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What's the third eye doing during OBEs etc?
Jan 31st, 2008 at 8:32pm
 
Greetings,

When I was OB today (or phasing,) my third eye seemed to be active, I seemed to feel energy pulse out of it several times. In previous years I've only felt pain up there but it's been feeling better lately.   Smiley  Yay!

Is there information from your experience or reading that could tell me what I can expect from it now that it's feeling better?

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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 9:03pm
 
I figure there is no one way that a third eye can become active, so it is hard to say.
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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 10:11pm
 
I can't answer your question Bets, but I hope you'll have an interesting time with your third eye!

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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:13am
 
You mean the spot in the middle of your forehead?  You used to have pain there?  Do you mean like headaches?  I don't get headaches there but I do get migraines. 

Anyway, I don't know much officially about the third eye, but what I think I do know related to it is that when I have any OBE or clairvoyance I do feel that spot "open up".  There's a definite switch, where one moment it was not open and the next moment it is.  For instance when I have a clairvoyant experience I feel that switch, or click as I call it, and then the vision is there in my mind, just-like-physical-eyesight seeing.  It's the same effect while I am having an OBE.  For some reason it definitely feels like a physical sensation inside my brain while it is happening.
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Reply #4 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:46am
 
betson wrote on Jan 31st, 2008 at 8:32pm:
Greetings,

When I was OB today (or phasing,) my third eye seemed to be active, I seemed to feel energy pulse out of it several times. In previous years I've only felt pain up there but it's been feeling better lately.   Smiley  Yay!

Is there information from your experience or reading that could tell me what I can expect from it now that it's feeling better?

Bets



  Hi Bets, i don't know the specific answers to your questions, but i can relate some stuff.   Years ago, having been fascinated by some psychically given info, i found myself a piece of a somewhat largish, indigo colored piece of Azurite, wrapped it partially in copper, and started to wear it.    

   A day or two into wearing it, i started to get an intense head ache type feeling in my 3rd eye area, which lasted about a day or so.   After that initial intense head achy feeling, nada, felt fine from then on. 

  I noticed my dream activity around then heightened, more precog dreams, my subtle senses seemed more clear and sharp in general. 

   I had just met my wife around this time, and i had told her about this odd head ache (i'm not prone to headaches at all) thing and that i attributed it to powerful resonance of this peculiar stone. 

   She laughed at me, and said "yeah, ok magic rocks".    Well..my ego couldn't take it, so i challenged her.   I said, fine, don't believe me, well lay down, i'll put in on your 3rd eye area, and let's see if anything happens.    Within about 20 minutes or so (don't remember specifically) she started to get an intense headache in the 3rd eye area too, which lasted for a couple of hours or so after taking it off.    Hah! So much for "magic rocks" i says with a self satisfied gloating expression (i'm sure).   

     Anyways, since then, i haven't experienced any more ache in that area.  Occasionally during deeper meditation, i'll get some pulsing like feeling which is fairly physical seeming in nature, or sometimes it looks like it opens up in my minds eye, but thankfully no painful aching.

  Perhaps in my case, there were some blockages in that area, or rather it was just atrophied from non use, and in a sense it was like i was pumping it full of steroids all of a sudden (similar to taking certain drups like LSD, etc.), and it was becoming much more active, and in a pretty quick sense.   So, it's like stretching beyond what you are used to.   

  Just a guess, but i don't think you'll have any more overtly painful sensations in that area anymore, seems like you may have balanced it out enough through consistent practice and meditation, and the best thing for the Pineal gland, is imagination and visualization, and deeper meditation.   Sounds like its becoming increasingly active, and so nonphysical perception should become easier and easier for you, particularly of the "higher" planes (faster vibrating dimensions in the mental body primarily).   

  Btw, that food that i've talked about before, the one that Cayce very occasionally recommended-Mummy food, seems to be a "food" for the Pineal gland, and thus seems to help keep it active and open.    I keep meaning to be consistent with making and eating it, but don't.   When i have eaten it for more than a couple of days, i definitely noticed a greater openness in that area of nonphysical perception-relating to the Pineal/3rd eye center.    I think if i have time, i will make a big batch tomorrow.   You have inspired me unwittingly.  Wink
  Meanwhile, more imagination practice and more consistent meditation, for me, would help a lot... but alas, i have tendencies to be a bit lazy and undisciplined.

  As Spooky said, i hope you'll have an interesting time with your 3rd eye. 

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Reply #5 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 5:20am
 
Roll Eyes Probably just a sinus infection......

No seriously, I've been experiencing quite a lot of physical sensation in these regions too in the past few years - ranging from a light 'crampiness to mild headache.

No idea what may be going on, but I've read of research (imagining studies and the like) done recently on long term meditators which involved the Dalai Lama. These have showed up definite physical changes (growth of a certain cell type) in the brain in the region behind the forehead.

Some background:

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
http://www.news.wisc.edu/packages/emotion/6205.html
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Reply #6 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 6:28am
 
Vicky wrote on Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:13am:
You mean the spot in the middle of your forehead?  You used to have pain there?  Do you mean like headaches?  I don't get headaches there but I do get migraines.  


Hi Vicky and vajra - to rid the migraine, I dont know if you`ve heard of this before however find a genuine blue cup, glass, vase, plate anything that is blue glass and hold it up to your eye, look thru it into sunlight and after doing so tell your migrain goodbye.
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Reply #7 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 6:38am
 
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"yeah, ok magic rocks".   


Thats very interesting Justin!
Bets, I went into someinfo for ya.

My books of stones explain what energy each mineral we have here on earth has, Azurite also known as Chessylite, crystals are monoclinic. It will enhance psychic abilities, as well as initiating transformation by cutting through illusions. Azurite releases the fear vibration, allowing true healing to take place and assist in cleansing the mental body. Azurite crystals will also enhance inspiration, creativity, and intuition within the mind. And it says in my book:  Azurite can also be used in the Third Eye Chakra for powerful vision enhancer.

Hmm so with all that going on, yes I certainly believe that a person will get a headache, for the simple fact that the body has to "get used" to this type of newly obtained energy.

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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 7:01am
 
Hi Bets Dear, not a very helpful response from the forum was there?




In the Western Wisdom Teachings

According to Max Heindel's Rosicrucian writings, called Western Wisdom Teachings, there are in the brain two small organs called the pituitary body and the pineal gland. This last gland is also called by medical science as "the atrophied third eye"; however, these teachings describe that none of them are atrophying: the pituitary body and the pineal gland at the present time are neither evolving nor degenerating, but are dormant. It is said that in the far past, when man was in touch with the inner worlds, these organs were his means of ingress thereto, and they will again serve that purpose at a later stage. According to this view, they were connected with the involuntary or sympathetic nervous system and to regain contact with the inner worlds (to reawaken the pituitary body and the pineal gland) it is necessary to establish the connection of the pineal gland and the pituitary body with the cerebrospinal nervous system. It is said that when that is accomplished, man will again possess the faculty of perception in the higher worlds (i.e. clairvoyance), but on a grander scale than it was in the distant past, because it will be in connection with the voluntary nervous system and therefore under the control of his will.


Elsewhere

The third eye is used in many meditation schools and arts, such as in yoga, qigong, many Chinese martial arts, Zen, and in Japanese martial arts such as Karate and Aikido. Martial arts derive mainly from Taoism, but also draw from Zen Buddhism as a philosophy. Aikido is additionally influenced by the monotheistic religion, Oomoto-kyo.

In terms of Kabbalah, the third eye corresponds to the non-emanated sephirah of da'ath (knowledge/awareness). The Da'at is the mystical state of unity of the 10 Sephiroth.


Technique

In Taoism and many traditional Chinese religious sects such as "chan", "third eye training" involves focusing attention on the point between the eyebrows with the eyes closed in various qigong postures. The goal of this training is to allow students to have the ability in tuning into right vibration of the universe and gain solid foundation into more advanced meditation levels. Students who undertake such training often report experiencing feelings of pressure, pulsing, tingling and other sensations between the eyebrows and around the forehead area. However, opening third eye can not depend on this focusing only. This only allows one to tune in to the right vision. Generally, opening the third eye requires strong energy to explode all clogged channels and supplies constant energy to maintain it.

In theory, the third eye, also called the mind's eye, is situated right between the two eyes, and expands up to the middle of the forehead when opened. It is one of the main energy centres of the body located at the sixth chakra (the third eye is in fact a part of the main meridian, the line separating left and right hemispheres of the body).

Some claim that the chakras can be opened via chakra related gemstones, and that to open the third eye requires an amethyst that has been cleaned under flowing water before use

During the 60's, psychologists experimented with LSD and strobe lights to gain an effect which seemed to correlate with third eye opening experiences.

Physical basis: the pineal gland?

Some, including Rick Strassman, have suggested that the third eye is in fact the partially dormant pineal gland, which resides between the two hemispheres of the brain. This concept is supported by the pinealocytes, one type of cells within the pineal gland, having a strong resemblance to the photoreceptors of the eye. Additionally, the pineal gland is said to excrete dimethyltryptamine (DMT)which some think induces dreams, near-death experiences, meditation, or hallucinations. Various types of lower vertebrates, such as reptiles and amphibians, can actually sense light via a third parietal eye—a structure associated with the pineal gland—which serves to regulate their circadian rhythms.

There is evidence that the pineal gland produces the hormone melatonin, which has a role in regulating the body's circadian rhythm to the daily light/dark cycle and also assists with the immune system Because of all the above, the pineal gland has become for some the subject of speculation about its origin as a physical third eye.,

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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 7:59am
 
Hi Bets, I don't know much specifically about the "third eye" except to say that it will spontaneously be "active" during some meditations, at least for me. I don't focus on that area, but it does seem to be the "area" for some healings to occur on occasion. Rare for me. For instance, I had a powerful meditation the other day and I found that I was able to release a lot of negative energy through this area. It was like a big "whoosh" feeling, and this huge amount of "something" flowed upward and out extremely quickly. A big (between the size of a bed and a house, just can't be sure) faceted dark ball took in this energy. I noticed practically invisible flecks of maybe pink, blue and purple tones in this mostly black ball.

Let me just say it was a very "authoritative" ball Smiley in that it was like a magnet for this substance flowing out of me.

Anyway, I am happy to hear that you were pleased to note a lack of pain. Perhaps you have also been healed in some way, and will be able to have new experiences to share with us.

love, blink Smiley

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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 11:01am
 
Thank You, All!

Yes, now I feel relieved by all your information.

Yes, Justin, I had some fig jam earlier that day, come to think of it! Yum! And not just a bit on toast, but spooning it right from the jar!  Cheesy  Embarrassed  Cheesy  I do feel channels toward the third eye activated when I eat that, but did not think of it later.

When all you have said and linked us to has blended in my brain, and if I get any further activity there in the third eye, I'll report on it.
Hey look-- we call ourselves I (I= eye?)  Smiley

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Reply #11 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 11:27am
 
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Very observative - thanks
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Reply #12 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 11:44am
 
Smiley I've just remembered that somebody (probably Dude - I'm really sorry, but I can't quite remember exactly and pardon me if I've got the name wrong) posted a link to a Taoist organisation doing darkness retreats in Thailand a few months ago.

This had a very credible sounding article on the science of consciousness, I think here: http://www.universal-tao.com/dark_room/index.html Go to the .pdf file half way down the page titled 'Science of Consciousness'.

It deals with what's going on in the various glands and so on, and would include a view on the physiology of the phenomenon of the third eye. Not sure how much is based on research...
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Reply #13 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 11:59am
 
Don't forget Frank Kepple's views on this.

Ginny knows him.  Maybe she can explain it more.

I have only read his material.  Very fascinating to say the least.

Link: http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

Maybe I have posted that before...can't remember.

Still, I try to have 'fun' with my 3rd eye.
To see shapes, colors, areas/locations/rooms, and above all FACES.
Really cool stuff however, my 'eye' doesn't work all the time.
It can be frustrating when I want it too.
Then again I am sure it is me not being 'quiet' enough or 'in tune' enough.

Then again there are times when I close my eyes to go to sleep and it is rockin'.  hehe!
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Reply #14 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 12:04pm
 
Old Dood wrote on Feb 1st, 2008 at 11:59am:
Then again there are times when I close my eyes to go to sleep and it is rockin'.  hehe!


Hey Old Dood - ya got my imagination goin there for a second..lol.. Grin  I actually tried to picture your "eye" a`rockin!...lol.. Thanks sweetie for given me a chuckle, it did wonders for me just now. You are truely a bundle of love, aren`t you!
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