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Justin aka asltaomr
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Tis a tricky subject, because time is a tricky subject, we don't fully understand time, especially relative time. Nor do most truly understand what we really are, being involved with physical and with human bodies, we have a strong tendency to view stuff as set things, with bounds and metes, etc.
My sense is that both types of reincarnation happen, though the literal, more Eastern perspective of John Doe reincarnating as Joe Donn, tends to be more rare.
More often, it seems that an immense Light being who exists outside of linear time/space, projects various innate aspects of itself into various time/space cycles, and so all these selves are very connected and part of a larger self, thus they can have memories from these different other selves, because its really One self, and to a large extent these memories and that process is manipulated by the Greater Light being.
The end results aren't really that much different so perhaps the distinctions aren't that important either.
Since we are on a Bruce Moen site, i would point out that he seems to believe in some type of reincarnation, since he mentions bits and pieces here and there, like in the story of Curiosity the probe, or when he was a child having a memory of messing with some other guy's gal, etc.
For me, i believe in some kind of reincarnation because i've had some pretty powerful verifications with others, and the info that they have received as well.
One example. Years ago, i had this very vivid dream of being in a huge Library. At first, i'm looking at it from a detached, observer perspective, but also from the perspective of this man who in the dream i know unequivocally is "me", or that we are aspects connected to the same greater Self. A very wise, oldish looking man hands this man-me/we, a large book.
I open it up, and there is like a 3D movie playing, and as i'm watching i see this rough, trapper/pioneer type trudging through the forest in a snow storm. As i'm watching, i realize that this person is also "me" too, and i start to experience this real life "movie" in a book as well, as still having the two other perspectives. I know the man gets mauled by a bear, but the bear doesn't kill him, but he's there dying.
A Native American healer woman, who is a half breed, finds him shortly after and tries to nurse him back to life. For some odd reason, i connect the singer Tori Amos to her, maybe there was a resemblance somewhat or maybe because i knew consciously that Tori had Native American blood in her, but is more white looking.
Years later, i meet this lady on an astrology site, and we find out that we have a lot in common (spiritually and physically), and that she lives very close to where i use to live when i lived in MA. A little while after talking and becoming friends, her husband seems to die out of the blue, which hit her really hard because they were very close. I tried to be there for her, but honestly it wasn't very easy dealing with such heavy vibes at times, but i felt this underlying but unusually powerful sense of duty or responsibility to her and decide that no matter what, i will be there for her. When i go up to visit some family and friends, we decide to meet up.
We had talked very little about other lives, and when we did it was in the very general sense. Later on, when revisiting MA, we hang out again, and she seemed to be doing a little better. We go out to a bar because someone she knows was playing in a band that night.
As we're sitting there, she looked a lot like Tori Amos for a moment or so, and all of a sudden that dream came flooding back into my head along with a lot of these other impressions of her, us, and our other life influence.
I decide to ask her if she felt like had some deeper connections to Native American culture, and she said yeah she did, and it was strong at one time. I start telling her about this dream that i had had years before, and i started telling her that she was the half breed Native healer who had found me and nursed be back to life, that we had a relationship but that i had hurt her a lot in that life, through my insensitivity and casual manner. I mentioned that she was a very good healer in that life, very attuned to the nature forces and had almost a telepathic like connection with animals in that life.
As i'm telling her this, she starts looking at me more and more strangely, seemed to be getting whiter.
After i finished, she took a few moments and then started telling me that many years ago, her spiritual mentor, an older lady, decided to give her an unusual b-day present. Her mentor knew an older lady, who for years was involved with the A.R.E, and who did other life readings and she was generally known as a pretty accurate sensitive. She stopped doing these readings years ago, but my friends friend thought that she'd might do one for her.
So, she got a reading from this older lady, and the older lady mentioned two particularly strong other life influences. One was when she was a half breed Native American woman who was a healer, and very good at it, very in touch with nature. This was quite early on in the white settler days, so there weren't a lot of half breeds around yet, and because she was half breed, she felt different but she was respected by her tribe because of her healing and pyschic abilities.
She met and fell in love with a white pioneer type, who ended up breaking her heart and she felt a lot of resentment towards him, towards men, and towards white people because of him. The sensitive lady said that she had unfinished business with this man, and that he would come into her now life. The man who in that life, spent much time among both the Natives and the Whites, and also didn't seem to completely fit in either side also though blood wise he wasn't half breed.
After all this was laid out, we just kind of looked at each other, and we both knew deep down that all this was true. For myself, it explained my deep, pervasive sense of responsibility to her, my desire to be there for her no matter what during a very difficult time in her life.
It's odd, but we became friends right before her husband died via an accident. It's like i was meant to be there, like it was all pre set up. A lot of her other friends, seemed to have given up on her, because all she ever wanted to talk about was her grief, her husband, and his death. She became very, very depressed at one point and for awhile was that way.
Me, i don't tend to be the best friend in the world normally, i'm kind of detached and non committal though i do genuinely care about friends, but i tend to hold people at a distance on a personal level. I tend to lose touch fairly easily with people.
There was nothing glamorous about this other life info, it was filled with a lot of pain, remorse, and guilt on my part. It did help me to accept more fully some other life info that i had been struggling with for awhile, but at that point i didn't care about those connections. It just made sense to me my deep feelings of responsibility to this lady and my resolve to be there for her no matter what and though at times i really wanted space from her and all that very heavy energy.
Truly, as the lady had said, we had unfinished stuff between us, and more towards my end, since i, or an aspect of the greater We, had treated her so selfishly and her feelings so casually, and hurt her so much.
In the end, "reincarnation" is all about relationships between people, and about balance and becoming the responsible, loving, and serving Light Being that you were originally to begin with, but masked over.
In a sense, i believe all of "this", this life and other lives, is basically an illusion of the Soul and that our "real" life is in Spirit, and being a fully conscious Co-Creator with Source...but meanwhile, other lives do have their influence on us in our so called present lives, and at times they have quite a strong influence.
I've had other experiences and unlikely match up of info, here and there, and so for me, i just don't doubt it any more. I don't look at it the same way as i use to say 10 years ago, BUT i know that my core, essential essence includes many other selves in many other space/time cycles. There is no real "separation" between me and them, but at the same time there are differences and we all are unique as each snowflake is.
To me, this whole Disc, probe creation, other lives thing, is a remarkably similar microcosm process of what THE Creator did with us, our Spirits, in the beginning.
Like with the Creator, with us, the Whole is greater than the sum of its parts/aspects. Truly it is "as above, so below." We, our Souls and all this, is naught but a reflection of Creator and its original creation, and that whole process. We're One with each other and with the Creator, and yet we are different, self aware, and unique selves. And we've created and then projected other, new and unique aspects of our Self, both in physical and in nonphysical. And in the end, we're all connected, all One.
As far as more traditional, literal reincarnation, like i said, this seems to be much more rare. In my own experience, as far as i know, its only happened once with me. And it involved the trapper dude that i had just talked about.
He reincarnated directly, and not surprisingly their lives were very unusually similar in many respects, even to having the same first and last name and visiting many of the same places, and having a similar wastrel, unloving, and irresponsible pattern involving much materialistic hedonism (sex, gambling, drinking, fighting, etc, not nice guys in the least bit).
Except that the 2nd self, at the end of his life, he sacrificed his life so that others could live. This kept him out the hells of the nonphysical when he passed over, whereas the first one spent some time in one of those hells before directly incarnating his essence.
So, like most things, its not a black and white issue. People have a tendency i've noticed, to turn such things into either--or, and very little inbetween. To put boxes on the life process essentially... Just remember that when you are putting boxes on the life process and on us, you're putting boxes on the Soul, and on the Creator too. These are infinite, they do not fit into any little boxes though i too tend at times to put some here and there.
THE only law there is, the law of energy resonation aka like attracts and begets like, and the reality of freewill. All the rest is totally limitless, and anything goes in a sense.
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