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Moral absolutes , ethics and laws n the afterlife?
Feb 7th, 2008 at 2:12am
 
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I have often wondered if rules, laws moral codes exit in the afterlife or are even needed Does. God just allow us to do anything we like over there? Sort of cosmic heavily free sex with everyone and anyone. Does anything go over there?

I would say yes, why not if we have achieved purity of thought and action how can we possibly do anything to hurt one another in this state of sublime bliss.

Off course due to the fact that all minds interact telepathically and are open to all (I think?) depraved evil  mind have to be kept from the light until they are purified enough to enter the family of God

There is no free will on earth, we are bound by laws ethics, convention, religion the fundamental laws of the universe, ten commandments

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Re: Moral absolutes , ethics and laws n the afterl
Reply #1 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 3:27am
 
There may very well be laws in the afterlife. From this side of things it's pleasant to think that the other side is going to be a blissful release from those things we've deemed hindrances. But who knows what kind of protocols exist over there? Maybe the stakes are higher. Also, consider that the afterlife itself will lead to other states and thus all that would entail in terms of what is needed to learn about those dimensions.

Think of swimming in a swimming pool then the time comes where you translate to an ocean. A swimmer's work is never done.

By the way, did you ever see that Burt Lancaster movie where he was a swimmer who swam through the different pools in his community? That movie was ahead of its time.
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Reply #2 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 8:45am
 
It's interesting to me, Alan, that almost all of my meditations (which allow me to simultaneously fall into a tranquil, physical state) are somehow "magically" devoid of sexual thoughts or feelings. One would think that I would drift into some sort of interesting adventure more often but that doesn't happen. Perhaps it is more inviting if a person is currently not happily partnered, but I have never found that meditation increased such desires at all. On the contrary, it brings effortless peace for me.

I was drawn into an interesting "merging" event during a meditation a few years ago, which seemed very important, but my "partner" and myself were not in bodies which looked like earth bodies. They were blue energy bodies which were anatomically like earth bodies, or at least quite similar. It was a beautiful and very intimate dance, spinning around in weightless bliss among the stars. However, I don't even know who that was. It could have even been some other aspect of myself, as we were so perfectly matched.

I can only imagine that whatever needs we each have can be met "out there" very well. I have not pursued that kind of "partnered exploration" in the past, but I see no harm in it. We are never given more than we can handle. But, yes, intentions are important. If we live from love we may find ourselves in places we are not sure of, but we can have confidence that it is safe to explore. And, even when we do not live from love, there is a lesson in it.

Dreams, of course, are a little more freewheeling. A few more adventures there, but very rare.

I feel that I have been fortunate to find my "soulmate" here. We skipped a good 25 years before reuniting but it is clear that this is the partner meant for me. I will certainly be looking for him out there if I find myself able to do so. What is funny is that he is very concerned that we go to "the same place" together after we die.  I think that's sweet....and kind of horrifying, in the earthy sense of constriction.

I suspect that in the afterlife we have many things to do available to us. Absolute freedom should the the priority, in my opinion.  Although it is a more challenging mental state to sustain, at least here on earth, I think it provides the truest kind of happiness.

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Reply #3 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 9:02am
 
Blink yes absolutily or this would not be heaven

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I suspect that in the afterlife we have many things to do available to us. Absolute freedom should the the priority, in my opinion.  Although it is a more challenging mental state to sustain, at least here on earth, I think it provides the truest kind of happiness.

love, blink 


I do feel, however, that ther eis an energetic analogy of sex and fun in the afterlife. This material life is a shadow or mirrow of the afterlife is it not


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Reply #4 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 12:18pm
 
Hi,

Although we'll apparently be able to perceive and sense things up there,
without the material matter, do you think our afterlife senses will be as keen?
Aren't they just sensing make-believe stuff up there that we create to keep occupied?
So it's all sort of glowy, warm-fuzzy but nothing to contrast or feel like textures, much   temperature contrast etc?  That's one reason we get willing to come back here, to experience contrasting matters.

If that's the case there's going to be alot of stuff I won't even want to do! (like will the wine be chilled, will electricity spark when we pet cats, etc?)

I seem to recall  Smiley that in the afterlife if a couple wants to unite as one, they go visit a higher level, a special place where the divine is even stronger, because they recognize its importance. Ii's not a day to day commonplace event.  Smiley

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Reply #5 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 3:40pm
 
I believe that lust and love are two completely different things. Sure, people try to experience love and oneness by having sex with others, but what do bodies have to do with it, or the non-representative images we have of bodies? By the later I mean the images we carry in our mind about each other, has very little to do with what a body actually is. If you peeled away a person's skin and took a look inside, you'd see that he or she doesn't look anything like the image we hold in our mind. If you look closely at the skin you peeled away, you'd see that it is nothing but a cell culture. Overall, a body is nothing but a bunch of biochemical reactions.

If we want to experience each other completely as spirit beings, we have to move beyond the idea of seeing each other as bodies. We'll be inclined to see each other in such a limited way, if for the sake of our attachment to lust, we don't let go of the aspects of mind that limit us accordingly.

I must add that people shouldn't believe that they have to overcome lust while in the physical. If such a need arises they'll become aware of it. However, I figure they will some day find that body based attachments won't do them any good, when it becomes time for them to go back to being a spirit being in a spirit realm. What meaning could a little bit of physical pleasure have for a spirit who lives according to love completely?
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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2008 at 6:48pm
 
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If we want to experience each other completely as spirit beings, we have to move beyond the idea of seeing each other as bodies. We'll be inclined to see each other in such a limited way, if for the sake of our attachment to lust, we don't let go of the aspects of mind that limit us accordingly.


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During my nde I experienced blissful merging and union of mind and soul that was far more intense than the poor physical way we attempt it on earth. Sex correctly used is the ultimate earthly expression of love by allowing one other a type of shadowy merging by union of our material bodies. As we all know at its very best it is very brief and frustrating at times as one desperately attempts to achieve the impossible true union of being that accurrs only in the afterlife.[/size
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2008 at 4:00am
 
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I don't think we can even compare earthly physical experiences to non psychical experiences involving an afterlife. Sex is something we do with our bodies and even though I enjoy it I can't say that I "NEED" sex.

According to psychic mediums our loved ones are able to see what is going on in our lives which would lead me to wager a guess that those that are passed on occupy the same space as us. Perhaps it is like the movie ghost or like the Matrix in that you have a sort of avatar of yourself which is how your consciousness presents itself. (In which case I choose to look super wicked cool and awesome.)

So let us say you are confined to a metaphysical representation of yourself. It is most likely that a stronger person could overpower you and do things to you in this case. However it is also possible that you can simply leave on a whim or perhaps unwelcome attacks are unable to happen. Either way I doubt there is a number you can call for help (1-800-Godhelpme) I think it is more likely that any unwelcome contact is easily avoided since you can probably poof to another place before anything would happen, and that is even if it is remotely possible. If you are just a floating energy poof the sex would be pretty confusing anyways.... I don't think an energy poof would be able to turn me on either.... maybe two energy poofs can come together and then have a lucid sex fantasy complete with satin sheets? Just don't let your wife find out! Ack! There is another can of worms! Come on baby, it was only till death do us part!!!! Well.. we parted didn't we? Sooo.. now I can have as much energy poof sex as I want!!! woo hoo!!!!
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I don't think we can even compare earthly physical experiences to non psychical experiences involving an afterlife. Sex is something we do with our bodies and even though I enjoy it I can't say that I "NEED" sex.


Of cousre you can compare you can compare the extremes of black void darkness and pure blinding glorious white light, so why not compare earthly sex and the graeter union of souls in the afterlife. There is is not just a sharing of bodies and senses but of complete union of mind, soul, spirit that can be sustained as long as the two beings want it to be.



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So let us say you are confined to a metaphysical representation of yourself. It is most likely that a stronger person could overpower you and do things to you in this case. However it is also possible that you can simply leave on a whim or perhaps unwelcome attacks are unable to happen



You do retain earthly characteristics in the afterlife, but you become an improved version that is able to safely interact with others of your vibratory level . The means of contact are telepathy and what you surmise in impossible over there.

Stronger persons who would want to overpowers you are dark lower beings and would simply be confined elsewhere (Hell


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