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The NDE - Near Death Experience
Jan 31st, 2008 at 4:07pm
 
NDE - Near Death Experience
For thousands of years people of all walks of life have reported and documented the NDE. The NDE itself is a truelly amazing phenomena which could offer some clues in how we would exist if there was no "oblivion" when we die. People's individual experiences differ but they report common themes such as a light in a tunnel, seeing deceased relatives and pets etc.

The skeptics argument with the NDE is that is a product of the dying brain. Is that surely possible when a person who has experienced an NDE has satisfied the medical criteria to be brain dead? How can a person who is brain dead and has seemingly lost every cognitive function recall such a profound experience?

There are two possible explanations:

1) The indvidual has genuinly been to the great beyond

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2) The brain is so keen on living it makes a wonderful, glorious experience to ease the body into death.

My question is why would our brain's go to so much effort when we know death is seconds away?

The one case I have personally studied is that of Pam Reynolds. A simple Internet search on Pam Reynolds will explain all...

The following is taken from a very good site: Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife which I highly recommend to anybody.

Dr. Fenwick, a neuropsychiatrist and the leading authority in Britain concerning NDEs describes the state of the brain during a NDE:

"The brain isn't functioning. It's not there. It's destroyed. It's abnormal. But, yet, it can produce these very clear experiences ... an unconscious state is when the brain ceases to function. For example, if you faint, you fall to the floor, you don't know what's happening and the brain isn't working. The memory systems are particularly sensitive to unconsciousness. So, you won't remember anything. But, yet, after one of these experiences [a NDE], you come out with clear, lucid memories ... This is a real puzzle for science. I have not yet seen any good scientific explanation which can explain that fact."

A skeptical viewpoint on this is maybe it is some part of the brain is still active when your brain dead that doctors who devote their whole studies to the brain are yet to discover. The brain itself is such an amazing organ and it is very true that there are things we could only dream of knowing about the brain.
The fact that so many people experience the NDE might point to the brain giving off a "last hoorah" so to speak to ease our dying moments. Maybe humans have evolved to such an extent that the NDE has been hard programmed into our brain to ease our fear of dying.
At this current moment there is no hard empirical evidence IMO to support these claims. It seems there is more evidence to support the case of life after death then the fact that it is a mere flutter of the dying brain.

The final skeptical argument that is commonly brought up with NDEs is "how come everybody does not experience an NDE when they are near death?"

The possible answers may be:

    * The individual's sub-concious may of blocked the experience
    * They may of genuinly not remembered the experience. I mean they say everybody has at least one dream at night during their sleep but do you always remember them...?


My conclusion on the NDE:

    * How come many accounted NDEs show that a clinically dead person can describe events that were going on in their immediate environment?
    * NDEs are dependant on the person alone
    * Alot of people who have experienced an NDE show no fear of death and often depression as they "did not want to come back"
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Reply #1 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 4:28pm
 
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The brain is so keen on living it makes a wonderful, glorious experience to ease the body into death.

That would mean that the "brain" has an attitude problem Jammy. THE BRAIN wants the experience to be good...I dont believe that, for the simple fact if that was the case then that brain would react the same way in every dangerous situation there is.
Example:
Nanner falling off the rooftop while schingling the roof, nanners eyes go - whooops there it is, nanners brain go`s "naaaw, lets make this a butterfly trip for nanner and make her feel good". It never happens that way though, my brain always goes : "yikes!"

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why would our brain's go to so much effort when we know death is seconds away?
It doesn`t, I believe option 1 is the correct answer.

One things for 100% sure - "AT LEAST WE HAVE ALL HAD AN OBE AT SOME POINT!"


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Reply #2 - Jan 31st, 2008 at 4:49pm
 
I'd say that there are a lot of people who have had NDEs that don't have doubts. Some of the things that are experienced are way beyond what a mind limited to physical existence could create.
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Reply #3 - Feb 1st, 2008 at 7:58am
 
Hi,
Jammy,

I have has a profound nde it is not a delusion of the dying brain and the skeptics suggest,

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