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Why is it told not to touch a deceased person?
Jan 31st, 2008 at 8:37pm
 
I`ve always wondered this question. I was told all thru my life not to "touch" a deceased person be it in a dream or even during burial. Does anyone have an idea why I was told ie. advised of  this?

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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:07pm
 
We have to go back to the time of moses for that question nanner.it is said that god told his people not to touch a dead body,because it is unclean. George
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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:09pm
 
Aaaaaaaaha -  Huh Can you go into depth on that one? Unclean in what way?
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Reply #3 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 10:14pm
 
Nanner.the human body begans to decay as soon as it dies,just like a fish.In the days of old the blood was not drained from the body like it is today.So in a day or so that body would becan to smell in les than a day.George
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:30am
 
That's interesting, I had never heard not to touch a dead body. 

I recently learned how flowers became part of a funeral...flowers were sent (supposedly from what I heard) to cover the smell of the decaying body.

Since we're on this subject...lol  Has anyone ever heard of cutting a lock of your hair to bury with the dead?  I know someone who had done that, and there was a reason, but I can't remember it.
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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 5:14am
 
There is no reason whatsoever for not touching a body of someone who has passed over in a developed country. The embalming process replaces their blood with a dilute solution of formaldehyde, which preserves the body for quite some time. When I lost my wife, over four years ago, I went to see her in her coffin at the funeral directors and gave her a nice kiss - my last goodbye kiss. No problem.
With regard to the lock of hair, well, I didn`t put one in with her but I do have a lock of her hair which the funeral staff kindly cut and set in a small box for me. A lovely final momento.

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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 7:27am
 
Nanna,

Come on supertition supertition

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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 9:33am
 
Alan, I agree with you 100%, however I wanted to know where does it "come from". Why?
It makes sense to me "now" that I read it here, that it may have had something to do with the decaying of the body, or the interesting info on why the flowers..
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 10:42am
 
Greetings,

another angle on this might be that earlier peoples had the same understanding as did the Tibetans, that dieing is not an instantaneous process, but that the subtle bodies leave the physical at different rates, taking days.

With this understanding, anyone who touched the body during this time would bring their own energy field into conflict with the energies that were trying to separate and move up and away. I believe the entire process took almost 31 days or so. National Geographic TV had a program on it a few years ago.

A soul brought up in any culture would know the expectations and probably try to die accordingly. although it took tibetans thirtyish days to accomplish  getting all aspects to the afterlife, currently our improved diet etc could account for our slipping out more easily.

That's a mix of what I recall from the program and what I suppose.   Smiley

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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:03pm
 
Huh...never heard that one.

When John died I had to keep going back into his room and touching him until he was cold...it was like, okay, now he's really really dead, you can take his corneas or whatever now, but he was to be really really dead.

When my mother died my sister brushed her hair (it was still brown and thick at 79) and I cut a lock to keep. 

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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 5:29pm
 


Nanna here is the biblical view.


<< Ezekiel 44:25 >>


New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"They shall not go to a dead person to defile themselves; however, for father, for mother, for son, for daughter, for brother, or for a sister who has not had a husband, they may defile themselves.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
" 'A priest must not make himself unclean by going near a dead body. But a priest may become unclean if the dead person is his father, mother, son, daughter, brother, or unmarried sister.

King James Bible
And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

American Standard Version
And they shall go in to no dead person to defile themselves; but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Bible in Basic English
They are not to come near any dead person so as to become unclean: but for a father or mother or son or daughter or brother or for a sister who has no husband, they may make themselves unclean.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And they shall come near no dead person, lest they be defiled, only their father and mother, and son and daughter, and brother and sister, that hath not had another husband: for whom they may become unclean.

Darby Bible Translation
And they shall come at no dead person to become unclean; but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may become unclean.

English Revised Version
And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
And they shall come near no dead person to defile themselves; but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Webster's Bible Translation
And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

World English Bible
They shall go in to no dead person to defile themselves; but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister who has had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Young's Literal Translation
And unto any dead man they come not for uncleanness, but for father, and for mother, and for son, and for daughter, for brother, for sister who hath not been to a man, they defile themselves.


Leviticus 21:1 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Speak to the priests, the sons of Aaron, and say to them: 'No one shall defile himself for a dead person among his people, (NASB ©1995)
Treasury of Scripture Knowledge

And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

Le 21:1-6 22:4 Mt 8:21,22 Lu 9:59,60 2Co 5:16 1Th 4:13-15



Daughter Dead Defile However Husband Mother Priest Sister Themselves Unclean Uncleanness Unmarried



Daughter Dead Defile However Husband Mother Priest Sister Themselves Unclean Uncleanness Unmarried


Geneva Study Bible
And they shall come near no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may {g} defile themselves.

(g) They may be at their burial which was a defiling.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary



Bible Gateway: Ezekiel Chapter 44 Verse 25 NIV ESV NKJV NLT KJV Message Amplified
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 1:00am
 
I have heard of people who were buried alive.when some of these were exsumed from there graves,they found scraches on the lid of the kasket,and this was onley about 80 years ago.George
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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 3:33am
 
Nanner wrote on Feb 1st, 2008 at 9:33am:
Alan, I agree with you 100%, however I wanted to know where does it "come from". Why?
It makes sense to me "now" that I read it here, that it may have had something to do with the decaying of the body, or the interesting info on why the flowers..
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Nanner

Probably comes from ancient times when there was no knowledge of bacterial infection from decaying bodies.My friend died recently and his wife was holding his hand.She was Chinese and they have a belief not to move for or change anything for 8 hours.So his wife stayed and held his hand for eight hours and then let go.We all honored that..
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Reply #13 - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 3:38am
 
Nanner wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 8:37pm:
I`ve always wondered this question. I was told all thru my life not to "touch" a deceased person be it in a dream or even during burial. Does anyone have an idea why I was told ie. advised of  this?

~Nanner~

Dear Nanner...IT all depends where and what cultural awareness you live in.
You may never have heard of  a beautifull being named  Yogananda  who when died in the 60's his body didn't start to decay for over 6 months.....He was an enlightened soul..There is legal testimony to this fact...
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Reply #14 - Feb 2nd, 2008 at 3:50am
 
devayan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2008 at 3:38am:
Nanner wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 8:37pm:
I`ve always wondered this question. I was told all thru my life not to "touch" a deceased person be it in a dream or even during burial. Does anyone have an idea why I was told ie. advised of  this?

~Nanner~

Dear Nanner...IT all depends where and what cultural awareness you live in.
You may never have heard of  a beautifull being named  Yogananda  who when died in the 60's his body didn't start to decay for over 6 months.....He was an enlightened soul..There is legal testimony to this fact...
Love Devayan



  Hi there D.   I use to believe that about Y myself, found out later that there might have been some sneaky trickery that went on with that whole non decay issue that he and his organization is famous for.   I don't want to go a lot into Y in the more general sense, let's just say that i'm a bit skeptical of him having been fully "enlightened" according to some of his claims.  In any case, he was an interesting guy, and i sense he started off with good intentions and ideals for the most part.  I mostly enjoyed his biography, was one of my first books of that kind.  I'll leave it at that.

   Now, there is another case which may have some more merit to it, because its involving much, much longer periods of time than in Y's case, and not glass cases, possible secret injections, hand shaking, etc.  I say "may" because i can't seem to get any concrete info or sources on it (to tell the truth, haven't looked much). 

  The case if of Saint John of the Cross, apparently his body was in amazing condition hundreds of years after he had died and been buried.   He was a Christian Mystic who lived, i believe, definitely don't quote me, in the 1500's?

  Maybe Don here knowns something about this case?   Was there any independent verification for this claim?
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