Because I am a human being, I, too often wondered why there are people like Hitler who are "allowed" to live on this planet. Our American Hitler, George Custer, also was responsible for the deaths of thousands of native born American's.  The thing that upsets me the most about this tragedy is the President of the US and his cabinet agreed to the genocide. Who is the real Beast here---- certainly not just George Custer.  AND the US has the tenacity to name a Federal Park after Custer! 

Every century though out recorded history has it's Hitlers.  It's "allowed" by some higher force: freedom of choice or free will, some say.  However, I firmly believe that some humans are born with certain genetic designs which predetermine how the human brain will perform.  (Just as in those who are born mentally retarded, some so severely pron to destruction that they are kept in lock-up. )  These "beings" are here from our own creation/design and serve a purpose for our lessons here on earth.   I may not agree with this purpose.  You may not agree with this purpose. They do exist in our reality.  This past century we have had Osoma Bin Laden and insane Husane.  We had the emperor of Japan who sent thousands to their deaths at Pearl Harbor. We had an American president who Okayed the Atom bomb to be set of in Japan.  We have leaders in Africa (Rwanda and Brundi) who sent millions to their death because they were Tutsi and not Hutu (and the world did NOTHING to stop THAT genocide).  All these other Hitlers just in the past century.  And what lessons have we humans learned?   Apparently, nothing--- as it still continues, today.  What name have you for a mass murderer who lives here in the US??? Isn't he/she just as responsible as any Hitler?  And Hitler was only the Commander, the voice who ordered the tragedy in Germany & Europe. 

We are all responsible ----- in each lifetime ---- to make a difference.  Those "satins" are put here for our lessons.  What have you learned?  What positive changes have you made? 
Love and Light--- Carol Ann

Justin, Nanner is correct that I do owe you an apologie. Please excuse my reference in regerdes to your name. It was uncalled for. My previous apology to the board stands because it was more related to this exchange not being about Hitler and his actions.
Joe M and TMI...There is a strong possibility that some members of TMI are still connected to the Gov. of the USA. I personally don't believe in nor am I concerned about conspriracy paranoia as related to them but you never know. I guess if someone was found to have abilities beyond what the majority of us have, someone might sell them out. If you could read the minds of everone, without doupt, you would be very valuable to the Gov. I do think TMI is assisting in looking for people who have certan abilities. Yes. I am not so sure that they are doing it for the Gov. I also think that the US Gov. is far more evil than Joe M or TMI. In the limited conversations I have had with Joe M at TMI he has never said that he dosen't still work with the Gov. Only that he now sub-contracts to them. He may well work for someone other than them. Never doupt your guidance. It will rarely let you down. I think he (working) is in some ways.
If my thought that your wish to have your name spelling more like Yeshua was something other than honorable and without an ulterior motive, my apologies for that also. I was under the impression that you were tring to identify yourself as being Yeshua and not just identifying yourself as believing in or in agreement with him. You know, false God syndrome. I am very happy to see that you are not seeing yourself as him in this life, or in past. Right, your not? Right?
As for seeing in others what we are in fact, ourselfs. Right again. I not very tolerant at times and do tend to be a bit of an A. H. when I see something I don't like. Perhaps my ego is the same as yours and thats why the exchanges. I do know that guidance has shaped the exchanges. (Perhaps its that whole red hair thing again.)
The meat thing, well I don't expect you to change your mind and I am not tring to get you or anyone else to change theirs. We have different thoughts and beliefs in regards to what and how both plants and animals feel. My guidance through the All is that plants and animals both are very much alive and have the ability to know just what is going on with them. It is no less of a deal to kill and eat a plant than it is an animal. I also know the value of life sacrifice by both of them. The difference is that you hold one life above the other. In my personal view, that is where some spiritual growth may be necessary to capacitate you to an even higher vibe. My thoughts only. Above and beyond all of that, I still enjoy what you have to say Justin. Your still extremely well versed in many areas. I do enjoy knowing your thoughts and beliefs when you are willing to share them with us. When I ask question of a personal nature I understand you may not be willing to let down this guard you have. No matter. I think we both agree that the time is short to get ready for the long expected and awaited changes.
Don't have doubts about my love for anyone here, including you Justin. Just because we disagree on some things changes nothing. I don't agree with everthing in the Bible for instance, but it dosen't change my love of God.   

Nanner, Sorry for offending your sensitivities.

Recoverer, You are also right in saying that all of us should be allowed to speak our minds. I am also concerned about false Gods, gurus, etc. I am also entitled to have my beliefs about food as is Justin , yourself, or any of us. Just because you believe something does not make it correct or the truth. What I think fits in there also. I was more concerned about the impression given that people who consume meat are on a slower vibrational level than people who consume Veg only. Killing is killing. Meat or Veg. We will truly reach a higher vib. level once we no longer require the consumption of any living thing, plant or animal.
Joe   

   

An assassinated Hitler might have been the worst thing that could happen to the Allied cause, especially if the Wehrmacht were then taken over by more qualified and capable Nazis. You ain`t whistling Dixie Don, after reading up on this subject, sitting in a celler of the WWII Library in Bonn Germany, where there are documents to be seen that will put socks on a goat. I firmly believe that some of these "men" were way "over qualified" Nazi`s whom would have done (if at all possible) much much worse and would have gone about it completely different.

Thank you Berserk2 Thank you so much for pointing that out, as if my brown bambi like eyes would have not seen these docs myself, I believe that my version might be of different outsome. You are right, it could have been much much worse!
Love you guys for all the love,
Nanner

Hawkeye:

First of all, I have no ill feeling towards you. Regarding the vegetarian issue, I've been one for about 25 years, but I don't feel compelled to tell others they should be vegetarian. Who knows? I might be wrong about my conclusions. Each person has to decide for his or her self. I know a lot of loving people who eat meat. Nevertheless, I believe it is fine if somebody feels strongly about the issue, and speaks up for it.

This is a very interesting thread.
I have stayed out of it for a couple of reasons.
One I was at work most of the week and very distracted.  This thread really needed my full attention.
Two...I am just plain too tired when I got home to put forth much effort.
Three...some posts were just too damn long to read.  I am lazy.  I like things more in 'Cliff Notes'

As for Hitler I look at him as an Actor on a World Stage.
In a production that needed Executive Producers to pull it off.
These Executive Producers are nothing more then the Puppet Masters on this planet.
They have been spoken about with many names. However, we really only see/hear shadows of them.
These Puppet Masters are far more 'Evil' (lack of the perfect term) then Hitler ever could be.

You cannot believe everything you read about 'history' either. Question EVERYthing.
For example Timothy McVey's name was brought up as IF he did those bombings.  Did he? I don't know.
I only read and heard that he did...I never saw him do anything.
Point being, propaganda is rampid. On ALL sides It is so infused within our everyday lives now then how can we separate the Truth from the Lies?

I have no doubts that Hitler did some very bad things.  How did he get into position to do these things?
That didn't just happen.  People didn't just 'vote' him into power. Oh...it 'looked' like that but, I know better.
Certain people wanted HIM in power for a Reason.
Now what would be the 'Reason'?  Hmm....
Money?  Sure why not.  What is money? Money is a tool. A tool for what?
POWER! CONTROL!  

This is a very long running 'Play'.  Longer then anything ever ran on Broadway.
It is still going strong today.  

It is just like Pinky and the Brain use to say...
Pinky: "Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
Brain: "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world."

So Don....you want to lay back and Name Call? Typical!

Sorry...I am not in the mood to have a pissing contest with you.

Ignorant? Sure...I am ignorant about a lot of things. Everyone is.

As for history....dig a little deeper.  You might be surprised at what is the 'man behind the curtain'.

By the way...A lot of people 'confess' a lot of things to make other people go away.
Didn't the CIA just get busted for destroying certain video tapes?

Don...answer me this....who did you vote for President in the last two elections?

Thought so...

You want evidence: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1710662559138481080

By the way...I did my homework.  Don't expect me to do yours for you.
If you cannot 'see' what is going down then there is no helping you see anything.

You make your own choices in this life. It is obvious that you will only choose what you want to see.

I can't help you there.

ahh what the hell....Seems you are in need of some real help.
Your search function must not be working on your computer.

Link: http://www.geocities.com/pthomas.geo/federal.html
Link: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Link: http://www.tekproject.com/articles/globalelite.html
Link: http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html
Link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

I never said who you voted for...you are assuming.

You proved my point Don...you are a bully and you are not as 'Enlighten' as you 'think' you are.

I have neither the time or the energy to feed your ego Don...

There is so much proof out there that shows that people like Hitler could not do what he did without the financial backing of very wealthy powerful people.

Like I said...you made a choice.  A choice not to see what is all around us.  Not everything on this planet is 'human' or better put 'earth born' that control what is going on.

I have not set my views in stone.  I am still seeking for I will never say while I am on this Earth that I know all Truth or that I am Enlighten.
That would be a lie and that would be all EGO!

You are nothing more then a bully Don...nothing more to me.  

Oh...here is another IGNORANT ADD ON BY IGNORANT DOOD:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

In other words: Puppet Masters!