Hi there,

I have a couple ideas you might want to try.  Do you normally try this with your eyes closed?  Try it then with eyes open.  Whenever you get that feeling of lost control, then switch to eyes closed again.  It's good practice to do it both ways anyway, but switching seems to help. 

Another good reason to practice visualizing with your eyes open is because it's easier to learn to "tune out" the things in your visual field.  For instance, if you stare at an object in front of you and mentally block out all else in your peripheral vision, and then switch your concentration of focus to only your peripheral vision, that kind of practice is good for mental control.  If you can then work into your mental field an image you chose to think about, then try blocking out mentally everything in your visual field until you only "see" what's in your mind.  You don't have to actually visualize it, but the knowing it's there is strong enough that you can hold the image there without anything affecting it. 

My other bit of advice was to not practice on something like a banana.  Practice on something you have a strong emotional attachment to.  It could be the image of someone's face, or a memory of a moment in your life, or an image of a place where you really enjoy being.  The point of this is that you will become more attached to the emotion than you will to the visual itself.  By putting your mental strength into holding the visual you are kind of creating a lot of expectations for yourself.  But emotional attachment is so much easier and natural to hold onto, without doing much work. 

Vicky

Hi ladies,

  Thank you form your advices.

Vicky,  you're true about the eye open.   I feel it has for effect to "ground" the visualization... and so, make it more stable.  I already did it in the past, but never I realized the effect until I read your post.  Maybe that's why some people believe it's better to meditate eye half opens.

Laffin'Rain, I know the exercice you talked about.  Bruce's guide really wanted Bruce to do it.  I tried it long time ago, and it's hard.  I don't really know the impact of that kind of exercise.  Maybe Bruce could comments it. 

I think it helps us to be "in" the body.  There is something that comes to my mind.  Sometime I dream that I drive car...  When something odd happen , something that create an emotional response, I leave my body (not like a OBE) and I see a self driving the car (I'm floating behind).  It becomes harder and harder to drive it... and generally, the car and the "self" in it disappear because I lose the connection...

That was my bit of brain storming

pm

Hey Aunty 

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Destination...  It's a good point.  Maybe that having a clear destination would help to remove those fear/emotion that pop me out of the car. 

A friend told me that car in dream often represent our energy body.  The one we use to travel out There.  Maybe it's all about being in the body, whatever what happen. e.i, always be in the moment

PhantasyMan,

PhantasyMan wrote on Jan 6^th, 2008 at 9:33pm:


Sounds like progress to me.  You would think if you were fabricating or fantasizing it all you'd be in complete control.  You might remember about playing along with unexpected events to see where they lead your experience.  Maybe ask the banana why it spins out of control like that.

Bruce