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Feb 1st, 2008 at 7:51am
 
Hi,
During an extreme altered state of consciousness some long years back i observed the wall clock second hand, reversing and advancing over and over again, towards the top of the hour.

Localised time seemed to have been warped in some way by my meditation

The variance in time was directly proportional to my own perception of meditative state. The deeper I went, the more time skewed.

Time effects went away when I focused my mind on non-space warping topics, with one exception, regardless of mental state. That exception was, naturally, when I focused on time itself, rather than space.

If I allowed myself to dwell on time rather than space, I could direct the warping of time to move more slowly or more quickly in my local area, out to about seven feet from my body. The area of effect fell off greatly after that until about eighteen feet away the effects faded to a level that could not be determined with the equipment at hand.

Time seems to have an elastic quality that causes it to catch-up or wait for the rest of local time. In other words, if you bend it, it will snap back into place. The effects of these experiments were temporary.

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Reply #1 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 8:13am
 
That reminds me, Alan, of a meditation I did a few times many years ago. It involved focusing on time. I focused first on the present moment, and then, in gradually larger increments of time, on vast distances in the past or future.

For me, this was an excellent meditation to put all present circumstances in perspective.

Simply to stretch the mind in this way changes present values.

At my workplace we played a joke on my supervisor a couple of weeks ago, and we loved it so much we haven't "stopped the clock" :

We have a clock which has all the numbers arranged backwards.

It actually tells correct time, but you have to read the clock backwards. It is a large, white round clock with black numerals.

We put this above my supervisor's mailbox, where everyone comes in and drops off documents. It gets a laugh. Not only that, we are learning not to place so much value on time, and the sense of time-urgency that people in modern offices are often "trapped" within.

Your experiment sounds fascinating, Alan. I didn't mean to go off track, but, well, I guess I just don't have any "normal" sense of time, and haven't for about 10 years now. I took my watch off long ago.

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Reply #2 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 8:15am
 
I've never had anything quite as spectacular as that Alan, but for sure the speed at which time passes subjectively varies  with meditative states..
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 8:38am
 
Hi Varga,

It was not subjective but actual different  and measurable between clocks located in various locations, near the meditator

Time being elastic snapps back after a brief momemt. All one needs to establish the validity of this phenonemen is to take the time and effort to try it. Anyone can do it i feel.

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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 6:58pm
 
Hi Alan-
Interesting observation. I recall one day idly watching a tear in the elbow of a friend's coat go through perhaps a hundred distortions, each having a slightly different size and shape. My thought was that we are moving through event frames that are generally equivalent, but that lie along different worldlines, hence in parallel universes.

In our own universe, I once ran an experiment in which the task was to guess the length of a moving line. As the motion became faster, there was an increased tendency to guess the line length shorter. Later analysis indicated that we have a threshold of the speed of observation, similar to the speed of light, and as we approach that limit, we get a Lorentz effect, where the line was seen as shorter. It was a pretty good correlation, r=.7 or r=.8 or so.

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Reply #5 - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 1:03am
 
Hi Dave,

I have experienced some sort of a speed barrier while in a lucid dream.  At approaching infinite speed I came across an increasing force fied of some kind, until finally breaking through, to what could have been a parrallel universe as you suggested.

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Reply #6 - Feb 3rd, 2008 at 1:27am
 
I tried that time frame thing the other.I asked to go back to when i was 24 years old.I found I was wearing a top coat and hat,that I had forgoten,and when I asked to go back to when I was 10,and found i was on a horse and cart,that came to mind.than I asked to go back to when I was 5 years old.and saw my brother been rolled over a pork barrol to get the water out of his lungs where he almost drownd in a pond,than i went to when i was 2 years old.Than I asked where I was borne in my last life before this one,I got the name newcastel.But there is one in england,and also one in ontario.so I dont know whitch one,I asked what my last name was,and got the name morrow.George
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Reply #7 - Feb 3rd, 2008 at 1:50am
 
Alan-
Interesting observation about speed barrier.

My take on time is that what we actually measure is the rate at which reality crystallizes into history. As such, we only need three dimensions to fit together all the various kinds of relationships that the world provides us.  However, prior to the formation of historical arrangements, t seems that the "instant of Now" is actually stretched out between the start and the conclusion of everything that is going on - which means a lot of different intervals of process that we refer to as "Now". The "surface of time" seems to be very bumpy and irregular.

If this is correct, then every interaction presents a collection of locally defined oddball dimensions that later reconcile themselves into the three spatial dimensions of experience. That would suggest that as you exceed the rate available on the level at which things turn into history, then you wind up with one of the oddball dimensions.  Or, if you use the Lorentz equation, when you exceed the maximum process rate, you go into imaginary space - and again, a new dimension.

I thnk a conservative expression might be that you generated your own mental black hole. - Again, that reminds me of the CS thing where they redefine their reality. Somewhere at the bottom of this line of thought there's gotta be a profound truth.

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Reply #8 - Feb 3rd, 2008 at 3:08am
 
Dave,

I see the ultimate reality expressed in an infinite progreesions of ever changing nows. Like an unravelled movie reel. I like you thought below.

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instant of Now" is actually stretched out between the start and the conclusion of everything that is going on - which means a lot of different intervals of process that we refer to as "Now". The "surface of time" seems to be very bumpy and irregular.


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Reply #9 - Feb 3rd, 2008 at 3:11am
 
George,

There is also a New Castle in South Africa a very large coal mining area.

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got the name newcastel.But there is one in england,and also one in ontario.so I dont know whitch one,I asked what my last name was,and got the name morrow.George


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