Ahso, I love being a NannerAnja now and yes, very observant you are....sometimes one can see that I signoff as Anja (my name spoken like Tanja drop the T) or alias Nannerghost (given to me by my nephews - now you see her, now you don`t type of thing) and Nanner came about as most students had come to identify me as a hard but fair mother filled with equal love for everyone and thus gave me the name Nanner.  Now AhSo, there are some people that have other names for me... like Bit**, or Butthole to name a few. I love em all! ...lol..

C- ya and have a great day! You guys are the greatest!
AhSo`s NannerAnja 

Hi P. I can't really answer your question properly, but my sense is that white light experienced while meditating seems perhaps to signal the portal to higher experience and connectedness. I've no very explainable experience, but if what I read is true differing colours seem to point awareness resting at differing levels which equate more or less to the chakras or realms.

It's probably the experience (not any intellectual idea) that transforms the consciousness, and it seems to do it by overturning the previous usually egotistically based belief systems. For example to experience the thinking mind falling away during meditation (in an absolutely tangible way - like you just can't think, and when you do it feels like it's another person talking from miles away and in slow motion) to be replaced by visual light and a feeling of being loved while having all sort of incredible insights and answers float into consciousness fully formed tends to put rather a dent in one's belief that one is just body and mind, and that all mental processes arise in the brain.

To the point potentially of leaving one emotionally overwhelmed.

There's far more than that that goes on too as a result of this. One may find all sorts of insights, emotional opening and changed perspectives arising in the weeks and months after even a single experience.

That doesn't mean that it's not as Dave says just some sort of physically caused and entirely subjective effect, but it's damn convincing to the effect that (a) we're not quite what we think we are, and (b) there's a lot more than the physical going on ......

Greetings,

@vajra

to pick up the "knower" (d explained it as the awarness that will never cease), I understood it this way, the part of us that will be left, after being enlightened. So awareness (not the "I am" awarness), to link it to the possible state of vibrating, that might be the state of being after leaving behind the earthbound/ egotistical mindset, must have the ability to be linked to the source, we might call it ultimate truth.
To get an idea of it (not a blind desire, but to get a glimpse of this state of being), the awareness then must be like enhanced performance of thinking. What must neither be only logical, nor only emotional, nor even both of them. A state of just "to be" (sry for getting to much into "the void" again).
Not judgemental thinking of course.

@betson

In discussing voids, the absence of light, I think we were somewhere around the same point, a warning.
That is also why I put the thought aside, that less light means nothing at all.
What I did not get into my egghead, is the everlasting refusal of the negative, the opposite of light, voids/darkness (might be scary, but if what to face is scary, to learn from it, there is obviously no problem with it)
Seeing negative aspects is not really like turning away from light (like you just mentioned, the absence of light as a reminder of where the path should not lead), it is more like "how much can one take". In the case of enlightenment, it must be also an aspect to look after, it is not just recognizing what is bad and turn, the overcoming part maybe lies within making the shadows fall (living is pain, dying is pain > the essence lies within overcoming the pain attached to it, as pain is negative, a void, an empty space, it makes sense.
It is more like finding the balance between, I do not think that everlasting joyfulness is what awaits an enlightened spirit, that is of course (in my humble opinion, maybe I mistreat buddhism in that way) more like a moderate state, where the positive and negative merge, to built a state full of continuity.
It is rather not a question of positive and negative, but how to handle them to gain the "right insights".
Sailing on one of the two ships, if it is the positive or negative, cannot be long-lasting at all.
I think the first fraud in human thinking is dividing the world in good and bad, thinking of sworn enemies.
Maybe an inappropriate quote, but isn't it the truth that hurts (at least sometimes)?
Might sound like big words, that are not well reflected, if judgemental thinking was not there at all, don't you think, e.g. killing in the name of a purpose (kings, flags, leaders) would not even be considered?
You might ask yourself why I think that way, killing itself is nothing more than uncontrolled, outbreaking hate, so if having a balanced view between "good" and "bad", it would be hard to consider something like killing. Why? A rethorical question then, but when having the balanced state as the "ideal" of being, an too negative outbreak would just be irrational, against the concept of being less judgemental.

It is a metaphorical matter, after all.
And of course a thought experiment, I mean, how much could it reveal for ourselves, if we just try to get into that kind of thinking, where even our experiences, that are in fact a transcendental part of human nature, are only an initial state?
That was where I was heading this time (I think everyone has recognized it)
Just another stream of thoughts, trying to overcome imbalance here and now.

I question and also doubt, that light has to be a positive turnout, I rather tend to think, like I mentioned before, to be enLIGHTened begins, where positive and negative are no more, that is where (for me) the transcendence in our human-term thinking lies, what I would call harmony. Harmony is obviously not bliss per se.

yours sincerely,

pulsar