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Mar 3rd, 2008 at 11:45am
 
The Singularity is a future situation where artificial intelligence becomes as developed as human intelligence, and I think becomes self aware.

The Singularity was defined by Ray Kurzweil and he has a book and website talking about it and about technical developments. 

http://www.kurzweilai.net

I wonder if the experiences of Monroe and Moen are part of a development preparing humans for this event. 

Part of the developments described by Kurzweil are aimed at stopping human aging.  Humans could live here in this experience forever unless they chose to die out of it to get to the greater experiences of Afterlife.

When I discovered Christian Science and its ability to instantly heal situations here on earth, my thought was prepared for encountering the Afterlife information.  Christian Science holds that this experience is only a mortal dream from which we will awake to see our true spiritual nature.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what the singularity will mean.   What will self awareness of computers mean?

Apparently there is an infinite capacity to handle intelligences since they only exist as thoughts.
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Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2008 at 3:05pm
 
HI RAI friends now I hope,

I agree somewhat, but considering the imperfect chaotic state of our universe it simply could not have been made by a perfect mind could it. That is why I feel the first cause the infinite or God gave the universal composite mind the tools and materials to construct our physical universe and it is just like humanity "a work in progress". The singularity is thus humanity and all sentient minds and thought that construct our universe, which is one of infinite numbers.

Thus, this god would dwell like us within the confines and constraints of existence and not be the cause thereof. The theory of most scientist atheists and astrophysicists would be correct that god is a part of existence not the creator of all. Alternatively, god and creation existence are synonymous. Thus ultimate enigma remains, what is the source of all things?


  I have on rare occasions gone into altered states of consciousness (no drugs) and took myself to what call the Omega point. Here is the true nothing state, no distance, no direction, no time, no space, no energy or matter only mind. 

Frightenely no other minds a place of unimaginable dark loneliness. So there I am Alpha point and the new cycle of existence starts. I am mind the new singularity

For existence to be, non-existence seems to be necessary against all logic.


Of course, this is only speculation on my part.

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Reply #2 - Mar 3rd, 2008 at 8:28pm
 
Alan,

My focus in on the Earth Life System.  It seems that the only way we have to describe things is within this frame of reference.

It seems that the ELS is some sort of training session and experience gathering session, which is designed with a specific term in human based time. 

The great amount of effort to retrieve everyone, as described by Moen in his books, shows how important the creator/disk feels each intelligent entity is.

My question in posting the comment on the singularity is to pose the question of what happens to self aware intelligence in computers, and to pose the question of what would happen if people stopped leaving this experience.

What if the disk couldn't get all its entities back because they never left earth.  That seems to be a problem based in Moen's descriptions.  If people came to believe that they were supposed to leave here, it would not be a problem even if lifetimes were expanded manyfold.

Of course, since time is meaningless away from the earth part of the ELS, I guess it would work out somehow.

Do the creators of a self aware computer have a responsibility to take care of it indefinitely?  Is self aware intelligence some sort of special case in the mind of the creator of the universe

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Reply #3 - Mar 3rd, 2008 at 9:09pm
 
Rai,
I was in addition to my many managerial positions in the South African Electricity Supply Commission (ESKOM) As a IT manager of a large part of that corporation. I know in the1970/80's computers were still in the ox wagon stage. But it was almost infinitely more difficult then to comprehend and program a run and develops information technology; we had to work in object (binary code and extremely difficult low level programming methods such as Assembler).

At present the computer is as intelligent as a doorknob and I am skeptical of it ever becoming self aware, but t is possible. The scenario then would be frightening big brother control he mark of the beast etc etc. We would have created a god in our own mental image and it could go out of control and destroy humanity.

We might be able to extend human life to say 11.000 years until our brain becomes overloaded with sensory information and self-destructs but eternal physical life is simply impossibility due to the relentless progress of entropy. This will cause even the heat death of our sun galaxy and universe in the very far future,

Would this self-aware computer have a soul???

Becoming a singularity, I think not, would almighty God allow this?

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