Nope haven't seen it.  I've heard similar theories though, and have thought a lot about the deeper aspects of sex.   I've come to believe that the question of sex, particularly relating to spirituality is a deeper and more complex issue than some or many seem to give it credit for. 

  There seem to be layers to sex, and different kinds of sex.   Real sex to me, is 'merging' at a consciousness level, and thus can be and is a very spiritual process and experience if one doesn't become overly attached and focussed on one particular person or the 1st/2nd chakra animalistic lust energies.   Other kinds of sex is more so just related to over active, imbalanced, and non spiritually directed 1st and 2nd energy center energies.  The latter type of sex is much, much more common in this world than the former, which is probably why so many folks have so much regular or darker red emanations in their auras.

  But does sex lead to liberation in a direct sense?  Personally i don't believe so, i believe the only thing which leads to liberation is constant practice of and being PUL in relation to others and self, and it seems that some form of regular meditation or going within seems pretty important and helpful in the whole process.

  In general, i think physical sex is both overly focussed  on (over rated) and yet often at the same time overly repressed in certain cultures (which often leads to over, OCD focus on it ironically) as well.  At the same time, i believe the energy related to sexual energy is a very powerful and raw energy, which if channeled deliberately and constructively can really help to expand, vitalize, and strengthen one's total energy if one is already trying to live in and practice a more PUL and meditative type lifestyle to begin with--hence celibacy in such cases can be a very powerful tool and practice if the right intents, motivations, etc are there and there is an overall balancedness to the person and the life in general.  Or certain kinds of tantric practice can be very powerful along those lines (if its not primarily about materialistic, sensual hedonism).  In any case, isn't this a more "Off Topic" type thread?

only when you die will sex not matter.  and even then you can have the "spiritual sex" .. not physical. 

to say denying yourself sex makes you spiritual is like saying denying yourself food or water makes you spiritual.  it's simply part of being a human.

We'd quite a long series of posts on this topic a while ago, it might be worth having a look.

The bottom line is possibly that sex like most things can depending on how we approach it (our view or level of consciousness) be a lot of different things. It's very hard to handle precisely because it involves the same or similar energies as higher levels of consciousness and results in such powerful and instinctive urges.

Pursued at the animalistic level purely for personal pleasure, and from an egotistical and selfish mindset it can be perverted by delusion or obsession the same as can the urges for money, power and the like. Not to mention become a driver of exploitation.

A bit higher and it's ultimately a very beautiful and loving exchange between responsible beings, although potentially tinted by selfishness except at high levels of realisation.

Even higher and the energy released can be diverted power access to higher consciousness.

The constipated attitude our society tends to hold about sex has it roots in the lower level - in the need to control what can be an enormously powerful drive that doesn't always express in healthy ways.

Most that mess with tantric methods for 'spiritual' reasons seem to struggle to rise above the lower levels. It seems like tantric methods are only formally taught in Buddhism at very highest levels of spiritual achievement.

The bad news is probably that much like drugs etc it's no magical gateway to spirituality. It can lift us to higher states, but to be used successfully in that way we probably first have to by other means have reached a level of consciousness where we can transcend the selfish urges.....

Hi When you think about the millions of people in the world,all individle men are attracted to a woman of there choice but no same man is attracted to no same woman,this happens but rarely,i also beleive its to do with past lives and the fact that we have all at different times known each other in past lives and thats where the different attractions are for human beings.

I have a really close male friend and we call each other soul mates and we love each other so much and the other night we were talking together and we almost ended up in bed together.but we both stopped and we both realised that if this happened between us,that would be the end of our relationship,we dont know why but we decided we just want to carry on being soulmates because we know thats what we were meant to be on this physical plain and we told each other that we will be friends till we die and after in the spirit world,our love for each other is truly spiritual love.

Sex is not always the way to spiritual,there are many other kinds of love that can be shown between two human beings.

Love and God bless   Love juditha

As a proponent of spiritual tantrism, I tend to agree that sexuality is an obvious and available path to awakening to spirituality. It's hardly the only path, nor is it more than an introductory approach. And, as Juditha pointed out, it's more than just an activity, but tends to color our entire relationship with our partner as material in substantial part. This can be good, as in the case of people truly and deeply in love, or it can be a disaster, as in the case of cold-blooded f*cking.

I'd be inclined to think twice if someone told me that this was the only way to "meat my Maker".

dave

If we're trying to evolve to the point where we abide as a spirit being who doesn't have anything to do with a physical body, how can body based sex continue to be a part of the equation?

The fact of how people often get caught up in the issue of sex, shows how much of a binding/limiting effect it can have.

Because we identify with our bodies, we try to share love and obtain union with others through sexual activity.  Since it is our spirit being which allows us to be aware and experience love and oneness, do our bodies actually play a role that is significant?

Lust is an energy that doesn't have anything to do with love. This is why people who allow themselves to be overly influenced by it, end up becoming child molestors, rapists, porn addicts, etc. Is it just a coincidence that sex is a lower chakra energy?

I doubt that beings of love and light miss sex. Those who were bound by it at one time, are probably quite happy that they are now free of it.

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This may just be my personal take on it, but the way I see it, it would seem as though sex is about both physical and spiritual pleasure. Lust plays a key role in making it work, but operating on lust alone will cause someone to either get involved with people they shouldn't be involved with or end up committing cold blooded acts and both of those are bad outcomes.

And to the_seeker: I think you're right. I've been particularly fascinated with the way that we don't control our what we are attracted to and it just sort of happens and had the theory that it had something to do with a past life. I have personally struggled with different preferrences that I was in denial of, then accepting but secretive, and then finally open about it. Let's just say I'm not attracted to the type of women people usually see on TV. I'd rather not elaborate on that. I also have an openly gay cousin and it seems that as time goes on, peoples sexuality has become more diverse. a hundred years ago, everyone's sexuality seemed to be pretty traditional and everyone was attracted to what they would normally be attracted to most of the time. I can also recall reading one of Bruce's descriptions on Focus 27. He said something about being able to appear in any form you want. This then added similar questions about whether there are lovers who appear as each others ideal.
Peace
David