A while back I read Mellen-Thomas Benedict’s NDE experience that I keep being drawn to reread over and over. For those that haven’t read it or would like to reread it, it’s located here:
http://www.mellen-thomas.com/stories.htm

I think a lot of the time we think our primary purpose of existence is to become more like God or to grow towards the divine by living life according to the golden rule. Now I’m not saying that this incorrect, but I’m increasing impressed with Mellen-Thomas’ statement that God is becoming us and I wonder what all of you think about this. Is God becoming us? If so in what ways do you see this occurring?

Thanks for your comments.

Love,
Kathy

I'd qualify that by suggesting that that's possibly only true if we consider 'us' to be all sentient beings in all the universes - meaning that 'we' may include lots of things we mightn't regard as beings right now, probably in fact everything animate and inanimate as we'd presently classify it....

Kathy-

I presume you are basing your "God is becoming us" premise on this NDE.

Seems to me that first, we have to know more about Mellen-Thomas Benedict.  What is his credibility?  How do we know he actually experienced these things, and even if he did, how do we know if he accurately described his adventure?

I know this comes off as being skeptical, but I for one would want to know a whole lot more about the guy who penned this account before reaching any conclusions, especially about something as profound as the nature of God.

R

To me, the term "God" always has the connotation of "everything", so that nothing is separated from God, and all is part of God. But "God" as well to me has the meaning of "unity". How does that fit together with all these diverse things we can see?
   My personal myth about this is, there is the aspect of an absolute unity, but then, when this unity starts to think, to have a thought, then there is a thinker and a thought, this is the beginning of diversity, it will not stop with duality, a process of (infinite?) diversity has started (btw, it reminds me of dave_a_mbs approach of an iterative complexation process). This all cannot be described in time, and therefore, the unity is still there, "together" with the diversity.
   From this viewpoint, we as humans are parts of God's diversity side. In some of my mind journeys I had the impression that there were many little parts with a sort of consciousness which are growing, with the help of attractors, one of it the Earth-Life-System; those attractors are like condensation-seeds which make those consciousness fractions conglomerate and grow, and to me this seems to be a process of re-gaining unity out of the diversity. Maybe at the end is again unity, but in a somehow evolved form.

Spooky

Hi Ian,

Clear??? lol yeah right!

I like your analogy… two sides of the coin. I think this is why I find this idea intriguing. It’s a paradox. Lately I’ve been thinking a lot about paradoxes and how we exist within these. 

Hi Alan,

I’m not so sure that the idea of God becoming us negates God creating us. To me it is more like God expanding and utilizing all of us as the means by which the whole of us becomes more than what we were. I feel humbled by that thought.

Hi George,

It’s always good to see you here and I appreciate your comment.

Hi Bets,

“How could my spark hold the entire sun?” 

Hmmm… that’s a good question that science seems to speak to with the idea of the holographic universe.

Quote:


In this quote he seems to be saying something to the effect of “heaven on earth” within the physical body. Perhaps he’s talking about evolution of humankind? Perhaps the form this takes is in what we consider miracles such as all of humankind possessing the gift of healing that would bring about longevity of life. Peace within the world, harmony with God, the earth, and ourselves. Harmony among all within the earth is something I have dreamed of since a little girl.

Hi Roger,

While I have no reason to doubt the validity of Benedict’s NDE, I don’t think one needs proof of the validity of it in order to ponder this question. Whenever I close myself up in a box, I feel like I can’t breathe.

God is after all what we believe him/her/it to be. Personally I like the Tao description = the “unnamed” which is the invisible mystery of that which gives life as well as that which is the "named" 10,000 things, which is everything else that exists. The Tao is always present in everything and together we as co-creators participate in creating the 10,000 things.

Hi Rudenski,

Thank you for your comments and welcome to the board. 

Hi Spooky,

Yes I like your thoughts here. It’s almost like the goal of creation, if there is one, is to move through duality back into unity or a time when “God and man will walk hand in hand.”

Love,
Kathy

ultra wrote on Mar 8^th, 2008 at 12:55pm:


   That's an interesting perspective.  I never thought of it that way before.  I'm going to take this to meditation and see what i get. 

  Thanks for sharing it.   I don't know a lot about Sri A. or his teachings, but from what i do know i respect the man.

Hi Ultra,

You and Sri Aurobindo express an answer to my question beautifully.

I’m glad you brought up individuation. I think it is sometimes difficult for us to realize the interconnectivity of us all. Yet even our scientists proclaim the truth of this. Individuation is not the same as separation. Separation promotes fear and a victim mentality, both of which support the illusion of being powerless. Individuation and holism promotes power through self-responsibility, respect and acceptance. This power, as I’m sure you already know, comes from our divine essence within.

Thanks for the link. 

Hi Roger,

I think I understand what you’re saying. Basically that one can lead their self into a state of confusion by trying to figure it all out. That usually happens when one looks outside of one’s self for the answers to important questions. If one chooses to judge less and look for possibilities, the search for knowledge and understanding becomes filled with the joy of discovery. I’m sure Don could probably explain this better than me.

Thanks again everyone for your replies.

Love,
Kathy