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All information, both past, present, and future, exists in the “Universal Mind.” The Universal Mind (or Collective Mind) transcends time and space and with diligent practice, is consciously accessible from the deep state of awareness. The Universal Mind is where information comes from for all accurate predictions and visions, whether auditory, visual, or emotional. It encompasses all that is and all that will be. In truth, it is where our thoughts come from. We only perceive them coming from the brain as we experience physical reality through most of our senses located in the head region (taste, sight, hearing, smell and even touch). The brain is a mere filter for our thoughts. I see it as something similar to the hive mind of the bee or ant but that, which connects all higher beings in one consciousness throughout the universe. I speculate this universal mind is finite consisting of finite albeit highly intelligent life forms throughout the universe and is not the infinite creator God but one of his creations. Cool

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Reply #16 - Dec 5th, 2007 at 12:37pm
 
I have also had to ride through the road of fundamental dogma, before rejecting this nonsense, and really think and meditate about the horrors of an everlasting hell (infinite erternal punishment for a finite transgression in this brief existence on earth) I realizes that I Alan who is not perfect love "would never ever confine even an Hitler" into this eternal torment.

Then how much infinitely less likely would our beloved holy Father God of eternal mercy and LOVE punish a mere mortal in this ultimately awful way ? I truly love God but know that those that don’t know him as I do are "equally loved by him", have equal his mercy and I trust their eternal soul healing in the afterlife to him  I hope I have expressed myself properly. Yes Hitler was cruel but why must God or me be the same to him and bring ouselves down to this psycopaths evil (Hitler). God will not do to Hitler what Hitler did to others.

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THE CAUSE OF SUFFERING

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According to Vedanta, there are only five reasons why humans suffer. The first is not knowing who we are. The second is identifying with our ego or self-image. The third is clinging to that which is transient and unreal. The fourth is recoiling in fear of that which is transient and unreal. And the fifth is the fear of death.

Vedanta also says that the five causes of suffering are all contained in the first cause — not knowing who we are. If we can answer this one basic question, Who am I? we may find the answer to all other related questions like, Where did I come from? What is the meaning and purpose of my life? Where do I go when I die?

Now, if someone were to ask, ‟Who are you?” your response would probably be “Oh, my name is so-and-so. I’m an American, or I am Japanese, or I am the president of this company. All these answers refer to your self-image or to an object outside your self: a name, a place, a circumstance. This process of identifying with your self-image or the objects of your experience is called object referral.

You may also identify with your body and say ‟This is my body. This bag of flesh and bones is who I am.” But then the question is, What is the body, and why call it yours? The body that you call yours, is really the raw material of the universe: recycled earth, water, and air. But so is the tree outside your window. Why call the body yours when you do not call the stars, the moon, or the tree outside your window yours? Of course your body seems nearer to you, but this assumes that you know where the “I am” that you think you are is physically located.

Many people somehow feel that the “I” they call themselves, the skin-encapsulated awareness, is located somewhere in their head. Other people think it’s located somewhere behind the heart or solar plexus. But no scientific experiment has ever found a center of awareness in any one location in space or time.

An interesting insight that comes to us from both Vedic Science and the Jewish Kabbalah is that the center of our awareness is the center of all space and time. It is at once everywhere and nowhere. But let’s assume for a moment that indeed your awareness is located where you are physically sitting. If this universe has infinite dimensions - and physicists assure us that it does - then infinity extends in all directions from where you are.

You are in the center of the universe, but so am I because infinity extends in all directions from where I am. Infinity also extends in all directions from a peasant in China, a dog in Siberia, and a tree in Africa. The truth is, I am here, but I am also everywhere else because here is there from every other point in space. You are there, but you are also everywhere else because there is everywhere, or nowhere specifically.

In other words, location in space is a matter of perception. When we say the moon is near, the sun is far, that’s only true from one vantage point. In reality, there is no up or down, north or south, east or west, here or there. These are only points of reference for our convenience. Everything in the cosmos is non-local, meaning we can’t confine it to here, there, or anywhere. But my eyes tell me this is not the case. I am here, you are there, wherever you are. So maybe we should not trust our senses that much. My eyes tell me that the Earth is flat, but nobody believes that anymore. Sensory experience tells me that the ground I am standing on is stationary, but I know from science that the earth is spinning on its axis and hurtling through outer space at thousands of miles an hour. Sensory experience tells me that the objects of my perception are solid, but that’s not true either. We know they are made up of atoms, which in turn are particles that whirl around huge empty spaces. These are all superstitions that I’ve developed because I’ve learned to trust my senses.

The universe is actually a chaos of energy soup, and we ingest this soup through our five senses, and then convert it into a material reality in our consciousness. Our senses transform massless energy into form and solidity, texture and color, fragrance and taste, sound and vibration. And our interpretation of that energy soup structures our reality and creates our perceptual experience. Most of the time we do this unconsciously as a result of social conditioning. Scientists have called this the hypnosis of social conditioning. I call it the superstition of materialism.

The superstition of materialism relies on sensory experience as the crucial test of reality. In this world-view, reality is what we can see with our eyes, what we can touch with our hands, hear with our ears, smell with our nose, taste with our mouth, or touch with or hands. If energy or information is not available to our senses, we tend to think it isn’t there. And the intellect, with its linguistically structured system of logic, serves to justify this mistaken perception of reality.

Sensory experience is totally illusory; it’s as transient as a fantasy or a dream. Is there really such a thing as the color red? Every color you see is a particular wavelength of light, and the light you can actually detect is a fraction of what exists. How long can you cling to a world of illusion? You may think you are the body that your senses can locate in space and time, but the body is a field of invisible vibrations that has no boundaries in space and time.

So maybe you are not the image you identify with, and maybe you are not the body. Then at least you must be your thoughts and feelings. But who can honestly claim to know where thoughts and feelings come from? Where do thoughts come from, and where do they disappear?
If you can’t claim exclusivity over the objects of your experience, your body, or even your thoughts and feelings, then what can you call your own? And here the knowledge of Vedanta saves us. If we replace the word exclusive with the word inclusive then you are not just these objects, you are not just this body, you are not just these thoughts and feelings. You are all things, you are all bodies, you are all thoughts and feelings. You are a field of all possibilities.

The essential you, your real essence, is a field of awareness that interacts with its own self and then becomes both mind and body. In other words, you are consciousness or spirit, which then conceives, constructs, governs, and becomes the mind and the body. The real you is inseparable from the patterns of intelligence that permeate every fiber of creation.

At the deepest level of existence, you are Being, and you are nowhere and everywhere at the same time. There is no other “you” than the entire cosmos. The cosmic mind creates the physical universe, and the personal mind experiences the physical universe. But in truth, the cosmic mind and the personal mind are both permeated by infinite consciousness. Infinite consciousness is our source, and all manifestation is inherent within it.

Infinite consciousness observing itself creates the notion of observer, or the soul; the process of observation, or the mind; and that which is observed, or the body and the world. The observer and the observed create relationships between themselves; this is space. The movement of these relationships creates events; this is time. But all these are none other than the infinite consciousness itself.

In other words, we are infinite consciousness with a localized point of view. And yet our whole system of thought divides the observer from the observed; it divides the infinite consciousness into a world of objects separated by space and time. The intellect imprisons us in a cage of fictitious images, a suffocating web of space, time, and causation. As a result, we lose touch with the true nature of our reality, which is powerful, boundless, immortal, and free.

We are all prisoners of the intellect. And the intellect’s mistake in one simple sentence is this: It mistakes the image of reality for reality itself. It squeezes the soul into the volume of a body, in the span of a lifetime, and now the spell of mortality is cast. The image of the self overshadows the unbounded Self, and we feel cut off or disconnected from infinite consciousness, our source.

This is the beginning of fear, the onset of suffering, and all the problems of humanity from our minor insecurities to our major catastrophes like war, terrorism, and all other acts of human degradation. To one who is trapped in the prison of the intellect, all indeed is suffering. But the cause of the suffering can and should be averted. Ignorance of our real nature causes the inner self to be obscured. But when ignorance is destroyed, the powerful, unbounded, free nature of the self is revealed.

At first this may sound strange and abstract, but as you bear with this notion and understand it, you realize the most dramatic discovery: The real you is nonmaterial and therefore not subject to the limitations of space, time, matter, and causation. The soul, the spirit, the essential you, is beyond all that. In this very moment, you are surrounded by a pure consciousness. Pure consciousness illuminates and animates your mind and body, and it is powerful, nourishing, invincible, unbounded, and free. Pure consciousness, the eternal spirit, animates everything in existence, which means it is omniscient (all knowing), omnipresent (present in all locations simultaneously), and omnipotent (all powerful).

Now, if you don’t fully comprehend that, don’t worry about it. In the following articles, we will take a closer look at the different expressions of the spirit, the inner self, the source of all that is. As you read these pages, you will get a better understanding of who you really are.

Once you have fully grasped this understanding, your life will be established in joy. Not only will you have the power to accomplish all that you want, but you will have true freedom and grace. This means you will never experience fear, not even the fear of death.

Key points:
• • You are a field of awareness; your essence is pure consciousness, or spirit, which becomes both the mind and the body.
• • The intellect mistakes the image of reality for reality itself, and this image overshadows the real you.
• • When you identify with your real essence, you escape the prison of the intellect, and enter the world of the infinite, unbounded and free
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Reply #18 - Dec 5th, 2007 at 1:58pm
 
Great stuff, Alan. Thanks for continuing with this!

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Why Is There Something And Not Nothing?

Something instead of nothing?

[email][/email]Why is there something instead of nothing? The interesting conclusion of this ultimate puzzle is that, we can be sure of, it that at least something exists. There is a Universe, we see people, and things, and light, and while we may debate what it means, how it came into being, and how it works, we can be sure that there is at least `something'.
Many physists search for the most elementary laws of physics, and believe that a law is more likely to be true, when it is simpler, more elementary. Some think that at some moment, humans will understand how the Universe and everything works, and, even more, that we find out why the Universe is necessarily as it is. (Ridiculous nonsense). I cannot believe that, indeed, I believe humans cannot ever give a satisfactory or final answer to this ultimate of all questions. Why is there something instead of nothing?
With nothing, I mean the un-existence of everything. No people, no earth, no milky way, no universe, no laws of nature, no space, no time a total non-existence of everything. A mind-boggling, brain-, brain-numbing and brain- twisting overwhelming concept, terrifying, frightening, too awful to contemplate and impossible think about, without going insane and totally beyond understanding of any human genius. Making a mathematical model of nothing is actually easy. (Take an empty set, with no operations on it, and nothing else.) Nevertheless, one thing we can be sure of: this nothing is not correct: we do not have “nothing”, but definite and absolutely do indeed have ‘SOMETHING’. This shows that the simplest model is not always the correct one. The universe is almost infinitely complex and to me this points to the simple logic that it is the creation by an infinite, intelligent power. Nothing is the very most basic of all concepts and if there were nothing, there would be no creator, of course.
Some people may argue that the universe was created in the Big Bang ( but whom and what pressed the button of the big bang in the first place, so to speak?) , and that positive matter and positive energy are actually negated by the simultaneous creation of negative matter and negative energy. However, this doesn't answer the other question, where do matter, energy and laws of physics then come from in the first place?
Does this question have an answer? If something exists because it either was a modification of something or else, Something or Somebody else created it, then what caused that to exist? It seems that our logic is unable to deal with the question; indeed, I think the question shows there is a limit to our understanding of things by the very best minds of the human race. There are simply mysteries out there that will never ever be solved by mere mortal man. You see the universe has a strange Goldie locks condition about it, i.e., it cannot be too hot, or too cold etc, etc, erc, but it has to be just absolutely correct, precise and right or life would not have come into existence and we would not be around to contemplate, debate or dialogue on this ultimate enigma. We would not exist. Life hangs on and depends on this knife- edge of harmonies conditions that have to be sustained over countless billions of years, for us to have come into existence and continue to exist. Makes one think, does it not?
Why do we have a Universe? My answer is that God created the Universe. However, then, one can ask, who/what created God? I believe God was not created and this ‘FACT’ IS BEYOND OUR UNDERSTANDING AND MUST BE ACCEPTED ON FAITH. God is far and beyond our understanding, everlasting, without beginning or end, eternal and ever -existing, but was (and is, and will be) always existed. He/she is indeed the very author of all existence. Indeed, God is so mighty, Omni-All that he/she exists, forever, far above our reasoning and above the ultimate reaches of our logic. Something we and all the vain puffed up scientist, philosophers, etc, will just have to accept in time, We will, at the end of the day have to, relent and acknowledge that somewhere out there is a awesome, colossal, mighty, great infinite intelligence that in comparison that we are as a microbe is to a human or perhaps horrors even much further remote, from the Omni-all power we call God. It will indeed be a most humbling experience for us to finally realize and acknowledge, that there are things and mysteries that will; remain forever, absolutely, totally beyond human comprehension understand and reside eternally in the mind of our creator God.
It is a fact the finite can simply never ever comprehend the mind of the infinite; this should be logic to any fool.
God Exists and inescapable fact of logic
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Reply #20 - Dec 5th, 2007 at 3:12pm
 
Hi Strange-
Let's get something for nothing - Imagine a friend sitting beside you with a duck perched on her head. Imagine that on your head there is a chicken. The duck-idea and the chicken-idea are projected compositions that represent nothing. Their nature is void. However, they differ from one another. That difference is valid logically. Thus, from nothing we get a valid statement. That's something. Let's do it again, but better.

Nothingness has two dichotomous aspects. One aspect is so vast that no matter what you stuff into nothingness, it cannot be filled. The vast nothingness resembles a vast plenum, defined only by its inner surface, and without an exterior boundary.

The other aspect of nothingness is so tiny and devoid of properties that it has no inner nature - it is simply a locus to which we can point, but we can never find it. It is thus a manifold that can be pointed to from outside, but there is no limiting internal boundary.

These two aspects of nothingness exist as one, yet they are dichotomous. Hence, to get from one to the other we have to do a twist in whatever place that we wish - emptiness - which leads us to have a real relationship between two pieces of nothing at all. For Paul Dirac, this gave rise to the notion of spinors as the fundamental units of reality. For Penrose, almost a century later, the state is a twistor, essentially a tensor operator on spinors.

Having once started establishing relationships of this sort, they propagate, because it is more probable to combine than to be separate. And, after a while, here we are. With due respect for your obviously advanced awareness of Vedanta, as Ram Das put it, our last awareness is of the Yin and Yang, the ultimate cosmic dichotomy. For the Egyptians this was the resolution of the Dispersive Generic and the Local Particular. For us it's nirvastarka samadhi. (And as far as I can tell, we all have the same experiences in some manner, and it's more of a problem of recognition than of creating some exotic state reserved to the few.)

Recoverer has a problem with this because the individual seems to be lost when we consider the Cosmic Oneness. This is like adding a drop of ink to a bucket of water.  The ink disperses through the water and colors it. The drop has vanished, yet it still exists, and it exists everywhere. There is no Eastern doctrine that I've ever encountered that says that the individual is annihilated by transcendence. What is said is that when we have wholly transcended this level of individual life, we join into a unity, just as we came from it, bringing our awareness and experiences with us. In this sense, we are the eyes and ears of God, the fingers and toes of God's motion and activity.

That doesn't mean that we stay the same. In the state of oneness we realize that what we have done is to project a universe, populated with everyone we know, and lots whom we don't, and then we lived in it. This universe is built out of potentiality, and is made of information in motion, a dynamic system of self-definitions. It has no obdurate material nature - that is the illusion called maya.  By erecting this thing out of emptiness, we are essentially only dreaming - hence the Hindu phrase, "Dreams flitting through the mind of Brahman." At the same time, we share in the creative tendency by which emptiness gives forth Beingness, and the Beingness is real. Thus, each of us is like a  Divine spark, an attitude projected outward, and with it comes the experience of life. Then we die and suck it all back in, like the spider that devours its web. This is also a dynamic, and by it we share our experiences with all the rest of our ultimate nature in the unity we commonly call God.

There is a specific awareness that all of this stuff is our own projection and unreal, this comes with nirvastarka samadhi. At the same time, because it is real to us, it remains real. What ultimately gets lost is the notion of the individual actor as separated eternally from the nature of God. This is replaced by God in the guise of the individual actor. Thus we have a choice, to seize upon individuality as the ultimate, and deny our God-nature, which ultimately sends us into pride and isolation. Or to accept that we are, each of us, God acting in the guise of an individual, and soon to be rejoined to our Oneness, bringing along individualistic recollections, a path that leads to "heaven".

May the God within each of us bless us all.

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Reply #21 - Dec 5th, 2007 at 3:39pm
 
Alan said: Once you have fully grasped this understanding, your life will be established in joy. Not only will you have the power to accomplish all that you want, but you will have true freedom and grace. This means you will never experience fear, not even the fear of death. 

Key points: 
• • You are a field of awareness; your essence is pure consciousness, or spirit, which becomes both the mind and the body. 
• • The intellect mistakes the image of reality for reality itself, and this image overshadows the real you. 
• • When you identify with your real essence, you escape the prison of the intellect, and enter the world of the infinite, unbounded and free
Regards
Alan

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for heavens sake I think you are onto something! good stuff.

I thought about, who hasn't? the edges of the universe, where is the edge of infinity? draw a blank enough times and you get back to basics, of the value of having faith, or indeed the reality and comfort which is perceived in the now moment, not on the edges of infinity that I cannot grasp and so the now moment does bring joy, and this I believe is life abundant, what we all want is a sense of being alive..really alive I mean, where each new day is so very new, so much a wonder to be completely without fear what the day may bring, a grace descends. I did not give it to myself, but I do prepare  a place for it daily. Vigilance I call it, nowdays I love this saying I picked up from Warrior of the Light, "an open oven bakes no bread." lol!

the baking of bread I noticed to my delight continues while my personality with the wagging tongue, sleeps.  Cheesy

with that, I enjoy your posts, much to ponder.

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