Hello Dear forum,

At dinner, my daughters were telling me about this David Icke Guy. Well it appears all the world leaders are reptilian shift shapers. This includes Hillary and George Bush. , the royal family of England and so on adinfinitum. You guys having had access to internet so much longer than me more than likely know more about this idiot.

I did watch two video of his of a young woman supposedly shift shaping into a lizard. All I saw was a happy young girl baking a cake.

However the final infinite insult came when I looked at a video of my hero Larry King, were he briefly licks his lips, they stop the video this moment with the comment “clearly not human, but a lizard” WHAT  !!! My beloved Larry a “lizard” where is my gun? I just saw Larry with his two beautiful little boys on his show.

Why do people just sit back and let this mindless idiot insult people like the honorable Larry in this appalling way?

I really think the shape-shifting lizard is this David Ike

Please don’t think I take this moron seriously but if some said I was really a lizard I would get very angry, or would  I am logging Off Quickly and going to  find the first mirror to check.

ALAN

  I'm not a fan of Icke and his info (only have read a little overall) and believe its way too fear, celebrity, and drama based, BUT at the same time i do believe there probably are Reptilian E.T.'s and in particular an unfriendly and not so positive race of same. 

  Some might say, well maybe there are friendly and unfriendly Reptilians even within the same race, just like with humans. 

  It's possible, but with the info that i've gotten more directly and pieced together from what i consider more credible sources, it seems that many, many, many other "races" are much more collectively minded that we humans are in this cycle. 

  If so, this would kind of argue against the whole, well some Reptilian E.T.'s are friendly and spiritual and some aren't, human type phenomena/pattern.   There seems to be a much greater conformity/uniformity of vibratory patterns in relation to the Reptilians and to many other E.T. groups, as compared to humans.   

  Some say there were other cycles, long forgotten in both the far past and in the future, wherein humans are much more collectively minded and telepathic as well.   Some say we, all races of Earth all once spoke a common, pure vibrationally based tongue, and its interesting some parallels which seem to relate to this.  In one of Bob Monroe's books, a guide he meets, he later says Ta Nah Sen too (a goodbye phrase from a 100, 000 years ago), and in the Cayce readings when talking about humanity during the last Golden age, mentions certain names like for example, a personality, a spiritual teacher in Ancient Egypt with the name Ra Tah (meaning Sun brought to Earth).   In any case, humanity was probably more consciously telepathic as well in some of those cycles, as well as speaking a universal, tonal based language (i believe based on math and frequency ratios/patterns, eg related to sacred geometry and the like).

  Either way, there is no nothing to fear even if there are not so human friendly Reptilian E.T.'s.  My sense, which is confirmed by Rosiland McKnight's guides, is that we are protected right now and will be until we can hold our own more fully and collectively speaking.   But as they say as well, we eventually must meet what we have attracted via our own collective negativity.   Self meeting self in "others".   The true meaning of that oft misused term, karma.

Alan McDougall wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 10:19am:


Alan...how do YOU know what he says is not the truth?
Why? Because it sounds too 'Out There'?

I have found that there are at least 58 alien races outside of Earth and Reptilians are one of those races.
They are a very old race and came from another Galaxy.
They are a race of beings that the Aliens of Light are doing battle with.
I have read that certain 'Greys' are the Reptilian's clones/slaves. Other words they developed the Greys.

I would not be so quick in my judgment and name calling of someone just because YOU do not believe it.
I do know that the Clintons are higher ranking CFR members and I do not trust that organization one bit.

Here is just one Link to Reptilians: http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html
Here is another: http://www.reptoids.com/

EDIT: Also on the Sumerian Clay Tablets they reference a Reptilian Race or 'Gods' of that time period.
It is worth looking into in my thinking.

EDIT TOO: A site to Sumerian Artifacts and Culture...
Link: http://www.xfacts.com/ancient/
Quite interesting...

I know a two girls here that believe in this guy so strong that they would probably eat children just for him. This person is no differant that any other cult leader with strong charisma. He may well have had a successful life before but you can bet hes making piles of dough off the fear he peddling now. Yes, yes ,yes their all out to get him.... You know the unfortunate thing is that there are so many willing to be led around by the nose by these kind of people. Give them money and support. When will people realize the differance between reality and a poor work of sci-fi.
Joe

I have to agree with AhSo when he said that "they may have been Reptilan before". I have been, and may well be, in a body of different kinds  here and on other planets or on other vibrational levels. Ike would perhaps have been closer to reality if he had said they may have been influenced by a reptilian race. Now the whole eating babies thing.... perhaps influenced children would be better(to say than eating). It is my understanding that Ike is moving back from his earlier reptilian statements and moved more into a more mainstream, hate of the Masons. Its all still preaching hate though. At least he hasen't talked anyone into drinking Kool Aid or Helter Skelter. (yet?)
Joe
Of course if you believe that all those people are Reptilian then you must also know that the moon is made of green cheese.(blue?) Or perhaps when you got a smack as a kid that it hurt your mom or your dad more that it hurt you. OK... There is lots of things that you could believe in, but some things are ment for the weak in the mind and for followers. My opinion only, course I could be speaking with a forked tongue...

apparently Mr Ike's book tells of how the Royal Family's and the Bushs, the Masons, just to name a few, kill and eat babies.(rituals) All a part of the lizard thing. I would say that the best way to fully get the whole picture would be to go to his web site or to read his first book. But I then looked at that and the last thing I would want to do is sell any of his cr-p. Not that all he says is wrong. There are breeding programs when it comes the the royal families. They call them selfs blue bloods. But that dosen't make them lizards.
Joe

  Hi Volu, i don't think he's nuts, just slightly skewed in his perceptions and perhaps trying to make a buck and/or get notoriety.   For every person that thinks he's luny, there are others which support him, buy his books, go to his signings, etc.

  I believe there are negative Reptilian E.T.'s, and i believe they do try to influence humanity in a not so positive way, etc.   I also believe there is a human group similar to the Cabal, etc.  But some things that Icke says, i would say are a little exaggerated, and more so its the emphasis on his writings and message which bothers me, because it is very fear based.    Or rather more so, focusing on the problems too much, and not enough on the solution. 

  Instead of all this writing about negative beings, conspiracy's, etc. why doesn't he go out and teach meditation, teach love by example, start charities, etc. like what real spiritual teachers do?   

  It's the solutions which matter more than the problems.  What we focus on, affects us.   If we focus more actively and consistently on love, positivity and service to others with an awareness of the issues and problems, the more we help to change things.   The more we focus actively and consistently on the problems, the issues, what's wrong, etc. the less we help things energetically.  We can actually strengthen those negative energies by too much imbalanced focus on negativity.   

   So, like one wise dude once said, "be ye wise as serpents, but as gentle as doves".

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Hmmm....you must have some real good 'talents' then? hehe!

Talent does what it can, Genius does what it must.

Edward Bulwer-Lytton
English dramatist, novelist, & politician (1803 - 1873)

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love, blink


Old Dood wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 6:16pm:

It's funny how people will jump to conclusions about things they have never even investigated. Oh, shapshifting reptilians that sounds like BS; why bother even looking at the evidence?

The elite are laughing at us because most people in the world have no idea about the New World Order. That is the way they like it.

Whether you believe there are interdimensional reptilians or not doesn't matter. What matters is that you realize whats going on in your world. It is vital that you know what your government is doing and planning. Globalists are slowing bringing the world into a one world government where they can rule with an iron fist ala Communist Russia. "But this sounds to crazy, it couldn't be true. I trust the government so I won't even look at the facts."

Do you honestly think that David Icke is going around the world telling people this stuff for his own health? David's thoughts: "Ok, today I think I will go out into the world and make myself look like a fool for no reason. I am going to utterly shatter my reputation so I can make a little money off of some books. It doesn't matter that I can get arrested for fraud. This sounds like fun, self-humilation for no reason at all."

It's time to wake up and realize what the powers that be are doing:

Phil Schneider's lecture that got him killed: http://youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c
Best site on the NWO: http://www.illuminati-news.com/
Deep Underground Military Bases: http://www.subversiveelement.com/DulceSchneider.html

Phil Schneider's lecture is the best place to start. This guy was a former geologist that worked for the goverment. He helped excavate many of the governments Deep Undergroud Military Bases. Hmmm, wonder what the government is using those for? Nothing good, I can tell you that!

Before you call Icke an idiot, look at the evidence. Then reach your own conclusions.

Pat

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  I hope you were only temporarily channeling a reptilian consciousness...

  Anyways, i was watching Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind last night, and for some reason i kept thinking of you in relation to Kate Winslet's character.  Except that perhaps you had (or have?) more shy periods or tendencies on average. 

Either way, i thought/felt it was a bit odd because i rarely think of you (or most people here) outside of when i'm reading this site.   

  I hope none of this sounds negative, because i really liked Kate's character and energy in that movie.

This just in: http://projectcamelot.org/norway.html

Not a good 'future' now is it....?

From what I have read, these visitors have no conscience. Showing them love sounds alright, but when they rip your head off it's another story. 

We are dealing with reptilians, I don't think they care about us very much. They just want a race of slaves to do their work.

Nice link Dood, disturbing to say the least.

Pat

  Me too Blink, one of the few movies i liked enough to actually buy.   The huge majority of movies, i like to only see once or twice (once in the movies, then once again via rental).  I think Jim did an excellent job in there as well, it's interesting how both actors played such opposite roles to their own usual roles or actual personalities, but very well. 

  Personally, i'd like to think that the movie deals with things deeper than just memory and personal relationships, there are some deep under current spiritual motifs in it, or at least i see.

Read this page...
Look at the 'Future' part: http://www.afterlife101.com/research2.html

These are Spirit Guides 'talking'.  They do not say they know ALL either.

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Do you honestly think that David Icke is going around the world telling people this stuff for his own health? David's thoughts: "Ok, today I think I will go out into the world and make myself look like a fool for no reason. I am going to utterly shatter my reputation so I can make a little money off of some books. It doesn't matter that I can get arrested for fraud. This sounds like fun, self-humilation for no reason at all."


"Regarding the above, without getting into whether or not David Icke is a fake, there are all kinds of false gurus and such who come up with stuff they can be ridiculed for. For example, Ron Hubbard from Scientology. Why do they do it? Because they aren't worried about what the masses think. They're only worried about what the people who put them on a pedestal think.

Some people get off on controlling and manipulating other people. Such people don't need the entire World to manipulate, just a handfull.  Some people equate people thinking well of them as the same thing as receiving love. Especially if people think especially well of them. So they find a way to get people to put them on a pedestal. Some people do it for the money. Many do so for a combination of these factors.

Some scam artists purposely share information that is hard to believe, because the more their followers make excuses for their ridiculous claims, the more entrapped/brainwashed they become. There is an art, if you want to call it that, to brainwashing people.

Such scam artists will use a person's weaknesses to take advantage of them. For example, a leader of skinheads will look for angry youths to mislead.  People who are disgruntled about the World political and economic situation, could also be ideal candidates. Express some of the viewpoints they want to hear, and they might buy into what you're selling. Especially if you demonize the people they are opposed to."