or with some deformity or infirmity they always appear perfectly  normal  and usually at a much younger age when they were at their best. This explanation appears perfectly plausible as it was the physical body which had the impediment and not the soul/spirit.
We are also told that when we pass over there are friends or relatives to welcome us into the Afterlife. Could these include a baby or child someone had lost many years ago? If so, would the child`s soul/spirit then be able to develop further, along with it`s parents, even though time, per se, does not exist in the Afterlife?
Could that soul/spirit also reincarnate?

I find this very intriguing and wonder what others thoughts are on this.

roger Smiley

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Reply #17 - Apr 10th, 2008 at 11:50am
 
Dave

I can't seem to find any more information about this Gladys McCrary person. Is it possible there is another spelling of her name? Can you tell me where she works? Does she work in secret? This is very strange.

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Reply #18 - Apr 13th, 2008 at 3:57pm
 
Hallo All!

Just carrying on Roger's thoughts.... do all babies carry on their development in the Afterlife? If we accept that a soul has "decided" to incarnate into a baby's physical body, then presumably its intentions for doing so (development in the Earth Life System) are thwarted when that body dies prematurely. Would that soul not wish to reincarnate quickly if its original  desire was still to benefit from the ELS? How would developing through the stages of a non-physical baby's body in the afterlife help it - wouldn't it be wasting "time", so to speak?

Or is that baby's passing pre-ordained in some way - i.e. has the soul itself decided to call time, and "blow the whistle" early in the game?

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Reply #19 - Apr 13th, 2008 at 4:26pm
 
I recall when an infant that it was nearly impossible to get a grasp on the world because there were too many people hanging around poking me and saying stupid things. It's difficult to make sense out of something when everyone is dangling objects, and poking and jostling and fooling about to distract what little focus of attention there is.

The biggest problem children have is not lack of ability, but lack of experience. I think that were we to carefully train our kids to focus on a topic, then to understand how to express themselves, we'd start with a much wiser bunch of youngsters, and probably adults. There is good reason to feel that infants have a fairly good grasp of words and ideas long before they have been able to form the sounds of language. The point of this is that there is nothing wrong with the infant's brain except sufficient time to get it programmed to the everyday world.

Interestingly, if we look at a newborn, we can see essentially the same collection of abilities as we can expect to carry with us into the afterlife, except here we see them being brought back in a rebirth. The internal aspects are fully operational, yet they relate very badly to the everyday world because they lack the experiential basis for function.

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Reply #20 - Apr 13th, 2008 at 6:02pm
 
Greetings Alfred  Smiley

I just noticed that the board still designates you as a 'new' member. And after all you've been through!  Smiley I'm not sure what the quota is on posts to get your designation changed.

....Probably it's the same with 'new' babies. As Dave a-mbs says they have more capabilities than indicated by the number of words they've uttered.  Wink 
And though accidental /premature deaths are a possibility, most events are preplanned for the spiritual development of those concerned.

In the Afterlife we find that souls return to their favorite age. Souls that keep a baby form in the focus level 27 of the AL must enjoy that role, but can move from it at will.  Soul development is separate from any stage of physical life.

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Reply #21 - Apr 14th, 2008 at 9:58am
 
[quote author=Alfred link=1205334892/15#18 date=1208116667]Hallo All!
Hi Albert, my comments in italics,...gordon....

Just carrying on Roger's thoughts.... do all babies carry on their development in the Afterlife?
Yes they do !  Topic covered in detail in my first book Eternal Life And How To Enjoy It.

if we accept that a soul has "decided" to incarnate into a baby's physical body, then presumably its intentions for doing so (development in the Earth Life System) are thwarted when that body dies prematurely. Would that soul not wish to reincarnate quickly if its original  desire was still to benefit from the ELS? How would developing through the stages of a non-physical baby's body in the afterlife help it - wouldn't it be wasting "time", so to speak?
Or is that baby's passing pre-ordained in some way - i.e. has the soul itself decided to call time, and "blow the whistle" early in the game?
Both types of case occur Albert; i know this from my own research and from reading the available literature.  Mostly "premature death" as arranged beforehand to either spiritually benefit the incarnating soul or its parents; but there are some cases where physiological/biological
crises are unforeseen or underestimated, and the baby body gives out.  In those cases the soul very often reincarnates quickly, very often to the same parents.
(topic covered in both my books)

best wishes, gordon
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Reply #22 - Apr 16th, 2008 at 11:30am
 
Thank you very much to all who have responded so far. Most interesting points have been made.

Gordon, you say "...if we accept that a soul has "decided" to incarnate into a baby's physical body, then presumably its intentions for doing so (development in the Earth Life System) are thwarted when that body dies prematurely..." but I take issue with this.  

Surely death is preordained in our life`s plan and by doing so early is both a learning for the baby`s soul as well as a lesson for all those who are affected by the death too. We are here on earth to experience and learn lessons, no matter how hard many may be.
Taking your thoughts on this slightly further, at what age of a child dying does the soul`s intentions  not become thwarted when the child dies?

roger  Undecided
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Reply #23 - Apr 17th, 2008 at 10:46am
 
Roger,

Gordon was quoting from an earlier post of mine - so he's not responsible!

I was thinking out loud, and asking largely rhetorical questions. At the end of my post, I speculated along just the lines you mention - i.e. the possibility of pre-ordainment in this.

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Reply #24 - Apr 18th, 2008 at 5:04pm
 
Gordon,Can i buy your book,and receive it in my email.George
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