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Heartache?
Dec 3rd, 2007 at 1:40pm
 
Greetings All,

Do you have a method of determining what type of pain near a chakra center is the sense of releasing negative energy (positive) and which type is the damming up of holding more negative energy?

I know that emanating PUL doesn't hurt. But in continuing to clear my system of emotional blockages, I do feel negative effects like aches or weaknesses. Maybe every step of our spiritual development should make us feel better --?

I used to think that heartache was a sign that I cared and that I was building more compassion, but I find that kind of pain results also from a sad film or even a sad photo. Am I 'duping' my soul with photos of situations that have no known consequences, like of a wet puppy or a sad child?  Would that chakra (window or motor of the soul) be weakened by exposing it to 'fake' situations? I'm not referring to news photos of negative situations where you can respond with a prayer or wish that war end, etc, but just the random anonymous heart-tuggers.

Thanks in advance  Smiley

Bets

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Re: Heartache?
Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:11pm
 
Hi Bets, I just read something last night which struck me with the truth of it, and so I can share it, this viewpoint. perhaps all of life is just a viewpoint, but it might shed some light for you. first, yes I agree, with me also, there seems to be solid belief systems sitting in one or another chakra, waiting for recognition, and the body physical, does appear to be a mirror of the mind/soul/dna/belief systems/energy systems of thought. former and present thought is energy forming solids in the body

Spirit will guide us, my pov. I have some books in my storage the other day, I reached down and pulled out Inner Life by Charles Leadbeater.
I found this paragraph helpful. I came here today and saw your post. I find this meaningful.
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Quote: pg 153: it is not necessary for every ego to go through every experience, for when you rise to the buddhic level you gain the experience of others, even of those who opposed progress. We shall feel by sympathy. We could withdraw if we did not want to feel another's suffering; but we should "choose" to feel it because we want to help.
On the Buddhic plane we enfold the man in our own consciousness and though he knows nothing of this enfoldment it will to a certain extent lessen his sufferings. In all probability, we have all had most of the experiences of the lower stages of human development. An adept would necessarily wish to remove or relieve suffering but we may easily imagine a case in which he would see that the good which was being produced by the suffering so enormously outweighed the present pain that to interfere would not be kindness but cruelty to the sufferer. He would see the whole, not only the part. His sympathy would be deeper than ours, but he would not express it in action except when action was useful_end quote.
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Personally Bets, from which I try to speak always, I have observed where I would rush in to alleviate perceived suffering; I was told to let them work through it would be best, and also that would apply to the perceived suffering we ourselves observe in our body. my solution to personal aches, pains, negativity releasement is to talk to my body, giving gratitude for its service to me, the little cells respond to love as if they were tiny people.
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this here just my current viewpoint, subject to frequent change by including and comparing other thought systems I come across:

SEVEN (chakras)

physical
astral
causal
akashic records
mental
messianic
buddhaic


And for those students who enjoy eastern thought, we have this:

Seeing matter itself as emptiness produces great wisdom so one does not dwell in birth and death; seeing emptiness as equivalent to matter produces great compassion so one does not dwell in nirvana.

-Yun-feng



another good lean-in for me Bets! love ya!
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Reply #2 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:39pm
 
Betson:

I've found that I can find what causes an energetic block just by asking. I'll be shown a visual image that relates. I've also focussed my attention on a block, and found out the cause. I've also found that if I think of an issue that binds me, I'll sometimes feel energy move around in the area where a related block exists. One time my guidance pumped up the energy real high, so I could see where within my body my blocks are located.

I believe it is fine to look at things that make us feel sad.  It provides us with the opportunity to learn about compassion/empathy.  I believe that the compassion aspect of love is something each of us needs to learn about in our own way.

Regarding the idea that we have to feel good all of the time while we are on the spiritual path, I believe this is false. If we are going to learn to deal with the creative aspect of our being, we need to learn to deal with the various possibilities, until we get to the point where we can use it to create only as we want to create, perhaps according to love? Smiley
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Reply #3 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 2:57pm
 
Hi Bets,   Smiley

Fortunately, the soul is un-dupe-able - we are told and I believe.

There is a difference between sentimentality and compassion, although it doesn't sound like that is really what you are talking about.

The world in many ways is a dark place, crying for light. This ignorance takes many forms that we are constantly exposed to. Sometimes as we aspire, I feel that we get a little light and then it casts some shadows here and there.

Also, when that cry for light/love is answered it does come down and in. PUL intrinsically doesn't 'hurt', but when it enters into earth arena, it may 'contrast' with what is here, or not find a fully available receptacle that is commensurate with the descending power.  I imagine that the resistance caused by blockages in different chakras is representative of that 'contrast' and hence, some kind of associated pain. There are at least a few people here who seem to deal with this phenomenon directly in their professional life so hopefully they will comment.

As heart awakens, it is almost impossible not to become sympathetic to manifestations of ignorance we are surrounded by and become aware of in various ways - and because of that sympathitec awakening we are in essence sharing. In some cases this could be an indication of certain kind of progress. Even in the general atmosphere it is floating around, and you pick it up - it doesn't have to be triggered by a photo or any concrete thing.

Personally Bets, I frequently feel sad when listening to some 'popular' music, or seeing various 'culture' manifestations which may not even be about 'a sad story' etc.. In their own way they may be aspiring on some level, but for me in many respects the energy feels empty, lost, devoid of light, or other qualities I'm searching for in a more comprehensive way. It just feels sad. Am I tuning in on the inner sadness of a constantly recycling ignorance? I don't know. Even if it is 'painful' for a minute, I just try to remind myself that this is why I'm here, and I'd better 'make hay while the sun shines'.

On the other hand, you do hear of saints and masters who have experienced suffering as ecstacy. I guess it depends on what each individual is working in, on and through - how that alters the identification.

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Reply #4 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 3:22pm
 
It's called being human, Bets.... Smiley

These days I am grateful for the wide-ranging emotions that I can enjoy, having been on antidepressants briefly during the past spring; however, disliking the feeling of "flatness" which resulted for me, I subsequently gave them up.

I think it is important to remember that many times sadness is simply holding onto the past or the future. It is our choice whether we want to do that. Certainly, letting it all go can produce a nice, clear feeling.

However, where is the poetry, the song in life, if there are no heartaches along the way, no fierce joys, no subtle tugs of emotion?

love, blink Smiley
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Reply #5 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 6:32pm
 
Hi Bets. This is territory that I suspect most of us must encounter - life unless we are very lucky is often so harsh (even with what's regarded as normal parenting) that for most of us 'growing up' seems to mean emotionally closing (growing?) down to varying degrees.

I think the good old Anglo Saxon (English) 'got to get ahead take no shit be a man be a winner be a ruler of the universe' culture is particularly damaging in this regard - especially when I see children brought up in especially Southern Europe who have a much more child centred approach and cultural values that legitimise the display of emotions. They may of course have their own crosses to bear.

A youth conditioned by being told to grow up, show a bit of discipline, that 'he/she should have punished you you harder', that no manner what you achieve it's not enough and being punished instead of consoled when he has a mishap somehow leaves him/her pretty screwed up.

It's less of an issue for some (not quite sure why, but think it's to do with how much heart you end up having to suppress to live the mask) , but many spend their adulthood frantically suppressing self and propping up the lie.

In some very subtle way the results hijack even your deeper instincts  when you when you come into adulthood and your working life. You end up emotionally constipated and coldly living from behind a mask while the muffled cries of your heart that 'this is not me' (if you are lucky) remain just about audible in the background. (if you are listening at all by now that is)

I'd a lot of material success early in my adult life, but when my health started to fail I took it personally. You could argue that some of my issues were 'medical' (caused for example by dental mercury and low thyroid), but I now know they were just as much energetic and spiritual. I'm only now finding my emotions again.  Wink Sniff!!!

What exactly correlated to what I don't know, but I had everything from back problems requiring surgery to neck pains to chronic indigestion to muscle, head and joint aches (especially fingers and feet) to bad posture  to this painful knot that sat in my solar plexus and felt like being badly scared all the time.

I think life loses no time in slapping you around a bit if you're slow to heed it's prompts.

What I can say is that pretty much all of these issues gradually disappeared as my meditation practice intensified, with spiritual healing, with Buddhist Tonglen exercises to release anger towards certain individuals  - with a major breakthroughs on a Gateway programme and during a healing session which I guess were my first truly overt extra normal experiences.

The Gateway experience I've told of before. I'd been meditating for years, had experienced a lot of benefit and thought I had it fairly well under control but despite working for two days could not turn on the Cinerama. (experience anything visual at the focus levels) I meanwhile was experiencing quite a severe pain in my solar plexus which felt like a blockage.

It all ended with a (non physical) visual visit from an old tomcat who had been a very good childhood friend - lots of tail waving and the like. I reached out to touch him which caused an emotional explosion, melt down and release which has been the start of a continuing opening. 

That's what happened, but the how and why I can't explain. I guess the point I draw from it all is that with persistence and a readiness to trial and error we can sort out all kinds of stuff at all sorts of levels that conventional thought regards as something you are stuck with.

I feel so very lucky - I could get bad news tomorrow but it doesn't matter. Every effort I made was more than matched, and now I know ....
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Reply #6 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 7:32pm
 
Bets is a genius for getting a good topic underway. I noticed her ability right away.

one of the ways she gets a topic going is to introduce several questions at the same time. I notice Bets asked "on a spiritual path shouldn't one be feeling no aches nor pains?"

its already been answered well, that the answer is no, then again, it can be a yes answer.
just depends on circumstance.

it has been noted by energy therapists that all pain is a build up of tension. so to practice releasing tension which to my pov is related directly to thought and emotion can only be a good thing, especially when combined with visualization.

I've recently come across some material stating to actually "expect" various uncomfortable physical sensations when on a spiritual path.

I did not take well to this information and so I don't accept that for myself personally and I do seem to be healthy as a horse and getting more healthy as I go along as long as I keep monitoring physical, mental and emotional constantly. yet there may be legitimate claims for these others who claim they are  experiencing  pain of certain adjustments, what not due to their chosen spiritual path and/or their guides manipulations.
suffering is said of certain mystics to be ecstasy, perhaps it can be seen that way,  but on a practical level, pain can be turned off and looked at differently by those whose pain threshold is very high, and some of us, consider "no pain, no gain" type of thinking.

so I would say your question can be either yes or no on that score. just depends on the particular soul. I had a friend who loved to be conquering pain, it made him feel in control if he could master it..it just bothered me to see him constant battle with it, as of course, all I could do was watch, not help because I was not allowed to be helpful in this case, but I thought it was interesting how people learn to live with pain and even get so used to it, they hardly notice they are in pain.

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Reply #7 - Dec 3rd, 2007 at 7:46pm
 
I've a feeling that significant pain applies mostly to those of us that get 'stuck', that are slow learners....
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                                How to live your life by Alan McDougall
In order to grow through life one must first establish a harmony within oneself, harness all our natural talents, gifts, formal and non-formal education towards the essential goals in life. Chose early that which you love and do the utmost to make that your career and you will not really have to work one day in your life. Establish a hierarchy of preferences and aim for those most realistic and highest on the list. Imagine you have only one year of life left and list the things you would do if this were all the time left for you. Incorporate this into the list, ranking all the events, and look at it. It should give you much food for thought in planning your journey through life. “THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO IN LIFE IS LOVE YOURSELF AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU BE ABLE TO LOVE OTHERS”

Never ever, stop learning, even if you live to be one hundred years of age. Fascination with all things around you makes a rich and wonderful personality. A very high-developed sense of humour is of absolute prime importance in order to overcome the pitfalls of life. You might say, ‘well that’s all right for the young but I am middle aged or older, However no matter what ones age, do the suggested exercise and you will be amazed at the richness and opportunities out there still within your grasp. Life is rich and has so much to offer us all. Be positive in the midst of negativity by using that powerful tool, your sense of humor. Very important although not apparent to many persons is the absolute necessity of having a real soul mate and friend who travel’s the road of life with you. This might not necessarily be you spouse, amazing as this sounds. They are often not our eternal soul mate, strange as this might be to some. They are the ones with which we will share eternity.

Establish and maintain a link to the Divine, each one in their own personal way, be it by meditations, prayer, or contemplation of the glory of existence. Do whatever invigorates you the most. Make life fun, pleasurable, happy, joyful but never depraved. Sensuality is a wonderful gift if used correctly. Use this part of your psyche correctly and to the utmost. “Really, life should be exquisite, fun, pleasurable, enjoyable and glorious. Unhealthy obsessions must be avoided like a plague (religious fanaticism etc).

There are energy vampires, who will drain you of your life energy, leave you exhausted and depressed. Avoid them at all costs where practical. Make your friends are energy invigorators and be one yourself. Again, the key here is ones sense of humor. The mendacious are a pain and do not really make good company but sometimes we can overlook and just laugh at their ridiculous stories.

Of course, life is not always a bed of roses and those dark times will come to us all. Nevertheless, when in the long cold night of darkness of hopelessness and despair, one should always realize that the dawn will always come again and the sun shine warm once again upon ones cheek in the morning of joy. Take it from someone who really knows!
Oh! How important it is to be forgiving. Unforgiveness has no purpose and will fester like a malignant tumor and result in ill health, doing more harm to yourself than to the one you will not forgive. Love each other. However, how does one do this? Love is an action, so do love, even if you don’t feel it. Carry it out by actions. Compassion is a wonderful unique human quality, so enhance this within your being to the utmost degree.

Don’t allow anyone to take away from you that which you know is true to yourself. Honesty is the best policy and sometimes-absolute truth can hurt. Humanity consists mainly of good people, who are being held ransom by a minute evil 0000.1 few. Some religious fanatics say that humanity is intrinsically evil and destined to hell. However, I simply don’t buy into this nonsense.

Wisdom comes with the passing years, but ask children difficult questions and you will be amazed at their insight. Live life like an incandescent light, glowing brightly until you put off this mortal cloak and blink out of existence. In other words, live until your demise. Savor and cherish each glorious moment. Be careful not to say hurtful things to others because once the words have left your lips you can never take them back.

You legacy will become the heritage of those that come after you, and so what you do with your life is not only important to yourself. There is one companion that will be with you every moment of your life and you should love this person as much as you love anything in the whole world. This precious person is none other than you. Use and develop your intuition to a very high degree and it will help you from stumbling on the rocks along the pathways of Life. Have you not been aware when you come into a room and meet a stranger that there is an instant liking or dislike between the two of you? On the other hand, you have felt that a course of action was wrong and the closer you got the more uncomfortable you got with this course of action. These are examples of intuition, listen and adjust to them carefully and you could avoid much pain sorrow and anguish in your life.

The eye is the window to the soul, look into the eyes of a stranger and you will hear your mind saying “beauty, kind, shy, bad, ugly, evil” or remote etc. By just one careful look, one can read much about the character of one you do not know. When alarm bells ring in your mind, please listen to them.

You are truly absolutely 100% unique. There has never been one like you, there is now no one like you, and in all the future eternities, there will never be another just like. Of you fathers half billion sperm cells, only one reached you mother’s egg and this was you. No has ever had your unique genetic D.N.A. code or fingerprint. Are you not, therefore, very special and is it so wrong to love and respect the wonderful creation you are?

Go outside or get away from the noise of the city and in the quiet of early morning listen carefully, you will hear the birds chirping like beautiful electrons in the mind of God. Take in the glory of existence all around and feast your eyes on its beauty. You know, of all the countless trillions of snowflakes, leaves, flowers, and no two are identical and each one is a unique creation of the Divine mind of God. Feel the breeze upon your skin, smell the fragrance of the universe bath in the glory and joy of you existence. Be at peace with yourself and all the rest of the universe. You are a child of the universe, so special and wonderful. Develop the dormant senses beyond the five that are not utilized, and you will merge yourself in the wonder of the cosmic mind.

Take your mind into the place of unimaginable beauty and wonder, go on a journey into places you have never been and go further into the cosmic vastness of the beauty of the universe, with the power of imagination. What is the purpose of life? It is to live it to the full, without hurting others or doing the depraved. Charity is wonderful gift to the soul. Question everything with a sense of anticipation and wonder. Love and respect your mortal body, as it is the vehicle that takes on this journey through mortal life on earth. However, know this your consciousness or life energy is eternal and continues on forever, beyond the last curtain of life on this blessed earth. Planet earth is our beloved mother and we must preserve her, love her and cherish her in all her blue glory. She is a blue blazing diamond glowing brightly in the vastness of the universe. Love all gods’ creatures. Get all your priorities in order. Spouse, companion, family and children first. A balance in life between ones occupation and home life is essential or the psyche becomes unbalanced and depression and anxiety will take hold of you. Take much time to be with the one you know best, namely, yourself.

Life is a school and if you do not pass a test, you will repeat it repeatedly until you have passed it and only then be able to move on. Life made up of countless choices and each choice could ultimately determine and define ones destiny. Refer back to chapter one!

How we maintain good health, I think by developing a powerful sense of humor, much laughter and exposing one to things we find extremely funny. Then having sufficient exercise combined with a balanced died of fish and a combination of as many brightly colored fruit and vegetables as one can afford. Genetic proposition unfortunately plays a factor not always under our control. Red meat should be restricted to the rare occasion. Remember, your body is the temple of your soul and if you pollute it with toxic substances, you will suffer the consequences thereof.

What about pollution of the mind? Yes, one must be very careful about what you allow into the gateways of your mind. As a young boy, I was shown terrible photo that horrified me and gave my young mind the idea that sex was an evil perversion. This horrible image of nearly sixty years ago still haunts me and remains implanted in the basement of my mind. Once we have looked at filth, it is with us all the days of our lives, imbedded deep within the brain.

Look, listen, read and enjoy that which is good and healthy to the mind. Guard all the doors or inputs to your mind; you are the one that permits these images or sounds into your brain. What we allow into our minds in of such prime importance that it cannot be overstated.

I, however, acknowledge that the complexities and realities of life are much more complex than what I have written in my brief essay and thousands of voluminous unreadable books have been written of this subject. Therefore, the above is my humble attempt by it what it may.

By Alan McDougall
Composed 12/7/2007 



   The experience of merging with the light of Jesus and God is like having your body explode in a pleasant way and becoming a million different atoms. Each atom can think its own thoughts and have its own feelings. You feel all at once what it feels like to be everything and everybody.
   What people call "heaven" is really our final true home and destination. It is where we go for "recess" or to be rewarded by Jesus who assesses our progress as a soul, evaluating our lives, and to remember all truths, including our real Christian identity. We stay there for however long best serves our development.
   Heaven is not a place of rest because no one there gets tired. It is a new lease on life.
   Heaven is a place of imagination. Heaven is exactly what our imagination needs it to be.
   In heaven, where all people really love each other, there are no inhibitions, or need for them. Everyone does exactly as they please; which works out well because only the best in each person survives, and good is all anyone ever wants to do. This allows a freedom and happiness that people on earth cannot imagine. Of course, there is no sin or evil in heaven
   People don't go to heaven because of their good deeds, or because they believe this or that, but because they are saved by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's what you are that counts.
   Each soul has a "job" to do, a position to fill in the greater scheme of things. All souls grow and continue to learn in heaven. After death, each soul has to rise as best it can through a hierarchy of heavens and face the increasingly difficult challenges posed by God of each level or dimension of heaven. We continue to progress towards the infinite.
   Things in heaven do not age, don't get dirty, don't wear out, and do not get tired.  Everything is kept pure by God.
   Our deceased pets appear in heaven the way we remember them, only younger and more vital. We can communicate with them telepathically. They also have dwelling places of their own

















HOW TO LIVE A HAPPY LIFE?

1) Throw out nonessential numbers. This includes age, weight and height. Let
the doctors worry about them, that's why you pay them.

2) Keep only cheerful friends. The grouches pull you down.

3) Keep learning. Learn more about the computer, crafts, gardening, birds,
and foreign countries, whatever you find interesting. Never let the brain
idle. "An idle mind is the devil's workshop."
.

4) Enjoy the simple things. When the children are young that is all you can
afford. When the kids are in college that is all you can afford. When you
retire that is all you can afford.

5) Laugh often, long and hard. Laugh until you gasp for breath. Laugh so
much that you can be tracked in the store by the noise.

6) Tears happen. Endure, grieve, and move on. The only person who is with us
our entire lives is ourselves. Be alive while you are alive - do not put out
a mailbox on the highway of death and just wait in residence for your mail
Accept those things that ache with longing in your heart that are beyond your control. .

7) Surround yourself with what you love, with what makes you smile. It may
be family, pets, keepsakes, music, plants, and hobbies, whatever. Your home
is your refuge, your beloved ones.

8) Cherish your health. If it is good, preserve it. If it is unstable,
improve it. If it is beyond what you can improve, make peace
You really tried your best with your son; god knows and loves you with an everlasting love.
Although you don't feel god is close to you now he is closer than ever before in your life
Moreover, sees the deep agony, longing, and separation from your beloved son.

9) Don't take guilt trips you did the very best you could with your son’s life. Go for a hike, go to the mall, and visit
some place you have never been before. Nevertheless, do not go to "guilt country".

10) Tell the people you love that you love them at every opportunity. Life
is not measured in the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that
take our breath away.

You do not need to pray a deep prayer to god, pray softly in
Your mind and he will hear and bless you. God knows how weary your soul is from sorrow deep.

THIS IS THE REAL YOU MY DEAR

Take a bit of time and say these words each day and just how remarkably better you feel

I love god. I love myself. I love my parents. I love my partner. I love my children.
I love my siblings. I love my grand parents. I admire and have affection for my colleagues and peers.

First thing in the morning put on happy music and say the words below aloud:

And see how more positive you become.

Each morning I am awake, aware and alert, quick, zippy, I am full of :- happiness, laughter, amusement, enjoyment, pleasure, delight,, joy, ecstasy, thrill, rapture, bliss, elation, jubilation, euphoria, exultation, excitement, wonderful  anticipation, expectation, optimism, cheerfulness, exuberance, enthusiasm, passion, zeal, fervor, beauty , delight. glee, joy, heavenly, divine, celestial, wonderful, fantastic,

I am striking, I am gorgeous, I am stunning, and I am handsome. I am erotic. I am stunning, I a glad I am peaceful. I am beautiful. I am dazzling. I am attractive. I am alluring. I am lovely. I am smart. I am sweet. I am remarkable. I am significant. I am humorous. I am amusing. I am entertaining. I am interesting. I am engaging. I am knowledgeable. I am good. I am honest. I am frank. I am sincere. I am genuine. I am authentic. I am truthful. I am well. I am glowing.   I am fascinating. I am intriguing. I am music. I am harmonious. I am melodious. I am energetic. I am full of life. I am love. I am irresistible. I am alluring. I am charming. I am eloquent. I am articulate. I am lucid. I am cogent. I am desire. I am sparkling. I am radiant. I am funny. I am excited. I am free. I am liberated. I am successful. I am flourishing. I am prosperous. I am rational. I am lucky. I am intuitive, I am discriminating, and I am sharp, I am harmonious, I am victorious.


I am loved. I am special. I am blessed. I am proud of myself. I am forgiving. I love myself. I love others. I am forgetting past hurts. I am living in the moment. I am savoring each moment. I am compassionate. I am empathic. I am sensible. I am sane. I am wise.
I am secure. I am sheltered in the arms of God. I am contented. I am secure. I am at peace. I am relaxed. I am capable. I am tranquil. I am faithful. I am gentle. I am kind. I am honest. I am unique. I am reasonable. I am healthy.

I am able to achieve anything I put my mind to. I have a clear objective in life. I will do what I set out to do. I plan carefully. I set realistic priorities. I have purpose.
I am eternal, I am spiritual,, I am intuitive, I am precise, I am principled, I am moral, I am intelligent, I am incisive, I am perceptive, I am discerning, I am observant, I am climax,

At night read a quite book, have a glass of warm milk and then meditate or pray for fifteen minutes until you mind becomes less active. Sleep the sleep of contended peace and beauty until you wake happy in a new morning of purpose.

Words are living things that can kill destroy or give life. Choose the words of life, above.

Heaven is like this
   The experience of merging with the light of Jesus and God is like having your body explode in a pleasant way and becoming a million different atoms. Each atom can think its own thoughts and have its own feelings. You feel all at once what it feels like to be everything and everybody.
   What people call "heaven" is really our final true home and destination. It is where we go for "recess" or to be rewarded by Jesus who assesses our progress as a soul, evaluating our lives, and to remember all truths, including our real Christian identity. We stay there for however long best serves our development.
   Heaven is not a place of rest because no one there gets tired. It is a new lease on life.
   Heaven is a place of imagination. Heaven is exactly what our imagination needs it to be.
   In heaven, where all people really love each other, there are no inhibitions, or need for them. Everyone does exactly as they please; which works out well because only the best in each person survives, and good is all anyone ever wants to do. This allows a freedom and happiness that people on earth cannot imagine. Of course, there is no sin or evil in heaven
   People don't go to heaven because of their good deeds, or because they believe this or that, but because they are saved by the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's what you are that counts.
   Each soul has a "job" to do, a position to fill in the greater scheme of things. All souls grow and continue to learn in heaven. After death, each soul has to rise as best it can through a hierarchy of heavens and face the increasingly difficult challenges posed by God of each level or dimension of heaven. We continue to progress towards the infinite.
   Things in heaven do not age, don't get dirty, don't wear out, and do not get tired.  Everything is kept pure by God.
   Our deceased pets appear in heaven the way we remember them, only younger and more vital. We can communicate with them telepathically. They also have dwelling places of their own
Alan McDougall

I hope these words of encouragement help

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Reply #9 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 2:18pm
 
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Bets

I've been pondering some material I have from Abraham-Hicks. I'm not on a soapbox for it-or anything else- but it is worth pondering.

Abraham advocates us connecting to out higher selves.  In that context, there is something on this recording that I don't quite get. Abraham says out feelings/emotions are communications from our higher selves. So sadness would be a message that that is something that you do not want to create. I guess then it wouldn't matter whether it was something "real" or "fictional," it is just something you don't want to be creating.

All right now if I combine it with something from a lot of the TMI tapes, either put it in you energy conversion box or let it go.

Now this doesn't address the cultural issue of ...when do I help (or get help) and when do I let others figure it out for themselves, but I think it is an important point.

This is a process, not an act.

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Reply #10 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 4:26pm
 
Lucy said: Now this doesn't address the cultural issue of ...when do I help (or get help) and when do I let others figure it out for themselves, but I think it is an important point. 

This is a process, not an act.
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Grin I like the way u said this is a process, not an act..I think you're right! If we look closely at what you just wrote, I think you can find the answer right within your question.
in other words, your simple expression helped me; if it helped me, it may help the cultural issue you speak of as well, in ways, u cannot know your effect upon the culture, all the parts of that culture just while in C1.
so I see in the questioning mind, a movement, as you said, this is a process, you are saying that You yourself are a process. that is how you answered yourself.

I do this all the time, lol, Lucy, every written poetry? drag out some old poetry you did years ago, one tends to be amazed at what we knew then, but somehow didn't understand where the knowledge was coming from.

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Reply #11 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 5:58pm
 
Greetings,

Your responses are all very helpful!  Everything suggested is going to be an improvement over what I have been doing, so thank you very much! It will defintely be a prcess to get all these suggestions active in my mind!

I don't know, Lucy, if I'm in touch enough with higher self to be getting my emotions from there. I sort of thought I might be tormenting my chakras with unproductive thoughts and they get aggitated and spew out some negative emotions.  Does Abraham-Hicks say  how  to tell if our higher selves are guiding us through our emotions?  Now I'll have to do an assessment of what I don't want to be creating---goodness, that could take awhile !  Cheesy

Many thanks, Bets
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Reply #12 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 6:34pm
 
I guess, Bets, that sometimes I also can remind myself that if a thought is really true, I mean really really true, it will bring peace.

Peace and strength.

It's guaranteed.

Most other thoughts are not as productive. But those thoughts are sometimes the route by which I make it to the truth eventually.

So, because of this, I think we can sometimes judge our own thoughts on certain merits alone.

I guess that's why love is always the answer, whether it be for self or for others.

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Reply #13 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 6:35pm
 
I was having that worry myself the other day when I watched the movie the Secret.

we are always creating our future apparently, either by default program (subconscious) or by conscious intention setting.

I'm not really a worry wart, but I'm like you Bets, always wondering if my house is clean enough.  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Dec 6th, 2007 at 6:59pm
 
Ladies! It seems we are indeed process in every way imaginable - there's not a single aspect of so called (conventional) self that's not changing all the time, that is not the result of this huge network of cause and consequence. Body, thinking mind, the reality we exist in, everything. It's only at the very highest level of (God) consciousness or the absolute that there's stability.

Put another way - the perception that we exist as an independent entity is only that, we in practice exist only as some sort of nexus in the midst of this great sea of change. Like a wave crossing it ocean - it's not a 'thing' because the water does not travel with it.

Buddhist teaching on interdependence and emptiness deal with this view for anybody that fancies a Google. Expressed most sublimely in the Heart Sutra. 'Form is emptiness, emptiness is form....'

On unhappiness. There are indeed many things we can do (of an inappropriate and egotistical nature) that will make us unhappy - the agitated, obsessive, fearful, intensive thinking sort of unhappiness, and the negative emotions it creates.

But spiritual progress is not necessarily pleasurable either, it's in fact usually not.

Opening creates a very distinct and often very intense emotional rawness. We perhaps become aware of realities that we didn't previously perceive that with our new found empathy now bother us, or realise that things we do or did are/were wrong, or suffer the existential angst that follows from progressive death of the ego  - as beliefs that prop the sense of 'me' fall away we at some level  mourn our own death.

The light
Creeps in
This multicoloured dawn
Brings joy
With pain
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